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#1394381 - 03/12/10 01:20 PM Rock Song Questoin, improv...
Steve J. Offline
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Registered: 03/12/10
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Just started playing with a new band that's doing originals. They have a new tune, it's a poppy/rock song in A. It's practically a I-IV-V progression, 4/4 time. Think Nicky Hopkins/Stones. Anyway, it's mostly based around this A-D-A-D-E, with a Bm thown into the chorus and an F#m (minor 6th) throw into a bridge.

They want me to do a short solo/improv over the Verse part. I've tried doing it in both an A blues scale, and an Amaj. penta. scale. But neither seem to fit as well. I was wondering if because of that minor sixth thrown in, I probably need to do something a bit different. Any suggestions would be great! thanks

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#1394569 - 03/12/10 06:23 PM Re: Rock Song Questoin, improv... [Re: Steve J.]
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You've got to learn some licks.

I can't think of a 1-scale solution, especially not knowing how fast the chords are going by, and not really knowing the sound of the song.

Try using "slip notes" on each chord-- that is, using the 2nd as a grace note to the 3rd. The grace note happens on the beat.

Mess around with raising the 3rd of each chord a half-step (to the 4th) and then back.

Arpeggiate the chords in 16th notes.

Play parallel 3rds in the A major scale.

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#1394570 - 03/12/10 06:26 PM Re: Rock Song Questoin, improv... [Re: Steve J.]
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Hello Steve,

I'm pro'lly not that much of an expert yet on improvisation, but my help wouldn't hurt right?

If i were you i'd try something with in the blues scale of F# (3 semitones below A), which is simply A pentatonic with a additional flattened third (so: f#, a, b, c, c#, e, f#)
I use that technique rather often, and you could just try fiddling around with it a bit and see if something nice comes up. When switching chords you can use the same 'technique', so when you're on the D chord, try playing the blues scale of B (three semitones below D); or, in other words, D pentatonic with a flattened third. Of course, use your ears.


Edit: oh wait, it's a rock song. Hmm. Wel, for opening up and i the bpm ain't to fast, i like using some major 7th note every now and then. On the A chord that would be a g#, and you'd guess it, you could play something of an E chord in the right hand, switching over and forth between that and the root (A) chord. Youtube link would help here


Edited by snakechaser (03/12/10 06:32 PM)

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#1396258 - 03/15/10 11:42 AM Re: Rock Song Questoin, improv... [Re: snakechaser]
Steve J. Offline
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Registered: 03/12/10
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Thanks for both tips. After playing with it more, it seems the major pentatonic is the most fitting (or F#blues). I do slip in that the blue note (C) at times. It actually slides nicely from the C#-C-B-A. Makes for a fun, easy set of notes to fool around with. Also thanks for the tip on the throwing in the 2nd/4th. Sounds good when timed well. I think a lot of it was just getting more comfortable with the song.

Cheers

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