Welcome to the Piano World Piano Forums
Over 2 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments
Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers (it's free)
It's Fun to Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!

Gifts and supplies for the musician
SEARCH
the Forums & Piano World

This custom search works much better than the built in one and allows searching older posts.
(ad) Yamaha CP4 Rebate
Yamaha CP4 Rebate
(ad 125) Sweetwater - Digital Keyboards & Other Gear
Digital Pianos at Sweetwater
(ad) Pianoteq
(ad) Pearl River
Pearl River Pianos
(ad) P B Guide
Acoustic & Digital Piano Guide
Who's Online
133 registered (A Guy, Almaviva, Al Quinn, ABC Vermonter, 36251, 33 invisible), 1315 Guests and 9 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Quick Links to Useful Piano & Music Resources
Our Classified Ads
Find Piano Professionals-

*Piano Dealers - Piano Stores
*Piano Tuners
*Piano Teachers
*Piano Movers
*Piano Restorations
*Piano Manufacturers
*Organs

Quick Links:
*Advertise On Piano World
*Free Piano Newsletter
*Online Piano Recitals
*Piano Recitals Index
*Piano & Music Accessories
*Music School Listings
* Buying a Piano
*Buying A Acoustic Piano
*Buying a Digital Piano
*Pianos for Sale
*Sell Your Piano
*How Old is My Piano?
*Piano Books
*Piano Art, Pictures, & Posters
*Directory/Site Map
*Contest
*Links
*Virtual Piano
*Music Word Search
*Piano Screen Saver
*Piano Videos
*Virtual Piano Chords
(ad) Estonia Piano
Estonia Pianos
Topic Options
#1432581 - 05/08/10 08:54 PM Excercises/Tricks to increase finger speed?
lpmaniac4774 Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 05/08/10
Posts: 3
Hi everybody! I have been playing the piano for about a year now. I can easily read the notes to any song, so I am not worried about that. My only problem is that I can NEVER do parts of a song that require quick fingers. If you do not know what I mean, here is an example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB4SJC-nIRo

The part at 2:37 is what I am talking about. I just used that part as an example, but I struggle with the same exact thing on every song I try to play. I figure it has to do mostly with the speed/strength of your fingers, but I have no idea how to build up the speed/strength. Can anyone give me any exercises that I can practice to be able to play parts like these? I keep trying to practice it over and over, but I always end up failing.

Thank you very much, and I hope I posted this in the right forum.

Top
Ad 800 (Pearl River)
Pearl River World's Best Selling Piano
#1432587 - 05/08/10 09:07 PM Re: Excercises/Tricks to increase finger speed? [Re: lpmaniac4774]
Mattardo Offline
1000 Post Club Member

Registered: 02/11/08
Posts: 1306
Cocaine. smile
Lacking that, try Hanon's Virtuoso Piano Exercises for a few months, and then as needed when rusty.
Czerny is also good for helping with runs.

Out of curiosity, have any pianists been busted (like athletes) using drugs to 'help' their playing? I've never really thought about it before, but I suppose it's possible..anything is possible.


Edited by Mattardo (05/08/10 09:08 PM)

Top
#1432588 - 05/08/10 09:09 PM Re: Excercises/Tricks to increase finger speed? [Re: lpmaniac4774]
Arcturus Offline
Full Member

Registered: 09/12/09
Posts: 79
Loc: Kansas City, MO, USA
First of all... check out these quick fingers:

Richter: Chopin Etude Op. 10 No. 4





Yeah, that just happened. Anyway, there are any number of possibilities for why you are having trouble with this. Maybe you are using too much finger action (lifting your fingers too high) in which case you should try to keep your fingers closer to the keys when you are playing in general, or maybe you need to work on your scales some more. Have you gotten to where you are practicing major scales regularly, if so set your metronome to a manageable speed and increase speed gradually - also incorporate 'galloping horse' (dotted eighth-sixteenth rhythm instead of straight eights/sixteenths) or 'speed burst' (organize the run into 3 or 4-note groups then play the passage where the first note of each group is long and the other 2 or 3 notes in each group are fast) practice techniques into your scale routine.


Edited by Arcturus (05/08/10 09:09 PM)

Top
#1432592 - 05/08/10 09:14 PM Re: Excercises/Tricks to increase finger speed? [Re: lpmaniac4774]
Rui725 Offline
500 Post Club Member

Registered: 11/19/09
Posts: 953
Do you work on your scales and arpeggio's?

Any tension in your hand due when playing the quick passage will result in some mistake in one form or another.


Edited by Rui725 (05/08/10 09:15 PM)

Top
#1432601 - 05/08/10 09:37 PM Re: Excercises/Tricks to increase finger speed? [Re: carey]
stores Offline
6000 Post Club Member

Registered: 12/28/09
Posts: 6648
Loc: Here, as opposed to there
You don't need quick fingers to sing a song.
_________________________

"And if we look at the works of J.S. Bach — a benevolent god to which all musicians should offer a prayer to defend themselves against mediocrity... -Debussy

"It's ok if you disagree with me. I can't force you to be right."

♪ ≠ $


Top
#1432603 - 05/08/10 09:43 PM Re: Excercises/Tricks to increase finger speed? [Re: carey]
Rui725 Offline
500 Post Club Member

Registered: 11/19/09
Posts: 953
Is that youtube video the OP playing or just used as an example? I was lead to believe it was just to show which passage was giving him a hard time but not actually "him/her" performing.


Edited by Rui725 (05/08/10 09:44 PM)

Top
#1432607 - 05/08/10 09:49 PM Re: Excercises/Tricks to increase finger speed? [Re: Rui725]
Arcturus Offline
Full Member

Registered: 09/12/09
Posts: 79
Loc: Kansas City, MO, USA
That's what I thought too when I read it.

Top
#1432610 - 05/08/10 09:51 PM Re: Excercises/Tricks to increase finger speed? [Re: Rui725]
carey Online   content
6000 Post Club Member

Registered: 05/13/05
Posts: 6650
Loc: Phoenix, Arizona
Originally Posted By: Rui725
Is that youtube video the OP playing or just used as an example? I was lead to believe it was just to show which passage was giving him a hard time but not actually "him/her" performing.


smokin



Edited by carey (05/08/10 09:53 PM)
_________________________
YouTube channel - http://www.youtube.com/user/pianophilo

Top
#1432616 - 05/08/10 09:58 PM Re: Excercises/Tricks to increase finger speed? [Re: carey]
Rui725 Offline
500 Post Club Member

Registered: 11/19/09
Posts: 953
Originally Posted By: carey
Originally Posted By: Rui725
Is that youtube video the OP playing or just used as an example? I was lead to believe it was just to show which passage was giving him a hard time but not actually "him/her" performing.


smokin



confused

on a side note, the Yamaha A1 looks like a great instrument for its price.


Edited by Rui725 (05/08/10 10:00 PM)

Top
#1432620 - 05/08/10 10:03 PM Re: Excercises/Tricks to increase finger speed? [Re: Rui725]
Pogorelich. Offline
4000 Post Club Member

Registered: 12/28/08
Posts: 4565
Loc: not somewhere over the rainbow
Practice. You'll discover, nothing develops technique betterrr =)
_________________________

"Doing things changes things. Not doing things leaves things exactly as they were."

Top
#1432637 - 05/08/10 10:19 PM Re: Excercises/Tricks to increase finger speed? [Re: Pogorelich.]
Horowitzian Offline
8000 Post Club Member

Registered: 09/18/08
Posts: 8453
Originally Posted By: AngelinaPogorelich
Practice. You'll discover, nothing develops technique betterrr =)


That, and major 7th arps. My new teacher has me doing those in all keys, and I'm telling you I haven't touched Hanon since.
_________________________
Close only counts in horseshoes, hand grenades, and nuclear weapons.

Top
#1432640 - 05/08/10 10:33 PM Re: Excercises/Tricks to increase finger speed? [Re: Horowitzian]
Rui725 Offline
500 Post Club Member

Registered: 11/19/09
Posts: 953
Major 7th arpeggio, technically speaking, would be the same as the dominant and diminished arpeggio's found in Hanon.

Top
#1432655 - 05/08/10 10:52 PM Re: Excercises/Tricks to increase finger speed? [Re: Horowitzian]
Pogorelich. Offline
4000 Post Club Member

Registered: 12/28/08
Posts: 4565
Loc: not somewhere over the rainbow
Originally Posted By: Horowitzian
Originally Posted By: AngelinaPogorelich
Practice. You'll discover, nothing develops technique betterrr =)


That, and major 7th arps. My new teacher has me doing those in all keys, and I'm telling you I haven't touched Hanon since.


Ugh I remember having to do those for an exam. I loathed it! (the whole scales experience for an exam)
_________________________

"Doing things changes things. Not doing things leaves things exactly as they were."

Top
#1432660 - 05/08/10 11:05 PM Re: Excercises/Tricks to increase finger speed? [Re: Pogorelich.]
Horowitzian Offline
8000 Post Club Member

Registered: 09/18/08
Posts: 8453
I love them! To each his own I guess. laugh
_________________________
Close only counts in horseshoes, hand grenades, and nuclear weapons.

Top
#1432662 - 05/08/10 11:05 PM Re: Excercises/Tricks to increase finger speed? [Re: Rui725]
Horowitzian Offline
8000 Post Club Member

Registered: 09/18/08
Posts: 8453
Originally Posted By: Rui725
Major 7th arpeggio, technically speaking, would be the same as the dominant and diminished arpeggio's found in Hanon.


No, I do them as they are — I believe — found in the Brahms exercises.
_________________________
Close only counts in horseshoes, hand grenades, and nuclear weapons.

Top
#1432679 - 05/08/10 11:49 PM Re: Excercises/Tricks to increase finger speed? [Re: lpmaniac4774]
carey Online   content
6000 Post Club Member

Registered: 05/13/05
Posts: 6650
Loc: Phoenix, Arizona
Originally Posted By: lpmaniac4774
Hi everybody! I have been playing the piano for about a year now. I can easily read the notes to any song, so I am not worried about that. My only problem is that I can NEVER do parts of a song that require quick fingers. If you do not know what I mean, here is an example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB4SJC-nIRo

The part at 2:37 is what I am talking about. I just used that part as an example, but I struggle with the same exact thing on every song I try to play. I figure it has to do mostly with the speed/strength of your fingers, but I have no idea how to build up the speed/strength. Can anyone give me any exercises that I can practice to be able to play parts like these? I keep trying to practice it over and over, but I always end up failing.

Thank you very much, and I hope I posted this in the right forum.


If you don't already have one - I suggest you find yourself a good teacher. smile
_________________________
YouTube channel - http://www.youtube.com/user/pianophilo

Top
#1432685 - 05/09/10 12:05 AM Re: Excercises/Tricks to increase finger speed? [Re: carey]
ChopinAddict Offline
6000 Post Club Member

Registered: 08/29/09
Posts: 6184
Loc: Land of the never-ending music
Try Czerny's School of Velocity maybe?
But actually I tend to agree with Angelina that the best method is to practice a lot...
_________________________



Music is my best friend.


Top

Moderator:  Brendan, Kreisler 
What's Hot!!
The February 2015 Issue of our Free Piano News Newsletter is out now! FREE Piano Newsletter
--------------------
The best thing I've learned on Piano World....
-------------------
Posting Pictures on the Forums
-------------------
Forums Rules & Help
-------------------
ADVERTISE
on Piano World

The world's most popular piano web site.
-------------------
PIANO BOOKS
(ad) Jazz Piano Online
Jazz Piano Online Lessons
Ad (Seiler/Knabe)
Knabe Pianos
(125ad) Dampp Chaser
Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver
(ad) Lindeblad Piano
Lindeblad Piano Restoration
New Topics - Multiple Forums
Transition to wedding pianist
by Angela62213
Today at 08:39 PM
Is the Roland DP90e still available in the US?
by JEB NYC
Today at 08:22 PM
Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody - Hard Rock Piano - vkgoeswild
by Gi Dy
Today at 07:40 PM
Piano Cover Vendors Comparison
by iObsessed
Today at 07:40 PM
Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody - Hard Rock Piano - vkgoeswild
by Gi Dy
Today at 07:38 PM
Forum Stats
78,418 Registered Members
43 Forums
162,122 Topics
2,380,322 Posts

Most users ever online: 15,252 @ 03/21/10 11:39 PM
Gift Ideas for Music Lovers!
Find the Perfect Gift for the Music Lovers on your List!
Visit our online store today.

Visit our online store for gifts for music lovers

 
Help keep the forums up and running with a donation, any amount is appreciated!
Or by becoming a Subscribing member! Thank-you.
Donate   Subscribe
 
Our Piano Related Classified Ads
|
Dealers | Tuners | Lessons | Movers | Restorations | Pianos For Sale | Sell Your Piano |

Advertise on Piano World
| Subscribe | Piano World | PianoSupplies.com | Advertise on Piano World | Donate | Link to Us | Classifieds |
| |Contact | Privacy | Legal | About Us | Site Map | Free Newsletter | Press Room |


copyright 1997 - 2015 Piano World ® all rights reserved
No part of this site may be reproduced without prior written permission