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#1408310 - 04/01/10 02:32 AM Re: Anybody a Ragtime fan [Re: SpencerF]
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SpencerF - thanks for the link!

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#1408313 - 04/01/10 02:45 AM Re: Anybody a Ragtime fan [Re: SpencerF]
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Originally Posted By: SpencerF
Because of this my favorite site for rags is at the university of colorado.

http://ucblibraries.colorado.edu/cgi-bin/sheetmusic.pl?Rag&titlepages&1
Yeh, thanks for that. I'll have to play through some when I've the time.
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#1408327 - 04/01/10 02:59 AM Re: Anybody a Ragtime fan [Re: keyboardklutz]
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Yeah you are welcome! just keep in mind that a lot of that stuff is pretty offensive. Gives you a real taste as to what the culture was actually like. No reason to censor history from sensible adults though.

But it is an amazing collection. I am working on printing every piece out. It's taking me a while...mostly just finding the time to download and save each picture takes forever.


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#1408328 - 04/01/10 03:04 AM Re: Anybody a Ragtime fan [Re: SpencerF]
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I hope your library will be open to the public! I tend to turn my screen sideways and sightread from there. You can get through lots.
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#1408329 - 04/01/10 03:06 AM Re: Anybody a Ragtime fan [Re: keyboardklutz]
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I hope your library will be open to the public! I tend to turn my screen sideways and sightread from there. You can get through lots.


Wow that sounds...hard and awkward.

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#1408335 - 04/01/10 03:12 AM Re: Anybody a Ragtime fan [Re: SpencerF]
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I also turn the image sideways!
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#1408340 - 04/01/10 03:43 AM Re: Anybody a Ragtime fan [Re: keyboardklutz]
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lol, still it seems like it would be awkward to play from a computer screen. Maybe not though, i have never tried it. Though i don't think it's possible with an upright grand.

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#1408343 - 04/01/10 03:52 AM Re: Anybody a Ragtime fan [Re: SpencerF]
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I use this reading through method on my DP or clavichord. Balancing a screen on an upright could have its difficulties.

What the hell, I'm not doing a lot, I'll start now. Suggestions?

Aggravation Rag is quite professional. I'm not sure you need so many Ab's in A minor. Surely G#'s make more sense?

Bit of a pain they're single images and not pdf's.


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#1408759 - 04/01/10 05:17 PM Re: Anybody a Ragtime fan [Re: Chris G]
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Maple Leaf rag is a tough one, I work on it from time to time as a background project but I still have a long way to go till it sounds good.


The "Trio" (3rd strain) is the toughest part. I want to take on this next after I finish the 1st strain.

Like you, Maple Leaf is my "side project." The notes are easy to learn but bringing it up to performance tempo is the tough part. This is one that sounds very nice around 96 BPM. smile
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#1408979 - 04/01/10 09:39 PM Re: Anybody a Ragtime fan [Re: CebuKid]
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Originally Posted By: CebuKid
Originally Posted By: Chris G


Maple Leaf rag is a tough one, I work on it from time to time as a background project but I still have a long way to go till it sounds good.


The "Trio" (3rd strain) is the toughest part. I want to take on this next after I finish the 1st strain.

Like you, Maple Leaf is my "side project." The notes are easy to learn but bringing it up to performance tempo is the tough part. This is one that sounds very nice around 96 BPM. smile


Yes that third section is really hard. The other sections aren't so easy either, the first is the only one I can play at > 40bpm. I find Maple Leaf a lot harder to remember than other Joplin rags, it seems to be full of unusual harmonic movement.

The first two measures of the fourth section are my favorite of the whole song, they just seem to totally capture the genius of Scott Joplin.

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#1408999 - 04/01/10 09:56 PM Re: Anybody a Ragtime fan [Re: Chris G]
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Originally Posted By: Chris G
Originally Posted By: CebuKid
Originally Posted By: Chris G


Maple Leaf rag is a tough one, I work on it from time to time as a background project but I still have a long way to go till it sounds good.


The "Trio" (3rd strain) is the toughest part. I want to take on this next after I finish the 1st strain.

Like you, Maple Leaf is my "side project." The notes are easy to learn but bringing it up to performance tempo is the tough part. This is one that sounds very nice around 96 BPM. smile


Yes that third section is really hard. The other sections aren't so easy either, the first is the only one I can play at > 40bpm. I find Maple Leaf a lot harder to remember than other Joplin rags, it seems to be full of unusual harmonic movement.

The first two measures of the fourth section are my favorite of the whole song, they just seem to totally capture the genius of Scott Joplin.


Hi Chris, based on your own experience, which ones of the 8 rags you've learnt you consider the easier and the harder?



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#1409111 - 04/02/10 01:01 AM Re: Anybody a Ragtime fan [Re: SpencerF]
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Question about Ragtime. Does anyone play and perform only Ragtime? I have always wondered about that so I just thought I would ask. As for me, I love Ragtime, Joplin the most. John

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#1409319 - 04/02/10 10:31 AM Re: Anybody a Ragtime fan [Re: al-mahed]
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Originally Posted By: al-mahed
Hi Chris, based on your own experience, which ones of the 8 rags you've learnt you consider the easier and the harder?

cheers


None of the rags I have learnt was easy but some were harder than others. The first four I learnt, each of which took several months to learn were

The Crysanthemum
Palm Leaf Rag
The Entertainer
Pleasant Moments

Of the four the Entertainer took most time for me to learn. Palm Leaf rag only has 3 movements which is a point in it's favour.

The hardest rag I play is

The Nonpareil

Three rags which I learnt more quickly were

Bink's Waltz
Swipesy
The Favorite

And there is a large set of rags which are in progress, all of which are going much more slowly than the three above and which I would consider to be on the hard side.

Eugenia
Maple Leaf Rag
Pine Apple Rag
Rosebud March
Weeping Willow
Paragon

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#1409330 - 04/02/10 10:48 AM Re: Anybody a Ragtime fan [Re: Chris G]
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Originally Posted By: Chris G
Originally Posted By: al-mahed
Hi Chris, based on your own experience, which ones of the 8 rags you've learnt you consider the easier and the harder?

cheers


None of the rags I have learnt was easy but some were harder than others. The first four I learnt, each of which took several months to learn were

The Crysanthemum
Palm Leaf Rag
The Entertainer
Pleasant Moments

Of the four the Entertainer took most time for me to learn. Palm Leaf rag only has 3 movements which is a point in it's favour.

The hardest rag I play is

The Nonpareil

Three rags which I learnt more quickly were

Bink's Waltz
Swipesy
The Favorite

And there is a large set of rags which are in progress, all of which are going much more slowly than the three above and which I would consider to be on the hard side.

Eugenia
Maple Leaf Rag
Pine Apple Rag
Rosebud March
Weeping Willow
Paragon


Chris G, that's a great list! Nonpareil is such a nice one too.

Weeping Willow is on my Joplin top 5 favorites. It's not one of his popular works but it's such a melodious piece.

I've heard and read that some of Joplin's hardest works are: Gladioulus, Fig Leaf, Magnetic Rag, Breeze from Alabama, and Solace. Perhaps one day learn them. smile
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#1409435 - 04/02/10 01:25 PM Re: Anybody a Ragtime fan [Re: CebuKid]
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Your host tries a bit of Billy Joel's Root Beer Rag.

First you'll here excerpts from Kathy's song, written for my friend Kathy, then a much shortened version of "rock opera" arrangement of Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata, and finally a bit of the Root Beer Rag.

Keep in mind this is a noisey setting in a huge hall (at the NAMM show in CA).

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#1409462 - 04/02/10 02:02 PM Re: Anybody a Ragtime fan [Re: john f]
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Hi, Frank.

Originally Posted By: john f
Question about Ragtime. Does anyone play and perform only Ragtime? I have always wondered about that so I just thought I would ask. As for me, I love Ragtime, Joplin the most. John


Many of the top ragtime players focus on it pretty much exclusively. But many of these are not musicians who do nothing else for a living. Most have unrelated day jobs. But I can think of a few. Bob Milne comes to mind. Though he also does Barrelhouse Boogie from the 20's and early 30's which is closely related.

Other full-time musicians I'm personally acquainted with who play a variety of genres, like jazz, classical, and a contemporary ragtime offshoot known as Terra Verde include Dick Hyman, Max Morath, Tex Wyndham, Jeff Barnhart, Tony Caramia, Morton Gunnar Larsen, The Ophelia Orchestra, Paul Asaro (Leon Redbone's piano player), Mary Sammon (Buddy Guy's keyboard player), Butch Thompson (former pp for Garrison Keillor), Mimi Blais, Glen Jenks, Frank French, Scott Kirby... the list goes on. Almost forgot John Gill .The list of top ragtimers with day-jobs is even longer.

And then there's my wife Sue, who Frank mentioned. She's also a full-time musician. But her musical range is pretty broad, bordering on the eclectic. In addition to Ragtime she does allot of early blues, novelty, stride, boogie, swing, cabaret, show tunes, a little classical, country, pop, and rock. Her latest project is a tribute to one of her earliest influences, Laura Nyro. And lately she's been learning Bossa Nova. In Portuguese. She also seemed to make friends with Jacqueline Schwab at Frank's Cape Cod PianoWorld party and tried her hand at Ashokan Farewell which Jacqueline did for Ken Burns... I sense another influence coming on... perhaps to both of them.

But Sue's best known for her 7-year stint as the Music Director of the Scott Joplin Ragtime Festival in Sedalia, MO... she'll be there again this year. But now that she's "retired" from running it, she'll actually be able to focus on performing for a change.

Sedalia, btw, is the place to go if you're interested in Ragtime... here's this year's line-up:

http://www.scottjoplin.org/performers.htm

And that's only the paid performer/ticketed-concert lineup. If you play enough ragtime to keep it together for 15 minutes in front of a packed, free, outside venue circus tent, they'll likely squeeze you in somewhere. Or strut your stuff at the nightly open-piano after-hours party at the hotel. Many of today's top ragtimers started out that way. Come. It's a week-long ragtime blast.

Howard

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#1409525 - 04/02/10 04:07 PM Re: Anybody a Ragtime fan [Re: Piano World]
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Your host tries a bit of Billy Joel's Root Beer Rag.

First you'll here excerpts from Kathy's song, written for my friend Kathy, then a much shortened version of "rock opera" arrangement of Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata, and finally a bit of the Root Beer Rag.

Keep in mind this is a noisey setting in a huge hall (at the NAMM show in CA).



That was awesome, Frank! Thanks for sharing that. smile

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#1409794 - 04/03/10 12:46 AM Re: Anybody a Ragtime fan [Re: hv]
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Hi Howard, Thank you very much for the response. You luck man, get to listen to all that piano for free. Here I have to play to listen and some times the sounds not so good. Maybe I just need to practice more. Thank you, John

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#1419197 - 04/17/10 11:07 PM Re: Anybody a Ragtime fan [Re: hv]
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#1431799 - 05/07/10 08:41 PM Re: Anybody a Ragtime fan [Re: kokonutty]
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A great deal of very rare ragtime and stride sheet music has recently been uploaded to www.pianophilia.com. You will need to register, but otherwise is free.

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#1442383 - 05/23/10 09:30 PM Re: Anybody a Ragtime fan [Re: CJM]
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Hello folks,

Do anybody know this book? It is a good edition?

http://www.sheetmusicplus.com/title/Library-Of-Ragtime-Early-Blues-Piano/3594359

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#1442390 - 05/23/10 09:43 PM Re: Anybody a Ragtime fan [Re: al-mahed]
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I have it and I love it smile I've been working on W.C. Handy's St. Louis Blues from it - one of these days I'm going to have time to make that my recital piece.

The book has a pretty good section on Joplin, but if you've got Joplin elsewhere that's not the reason to buy this book. This book has great rags, cakewalks, and blues from lots of different composers. Too much fun smile

It's also got that plastic comb binding so it opens flat and stays there.

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#1442396 - 05/23/10 10:04 PM Re: Anybody a Ragtime fan [Re: jotur]
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Hi Cathy, thanks a lot for the reply!

As you said, I'm willing to buy it because the broad compilation of less known composers, AND because it has the comb binding as you pointed! The only doubt I had was whether the quality of the scores itselfes was good and reliable or not.

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#1442434 - 05/23/10 11:17 PM Re: Anybody a Ragtime fan [Re: al-mahed]
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The quality is good. Very readable, and at least the Joplin and St. Louis Blues are original versions, so I assume the rest are, too.

Cathy
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#1442441 - 05/23/10 11:45 PM Re: Anybody a Ragtime fan [Re: jotur]
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Originally Posted By: jotur
The quality is good. Very readable, and at least the Joplin and St. Louis Blues are original versions, so I assume the rest are, too.

Cathy


Ohh yes... the originality problem... would be terrible learning something not original, or an easier arrangement! frown

Anyway, I'm having a lot of trouble with my Swipesy by know, I think I'll wait a little bit more to buy this edition, I don't know if there are much rags of the swipesy level (people say it is one of the less dificult rags, I don't know what you think about it.. smile )

thx


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#2021854 - 01/26/13 08:13 PM Re: Anybody a Ragtime fan [Re: Egel]
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I've become a fan of a few "newer" Rags, such as:

Mad Scientist Rag:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HucjsXrWtSo

Gitchee Gumee Rag:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dk3Vp_74rmI

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#2021897 - 01/26/13 09:50 PM Re: Anybody a Ragtime fan [Re: Egel]
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Thanks for those links, billertl, and welcome to the forums. Larisa used to post here on occasion, and I've seen her on the Elite Syncopation forums (I lurk there - I'm not a member). I take it you play some ragtime - there's a few of us here who do.

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#2021971 - 01/27/13 02:59 AM Re: Anybody a Ragtime fan [Re: jotur]
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Originally Posted By: jotur
Thanks for those links, billertl, and welcome to the forums. Larisa used to post here on occasion, and I've seen her on the Elite Syncopation forums (I lurk there - I'm not a member). I take it you play some ragtime - there's a few of us here who do.

Cathy


Larisa is an amazing musician. I'm a ragtime artist myself, and I could only hope to be half as talented as Larisa someday. I've seen most of her Youtube videos, and I'm very impressed.

Another Ragtime person who I follow on Youtube alot is Tom Brier. I've heard he's recorded a few CD's, which I want to buy someday.

Ragtime is the genre of piano music that I'm drawn to the most. I also like Jazz, blues, and rock. But there's just something classic about Ragtime.

I have a Wellington Piano that was made in 1904, which I want to have restored (it's in rough shape). People have told me that the cost of restoring it would be so expensive, that it would be smarter to just buy a new piano instead. But I think I'll opt for restoring the 1904 piano, just because I think old pianos have character. 1904 was the height of the Ragtime craze, and I could just imagine a person playing Ragtime on that piano back when it was new.

I actually have several pianos, which could all use some work. And Ragtime lends itself well to my old pianos that are slightly out of tune.

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#2021975 - 01/27/13 03:17 AM Re: Anybody a Ragtime fan [Re: Undone]
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I'm a big fan too. Another great site to check out is "Perfessor Bill's": http://www.perfessorbill.com/sources1.shtml


I met Bill Edwards (i.e., "Perfessor Bill") one time at a concert he gave at a local church, and, he is simply one of the best ragtime players I have ever heard!

And, he's a really nice guy to know, too. Check this out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCBC9K3SAZ8

His main homepage is simply:

http://www.perfbill.com/

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#2022110 - 01/27/13 10:42 AM Re: Anybody a Ragtime fan [Re: pv88]
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And, of course, his unforgetable Hanon Rag <http://www.perfbill.com/albums/pbrec7.shtml> If you're bored with Hanon, try this!

Originally Posted By: pv88
Originally Posted By: Undone
I'm a big fan too. Another great site to check out is "Perfessor Bill's": http://www.perfessorbill.com/sources1.shtml


I met Bill Edwards (i.e., "Perfessor Bill") one time at a concert he gave at a local church, and, he is simply one of the best ragtime players I have ever heard!

And, he's a really nice guy to know, too. Check this out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCBC9K3SAZ8

His main homepage is simply:

http://www.perfbill.com/
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