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#1388253 - 03/04/10 05:34 PM I just purchased a Yamaha P155, a couple of questions..
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As soon as I start playing the Grand Piano sound, I notice that the sound isn't that crispy; it sounds like a recording from a 1960's piano recording of some sort. Is it just me or I am too used to an acoustic? I really like the Guitar voice though, it's very clear. Will headphones make the sound better?
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#1388261 - 03/04/10 05:49 PM Re: I just purchased a Yamaha P155, a couple of questions.. [Re: Retzel]
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Originally Posted By: Retzel
Will headphones make the sound better?

If you use good ones, yes, definitely.
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#1388265 - 03/04/10 05:51 PM Re: I just purchased a Yamaha P155, a couple of questions.. [Re: Retzel]
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Originally Posted By: Retzel
As soon as I start playing the Grand Piano sound, I notice that the sound isn't that crispy; it sounds like a recording from a 1960's piano recording of some sort. Is it just me or I am too used to an acoustic? I really like the Guitar voice though, it's very clear.

I'm guessing you have one of the effects on (like reverb), or you accidentally pushed two buttons at once and you have dual voices, maybe the second voice is an epiano or choir. Unless you've stored custom startup parameters, you should be able to turn it off and then back on and get to a "normal" state, which should give you a pretty vanilla piano voice.

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Will headphones make the sound better?

Yes, much better. The P155 doesn't have very good speakers so you'll probably want to either use headphones or run it through your stereo system, or buy some kind of separate speaker system.
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#1388308 - 03/04/10 07:18 PM Re: I just purchased a Yamaha P155, a couple of questions.. [Re: Retzel]
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I have a P155 also. Yes if you have very good headphones the sound is better. The speakers are just "good enough" for practice volume levels

But the very best you can hope for with any digital piano is for it to sound like a good recording of an acoustic piano. Speakers are the weak link of any digital piano. BTW, they made some good recordings in the 1960s.

When I first got the P155 I thought it lacked dynamic range but that turned out to be because I was afraid to really pound on the keys. I takes a surprising (to me at least) amount of force to reach ff.

The P155 speakers face away from you, or I should I say face in the same direction you are facing when you play the piano. I think the intent is that you place the P155 about 6" or so from a wall and let the wall reflect the sound back at you. So if you are not facing a wall you may be missing some of the sound.

Guitar sounds OK at first but there is much you can't do, up down strum patterns, note bending and so on. So the guitar sound comes out pretty boring.

One thing that really fooled me, the keyboard "clunk" sounds on the harpsichord. I thought the sound was coming from the P155 keys. I took my headphones off to check.


Edited by ChrisA (03/04/10 07:20 PM)

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#1388369 - 03/04/10 08:43 PM Re: I just purchased a Yamaha P155, a couple of questions.. [Re: ChrisA]
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Oh I do notice that it actually sounds good from far away.. I recorded something, and I went upstairs, and it sounds a lot better. Maybe it's the location of the speakers, I'm not used to hearing mid range notes on left and rightmost part of the piano.
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#1388386 - 03/04/10 09:06 PM Re: I just purchased a Yamaha P155, a couple of questions.. [Re: Retzel]
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Originally Posted By: Retzel
Oh I do notice that it actually sounds good from far away.. I recorded something, and I went upstairs, and it sounds a lot better. Maybe it's the location of the speakers, I'm not used to hearing mid range notes on left and rightmost part of the piano.


I notice the same effect, the P155 is very convincing if you are in another room

That is the difference between a digital and acoustic piano.. the sound on a DP comes from speakers. On the AP there is a huge soundboard, The physical size of the source of the sound is different. You can clearly hear this when you are close but when you are far away both pianos become closer to "point sources"

This is why I said the best you can hope for in a DP is that it sounds like a recording of an AP because the recording is played through speakers.


Edited by ChrisA (03/04/10 09:07 PM)

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#1390850 - 03/07/10 11:26 PM Re: I just purchased a Yamaha P155, a couple of questions.. [Re: ChrisA]
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Hey guys, does anyone know the names of the 50 "songs" pre built?
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#1390854 - 03/07/10 11:39 PM Re: I just purchased a Yamaha P155, a couple of questions.. [Re: Retzel]
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See user manual page 60.

Almost all classical in rough order of date written starting with Bach "invention 1" as #1 to Debussy "cakewalk" at #50


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#1390856 - 03/07/10 11:42 PM Re: I just purchased a Yamaha P155, a couple of questions.. [Re: ChrisA]
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?? That is strange, mine goes only up to page 59. We're reading the same manual, right? My manual is greenish/blueish colour, and comes with 4 languages.
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#1390859 - 03/07/10 11:46 PM Re: I just purchased a Yamaha P155, a couple of questions.. [Re: Retzel]
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Never mind, I found it. Strange manual, page 60 is a couple of hundred pages from 59, haha.
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#1390865 - 03/07/10 11:51 PM Re: I just purchased a Yamaha P155, a couple of questions.. [Re: Retzel]
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Pg 59 in mine is the last page of the index. After that it continues with many data tables for song list and MIDI . Sounds like you have missing pages Look at the TOC on page 7.

You can download a PDF from Yamaha. Here's what's in mine

No. Title Composer
1 Invention No. 1 J.S.Bach
2 Invention No. 8 J.S.Bach
3 Gavotte J.S.Bach
4 Prelude (Wohltemperierte Klavier I No.1) J.S.Bach
5 Menuett G dur BWV.Anh.114 J.S.Bach
6 Le Coucou L-C.Daquin
7 Piano Sonate No.15 K.545 1st mov. W.A.Mozart
8 Turkish March W.A.Mozart
9 Menuett G dur W.A.Mozart
10 Little Serenade J.Haydn
11 Perpetuum mobile C.M.v.Weber
12 Ecossaise L.v.Beethoven
13 Für Elise L.v.Beethoven
14 Marcia alla Turca L.v.Beethoven
15 Piano Sonate op.13 “Pathétique” 2nd mov. L.v.Beethoven
16 Piano Sonate op.27-2 “Mondschein” 1st mov. L.v.Beethoven
17 Piano Sonate op.49-2 1st mov. L.v.Beethoven
18 Impromptu op.90-2 F.P.Schubert
19 Moments Musicaux op.94-3 F.P.Schubert
20 Frühlingslied op.62-2 J.L.F.Mendelssohn
21 Jägerlied op.19b-3 J.L.F.Mendelssohn
22 Fantaisie-Impromptu F.F.Chopin
23 Prelude op.28-15 “Raindrop” F.F.Chopin
24 Etude op.10-5 “Black keys” F.F.Chopin
25 Etude op.10-3 “Chanson de l’adieu” F.F.Chopin
26 Etude op.10-12 “Revolutionary” F.F.Chopin
27 Valse op.64-1 “Petit chien” F.F.Chopin
28 Valse op.64-2 F.F.Chopin
29 Valse op.69-1 “L’adieu” F.F.Chopin
30 Nocturne op.9-2 F.F.Chopin
31 Träumerei R.Schumann
32 Fröhlicher Landmann R.Schumann
33 La prière d’une Vierge T.Badarzewska
34 Dolly’s Dreaming and Awakening T.Oesten
35 Arabesque J.F.Burgmüller
36 Pastorale J.F.Burgmüller
37 La chevaleresque J.F.Burgmüller
38 Liebesträume Nr.3 F.Liszt
39 Blumenlied G.Lange
40 Barcarolle P.I.Tchaikovsky
41 Melody in F A.Rubinstein
42 Humoresque A.Dvorák
43 Tango (España) I.Albéniz
44 The Entertainer S.Joplin
45 Maple Leaf Rag S.Joplin
46 La Fille aux Cheveux de Lin C.A.Debussy
47 Arabesque 1 C.A.Debussy
48 Clair de lune C.A.Debussy
49 Rêverie C.A.Debussy
50 Cakewalk C.A.Debussy

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#1393587 - 03/11/10 11:09 AM Re: I just purchased a Yamaha P155, a couple of questions.. [Re: ChrisA]
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Can you play along on the keyboard while the songs are playing? That would be good for practicing.
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#1395578 - 03/14/10 02:42 PM Re: I just purchased a Yamaha P155, a couple of questions.. [Re: doc noc]
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Originally Posted By: doc noc
Can you play along on the keyboard while the songs are playing? That would be good for practicing.


Yes.
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