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#1446130 - 05/29/10 03:19 PM CLICK HERE FOR THE EASY PIECE
Priidik Offline
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Hamelin wrote this piece of cake ;););););)

talk about Rach 5.

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6eTRaC4W8Y&feature=related][/url]


Edited by Priidik (05/29/10 03:20 PM)

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#1446136 - 05/29/10 03:25 PM Re: CLICK HERE FOR THE EASY PIECE [Re: Priidik]
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#1446137 - 05/29/10 03:29 PM Re: CLICK HERE FOR THE EASY PIECE [Re: Damon]
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Circus Galop sounds like something you'd hear in a silent movie, although some of the most repetivie parts like at 1:00 and likewise get a little annoying sometimes... Plus, the ending doesn't do it well for me.

But my favorite part is the recapitulation at 2:57 with all the glissandi going among the main theme.

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#1446140 - 05/29/10 03:32 PM Re: CLICK HERE FOR THE EASY PIECE [Re: Damon]
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The video looks like what happens when I play around in Sibelius and don't take the time to alter the tempo or anything I've done, for that matter! Then just hit PLAY heh heh. I once had someone convinced that my random note-throwing and mouse-clicking was some modern piece of art music by some obscure composer. I didn't have the heart to tell them the truth after they started looking at the piece and commenting on it's 'dense construction' and it's 'modern rejection of traditional musical values' and on and on and on. And this was after they listened to it being performed by Sibelius's cold, calculating robot sensibilities.

It just goes to show ya' how some people can easily be swayed by the majority of modern music's claim to profoundness. Schoenberg once said he envisioned Grocer's boys whistling his tunes, once the initial shock of his new system was overcome, comparing his music to the radicalness of Beethoven's. Well, Arnold - you were wrong: nobody whistles your 'music' and the passage of time hasn't sufficently warped many people's musical tastes to accomodate yours'. >:)

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#1446259 - 05/29/10 07:29 PM Re: CLICK HERE FOR THE EASY PIECE [Re: Mattardo]
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Nancarrow is looking down from the heavens, thinking "but... that's cheating!"

It makes sense that Hamelin wrote it. Once you get past the spectacle, you realize that it's actually a very good composition.



-J
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#1446261 - 05/29/10 07:36 PM Re: CLICK HERE FOR THE EASY PIECE [Re: Mattardo]
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Originally Posted By: Mattardo
Well, Arnold - you were wrong: nobody whistles your 'music'
Well I have this gorgeous CD of Lucia Popp singing the op.2 songs, and I've found myself whistling those!
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#1446263 - 05/29/10 07:46 PM Re: CLICK HERE FOR THE EASY PIECE [Re: currawong]
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Originally Posted By: currawong
Originally Posted By: Mattardo
Well, Arnold - you were wrong: nobody whistles your 'music'
Well I have this gorgeous CD of Lucia Popp singing the op.2 songs, and I've found myself whistling those!


Yes, and I've caught myself whistling or humming Pierrot, the third quartet, and the stunning song Herzgewächse. No need to gleefully disparage what you happen not to like.

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#1446281 - 05/29/10 08:38 PM Re: CLICK HERE FOR THE EASY PIECE [Re: beet31425]
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This version has the original hand-written score...which has some hilarious comments, and the writing is more clear than the above (because at some point, there are 12 staves present....)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6utk2nFjpXA
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#1446302 - 05/29/10 09:20 PM Re: CLICK HERE FOR THE EASY PIECE [Re: beet31425]
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Originally Posted By: beet31425
Originally Posted By: currawong
Originally Posted By: Mattardo
Well, Arnold - you were wrong: nobody whistles your 'music'
Well I have this gorgeous CD of Lucia Popp singing the op.2 songs, and I've found myself whistling those!


Yes, and I've caught myself whistling or humming Pierrot, the third quartet, and the stunning song Herzgewächse. No need to gleefully disparage what you happen not to like.

-J


We'll have to reserve this for another thread - (I didn't realize there were still Arnold fans around who would take offense at my agreeing with the verdict of musical history), and there's a lot that could be said about classical music, audience appreciation and the test of time being applied to composers. We'll place some of the serialists next to their revolutionary predecessors and see whose music had more of an impact in the long run. I gleefully disparage with good reasons, not just because I do not like the music on a personal level. But anyways....that's all I'll say on it in this thread. My intention was not to derail anything. smile

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#1446303 - 05/29/10 09:22 PM Re: CLICK HERE FOR THE EASY PIECE [Re: Mattardo]
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So, is this Hammelin piece actually playeable - OUTSIDE of a computer doing it? I assume it's a joke piece?

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#1446308 - 05/29/10 09:31 PM Re: CLICK HERE FOR THE EASY PIECE [Re: Mattardo]
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No problem, Mattardo. (Although I naturally object to your use of the word "still" in "still Arnold fans", as if the Schoenberg fans are dropping out like flies as we realize the emperor has no clothes, and I certainly disagree with your interpretation of the "verdict of musical history". As you say, another conversation, although I don't know how interesting or fruitful it would prove. smile )

As for the Hamelin piece, it's apparently written for two player pianos, I'd guess in tribute to Conlon Nancarrow, whose life-work is a set of ~50 rhythmic studies for player piano, each painstakingly punched on a player piano roll, collectively exploring the limits of the physically possible and aurally perceptible.

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#1446321 - 05/29/10 09:48 PM Re: CLICK HERE FOR THE EASY PIECE [Re: beet31425]
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This.. is the greatest thing I have ever seen.

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#1446379 - 05/29/10 10:49 PM Re: CLICK HERE FOR THE EASY PIECE [Re: Mattardo]
currawong Offline
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Originally Posted By: Mattardo
We'll place some of the serialists next to their revolutionary predecessors and see whose music had more of an impact in the long run.
Can't say I care too much about "impact". I just happen to like the music. But I don't want to derail the thread either. smile
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#1446387 - 05/29/10 11:01 PM Re: CLICK HERE FOR THE EASY PIECE [Re: Mattardo]
RunRichard Offline
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Registered: 04/16/10
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Originally Posted By: Mattardo
So, is this Hammelin piece actually playeable - OUTSIDE of a computer doing it? I assume it's a joke piece?


It's a bit extensive for simply a joke, no?
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#1446397 - 05/29/10 11:14 PM Re: CLICK HERE FOR THE EASY PIECE [Re: RunRichard]
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Sort of reminds me of the second movement of Beethoven's Op. 73.

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#1446400 - 05/29/10 11:19 PM Re: CLICK HERE FOR THE EASY PIECE [Re: RunRichard]
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Well it's a humourous piece....check out the link I posted and the final bars...."the fatal accident".

Hamelin has a sense of humour in a lot of the stuff he writes...the Hungarian rhapsody cadenza, the nokia waltz, and this.
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#1446402 - 05/29/10 11:22 PM Re: CLICK HERE FOR THE EASY PIECE [Re: Kuanpiano]
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I think I get it. Recall the comments he made in his interview.. how people are always pushing him to play music that is stupidly hard, just because no one else can, even though it's musically worthless. Like Mereaux Etudes. I think this is a piece to satisfy (or troll?) those kinds of people.

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