Who knew?

so no one is still sure if SuperNATURAL kit is built-into the piano or simply 700gx1 pre-installed?

Or if there are any other changes . . . They have other expansion boards, and didn't feel the need to change the name of the keyboard . . . confusing!

PHA-III?

For example.

I've called Roland Canada about this, but was told that the person who could answer the question was on a break, for a few days. The person I spoke with tried to answer, but obviously didn't even understand the question.

All I've heard or read on this issue has been hearsay or assumption. I'd like to hear or read something directly from Roland.

I'll try to call back today.

Yeah, this is just a ditto of everything, but it's just the card included.

Funny! Just got my Rd700GX(F) in the mail today, without the expansion card. Now I'm playing phone tag trying to figure out why they sent me the wrong one (plain old GX). What the feck is going on here? Seems like I've been hearing this story too much. Is it the dealers trying to get away with some sneaky stuff?

Mafew J, I just knew the $2200 price you paid for your GXF was too low to be real!

Even for a plain vanilla GX though, I wouldn't sneeze at $2200. Add the $300 SN card and you're at the normal on-line price for the GX, so that's a pretty decent deal.

There's a GX demo here in town for $2k but demos scare me.

I received and email informing me that the SuperNatural kit I have on order has arrived at the store, so I'll be off this evening to pick it up.

Today I called the keys guy at the local Guitar center. He said the Roland dude was actually in the store at that moment, so he ran my questions past him. He said Roland was only going to ship the RD-700GX with SN installed from now on. No new paint job for the GXF.

Also talked to the keys guy at the local Sam Ash. He said they were waiting to sell out of their GX's and after that they would only sell the GXF. He too confirmed that it's just a GX w/ SN card installed.

I sure hope this works out for you, Lawrence...looking forward to your review.

Snazzy

Thanks, Snazzy. I'm back and the install and OS update went smoothly, although I'm trying to figure out if I've got the latest and greatest OS. I'm now running ver. 2.01, but at Rolandclan there is talk about 2.1, . . . .

Review to follow, not that anyone will listen to me, given my recent DP history!

Lawrence

Ha ha! Lawrence, you're super picky so I'm all ears. You're like Mikey in the Life cereal commercials...

I just tried an RD-700GX this evening - the stock pianos aren't really all that bad (as these things go).

Thanks for the clarification dewster.

Cheers,
James
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Well I'll listen, pardner...at least you are actually sitting down and playing these things thoroughly...I'm rather fed up on the CP-series, as well as the Roland SuperNatural pianos, so it's going to be the Avant Grand N3 after I get my living space sorted out.

Every other piano sounds like poo compared to the Avant Grand N3.

I've got my arranger keyboard, the PSR-S910, and the P-85 makes a great controller for when I need 88 keys, so all that's left is a dedicated piano, and it's gonna be the N3.

Snazzy

Me? Super picky? Nah. You're the super picky one!



You didn't get to try out the SuperNatural pianos?

Lawrence

PS - Woo Hoo - I'm now a "500 Post Club Member"!

Melodialworks Music:

Is the piano that you just received 700GXF? or are you just talking about receiving 700GX1 the expansion board.

thanks in advance! waiting eagerly for your review!

I got the RD-700GX a week ago. Last night picked up the K-RD-700GX1 expansion, which had been on back order.

Unfortunately, no. GC won't stock the GXF until the last GX is out of there, and there were no other SN pianos about.


I like the little "Yikes!" that precedes the 10k post club designator on this board.

I ordered a GXF and they sent me the "wrong one", the "old version" by "accident". I really like the way it sounds, very good through my monitors but was hoping for the expansion board. I also hope I purchased the 'new run' of GX's with the "ivory feel" that doesn't have the key wear everyone's talking about. The dealer "corrected" the mistake and will be sending me the expansion board. Has anyone heard any details about the board besides the corporate BS on the brochures and the dealer sites? How much ROM does it have? Does it have any processing on board or is it just some more samples. When the say "derived from the V-Piano", is that mean it's distantly related or have some real guts of the V piano? Bottom line, the piano feels, sounds, and looks great. This is my first Roland keyboard after using Yamaha for years. It's fun to have a new experience with the menus and the browsing through the menus. Yamaha has always been as about intuitive as the DX7 when it comes to editable functions or operating systems. It's just a nice change. I like both products but didn't think that the new Cp's were revolutionary enough to warrent being stuck with a keyboard for 10 years.

Here's an english translation of a web site where they discuss the RD SN expansion board and even show a couple of photos of it:

http://www.e-muzyk.net.pl/content/view/2369/34/


Over at Roland clan someone looked at the chips for me and reported back that there is 32 MB of flash on the SN card and pretty much nothing else (no processor):

Roland Clan


And I think the V-Piano tie-in means they are probably synthesizing the decay portion of the notes (100% conjecture on my part).

Thanks, helpful!

Well, that's quite a turnaround from the guy who first sold his N3 in frustration and then together with his alter ego was suggesting that people should order CP series keyboards sight unseen and without auditioning them just on the basis of authorities who recommended them. Which is almost as interesting as the fact that Dave Ferris went back and deleted all his previous posts in the same Yamaha Stage Piano thread.

I guess what they say is very true: not just Caveat Emptor but Cavet Lector. At least half of whatever you read here from some posters is bullshit and the rest often isn't worth very much either.

Actually, Joey, I sold my Avant Grand at a tidy profit...not that it would make much sense to someone at your stage of development, and not that it's any of your business in the first place.

Mostly everything I've read from you sort has a great degree of disdain about anything that doesn't correspond to your view of the status quo...personally, I think it's because most of it goes over your head.

Certainly I'll be looking forward to when you lower your meds and learn how to participate properly on a public forum, without resorting to foul language...it does, however, give the rest of us a good indication just how low your standards really are.

Snazzy

BTW, Colleen says "Hi", and wishes you all the best of success in your recovery.

Another puerile contribution from snazzy...like clockwork. Have you also sold your CP5 at a profit that you claimed to have ordered?

Please give it a rest chaps.

James
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Hey, Joey, speaking of puerility, you're the one needing to resort to foul language.

You should quit while you're behind.

Snazzy

My apologies, James.

Snazzy

Looks like Roland has updated their site. They list two separate products, the 700GX and the 700GXF. As expected, they are identical, except for the GXF having the SN kit pre-installed.

http://www.rolandus.com/products/productdetails.php?ProductId=1088

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