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#1447075 - 05/31/10 02:37 AM Re: Jazz phenomenon featured on YouTube [Re: Jazz+]
Wizard of Oz Offline
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Registered: 08/12/09
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Jazz+ I've never heard that before, you got any concrete evidence?

I've heard his Kohn, Sun Bear, Radiance, Testament solo concerts and none of his improvs sound like a rehash of anything.

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#1447077 - 05/31/10 02:40 AM Re: Jazz phenomenon featured on YouTube [Re: Jazz+]
AJF Offline
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Registered: 05/18/06
Posts: 1625
Loc: Toronto
Jazz+, That's just hearsay. There's no way to authenticate a statement like that. For me the real "not that it matters" is that the music is great and inspiring whether or not it's spontaneous or fully preconceived. And I can't speak for you of course, but for me Keith Jarrett's music has a hell of a lot to do with my music. He's consistently been a huge influence on my own development as an artist. I don't think anyone's music exists on an 'island'. All music is rooted to a lot of other music that came before it.


Edited by AJF (05/31/10 02:41 AM)

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#1448077 - 06/01/10 01:28 PM Re: Jazz phenomenon featured on YouTube [Re: etcetra]
ChaseBaird Offline
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Registered: 06/01/10
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Dear Etcetra,

Thanks for your kind words about my playing! I also wanted to call attention to the pianist on my new album, Julian Pollack. He is presently 21-yrs-old and played at the Blue Note (New York) with his own group as recently as three weeks ago. You can also catch him on tour this month in California in promotion of his new album Infinite Playground. He be playing at Yoshi's (Oakland, CA), the Mint (Los Angeles), Dizzy's (San Diego) among other places. He's a phenomenal musician and I hope you'll check him out: http://www.julianpollackmusic.com/fr_intro.cfm

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#1448195 - 06/01/10 04:53 PM Re: Jazz phenomenon featured on YouTube [Re: ChaseBaird]
Sir Lurksalot Online   content
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My 2 cents on the "Jarrett re-hash" discussion. I have every Jarrett solo concert recording that's been released, and have watched most of the Youtube stuff. While there are plenty of examples of him re-using themes from one concert to another, in every such case he has given the piece a name, so that it could be considered a composition more than an improv.

There's one exception that I'm aware of. This theme from the Tokyo '84 encore also appears in Bremen/Lausanne more than 10 years earlier. As far as I know it has no name. Not that it really matters, but I suppose viewers of Tokyo '84 could have assumed that it was completely improvised at that time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPqK1JJOFxw

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#1448203 - 06/01/10 05:13 PM Re: Jazz phenomenon featured on YouTube [Re: Sir Lurksalot]
Wizard of Oz Offline
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In alot of KJ's standards trio songs he often does a short solo intro before the piece. Listen to My Funny Valentine, he almost always does something. Every version I've heard sounds different, and I've heard 6-8 counting bootlegs.

The best one I think is from the Still Live '85 album. And the intro for Stella by Starlight from the Standards Live album is great too.

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#1448339 - 06/01/10 09:02 PM Re: Jazz phenomenon featured on YouTube [Re: Wizard of Oz]
AJF Offline
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Loc: Toronto
Those are two of my very favourite Keith intros along with his intro on Body and Soul from The Cure.

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#1448352 - 06/01/10 09:15 PM Re: Jazz phenomenon featured on YouTube [Re: AJF]
etcetra Offline
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Registered: 05/25/08
Posts: 1446
AJF,

Yea Body and Soul!! I transcribed the piano intro and the actual solo a long time ago. I lost a lot of my work because my computer crashed, but I still have like a page worth of it on my computer.

What I find amazing about Keith is that he seem to be thinking everything in terms of counterpoint.. it's almost as if these individual lines just happen to form chords. It's like a very complicated/advanced version of choral style piano.


Edited by etcetra (06/01/10 09:15 PM)

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#1448616 - 06/02/10 06:39 AM Re: Jazz phenomenon featured on YouTube [Re: etcetra]
custard apple Offline
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Registered: 12/11/09
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Loc: Sydney
Keith's counterpoint vocabulary must be huge from studying Bach's Well Tempered Clavier.

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#1448619 - 06/02/10 06:51 AM Re: Jazz phenomenon featured on YouTube [Re: custard apple]
etcetra Offline
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custard apple,

I heard a story that this lady requested keith to do Ravel's Bolero at a lounge gig.. and Keith was actually able to play thing in it's entirety by ear even though he's never played it before in his life.

I am pretty sure I will not be able to do that even if I learned the whole Well Tempered Clavier.. smile

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#1448846 - 06/02/10 02:53 PM Re: Jazz phenomenon featured on YouTube [Re: etcetra]
Sir Lurksalot Online   content
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Registered: 03/19/04
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etcetra - I replied to your helpful PM a while back. It doesn't look like you've read it, so just FYI.

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#1448986 - 06/02/10 06:36 PM Re: Jazz phenomenon featured on YouTube [Re: Sir Lurksalot]
custard apple Offline
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Registered: 12/11/09
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Loc: Sydney
Keith is a freak, he's got it all.

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#1449863 - 06/03/10 11:46 PM Re: Jazz phenomenon featured on YouTube [Re: custard apple]
EDV Offline
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Registered: 05/24/10
Posts: 26
KJ is the Jimmy Hendrix of the piano.

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#2003723 - 12/24/12 12:38 AM Re: Jazz phenomenon featured on YouTube [Re: EDV]
MRW158 Offline
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Registered: 12/23/12
Posts: 4
This is Matthew Sheens now. I liked this!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oMsOvBh5o4

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#2003797 - 12/24/12 07:16 AM Re: Jazz phenomenon featured on YouTube [Re: MRW158]
36251 Offline
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Registered: 11/12/10
Posts: 751
Here's a favorite of mine, Ariel Pocock. I haven't seen many recent videos of her but here's a few. She's 18 in first vid. The second shows off her equally gifted talent, her voice, which is a combination of many styles.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-BOCh41ejc


She's 20 in this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MezUmismN3o
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#2003819 - 12/24/12 08:34 AM Re: Jazz phenomenon featured on YouTube [Re: EDV]
chrisbell Offline
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Registered: 05/11/07
Posts: 1368
Loc: Stockholm, Sweden
Amongst all these fine young players I must insist on you guys taking time to listen to Greg Goebel. His playing with David Friesen is wonderfully good!

Check out: https://itunes.apple.com/se/album/priesen-circle-of-three/id426558631

Here is Greg with is own ensemble:
http://www.greggoebelmusic.com/Media_files/10%20In%20the%20Red%202.mp3
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I never play anything the same way once.

https://soundcloud.com/chrisb/sets
https://www.youtube.com/user/djboing/videos

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