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#1438690 - 05/17/10 11:27 PM Re: New stage pianos from Yamaha! [Re: Nikalette]
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I bought a CP5 two weeks ago, and I can hardly stop playing the thing.

Such a clear, expressive piano. Fat and funky electric pianos. All the organs a guy could ask for.

The action might not be GH, but I don't miss it. It's as though the keys enjoy being played.

However...

Every now and then a few of the keys (2 or 3) produce a clicking sound. Has anyone encountered anything like this with a Yamaha? Just a very light, very quick click. But noticeably not the soft frump of the other keys when pressed. And not every time. I'd hate to think I've got a defective $2,600 piano.

And I might be a complete moron, but I'm certainly not a sound engineer with a degree from MIT. Which it appears you must be to understand much of the absurd language in the owner's manual. (I remember buying two separate third-party spriral books for my Korg M1 just to explain the basics).

So can anyone help me figure out how to get the drum kits to play? I can play all the pre-recorded patterns (there are 100), but I imagine there must be a way to lay down original drum tracks using the keys. I'm pretty good at figuring out how these consoles work, but I can't for the life of me figure out how to do this. Anyone? Thanks.

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#1438942 - 05/18/10 11:33 AM Re: New stage pianos from Yamaha! [Re: MagicRat]
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I went from a 700gx to cp50 just yesterday...I really like it.

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#1439721 - 05/19/10 12:47 PM Re: New stage pianos from Yamaha! [Re: aDino]
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Greetings, Yamaha aficionados, and others. I've read each post here and now feel I already know some of you, lol. Ordered my CP5 a couple weeks ago. On delayed delivery to the store. The wait is killing me!

My introductory thread:

http://www.pianoworld.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/1439708.html#Post1439708

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#1445396 - 05/28/10 11:37 AM Re: New stage pianos from Yamaha! [Re: R.I.P. Utopians]
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Is it just me, or has the silence has become almost deafening on the CP line? Can't help but wonder if I'm making the right decision.


Edited by R.I.P. Utopians (05/28/10 11:38 AM)

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#1445406 - 05/28/10 12:09 PM Re: New stage pianos from Yamaha! [Re: R.I.P. Utopians]
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Is it just me, or has the silence has become almost deafening on the CP line? Can't help but wonder if I'm making the right decision.

Everyone is over on the RD-700GXF threads. smile
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#1445426 - 05/28/10 12:43 PM Re: New stage pianos from Yamaha! [Re: R.I.P. Utopians]
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Originally Posted By: R.I.P. Utopians
Is it just me, or has the silence has become almost deafening on the CP line? Can't help but wonder if I'm making the right decision.


I'm sure your decision was a good one. thumb
I've not yet had the chance to try the CP5 here in Europe, but am looking forward to when my nearest dealer gets one set up for demo purposes.
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#1445439 - 05/28/10 12:57 PM Re: New stage pianos from Yamaha! [Re: dewster]
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Originally Posted By: dewster
Originally Posted By: R.I.P. Utopians
Is it just me, or has the silence has become almost deafening on the CP line? Can't help but wonder if I'm making the right decision.

Everyone is over on the RD-700GXF threads. smile


Yes. Those beautiful SN sounds aren't helping any. crazy

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#1445445 - 05/28/10 01:02 PM Re: New stage pianos from Yamaha! [Re: Tweedpipe]
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Originally Posted By: R.I.P. Utopians
Is it just me, or has the silence has become almost deafening on the CP line? Can't help but wonder if I'm making the right decision.


I'm sure your decision was a good one. thumb
I've not yet had the chance to try the CP5 here in Europe, but am looking forward to when my nearest dealer gets one set up for demo purposes.
That's just it. There doesn't seem to be a rush to post positive experience with the CP5, (or the CP1 for that matter), and the CP5 reportedly hit the streets a while ago. :crickets:


Edited by R.I.P. Utopians (05/28/10 01:03 PM)

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#1445446 - 05/28/10 01:04 PM Re: New stage pianos from Yamaha! [Re: R.I.P. Utopians]
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I'm excited to try one but need to wait until late June/July before I can commit to a purchase. The 700GXF is certainly in contention and perhaps by the time I'm ready the Casio PX-3 will be available to test out. Still reading all I can about the CP-5

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#1445448 - 05/28/10 01:12 PM Re: New stage pianos from Yamaha! [Re: Zinfan]
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The most positive posts on the CP1/CP5 date to before dewster's squiggly lines and the first purchasers' lament and subsequent returns. Hopefully most of those satisfied with their new CPs are too busy playing them to care about posting here.

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#1445450 - 05/28/10 01:19 PM Re: New stage pianos from Yamaha! [Re: theJourney]
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Did you see the thread 'CP5 ... some thoughts'
http://www.pianoworld.com/forum/ubbthrea...tml#Post1441711

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#1445604 - 05/28/10 06:33 PM CP5 Review [Re: R.I.P. Utopians]
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Originally Posted By: R.I.P. Utopians
Is it just me, or has the silence has become almost deafening on the CP line? Can't help but wonder if I'm making the right decision.


From my own experience, it's a mixed bag. Some good, some bad.

I've had a CP5 here for two weeks. I've spent a lot of time with it, so while I don't know everything, I can get around on it well. I've done a lot of editing, and stored those edits maybe two hundred times or so.

Initially I had a good impression, because as the next generation of the Yamaha CP line, there are some improvements. Smaller profile, lighter weight, better layout regarding output jacks, etc. But then Yamaha Support told me that these CPs are NOT a next generation of anything - they are apparently some kind of branch of the tree all their own. Yamaha wants to keep selling their CP33 and CP300, so they intentionally left off of the new CPs some critical features that the old CPs had.

One in particular is probably going to be a deal breaker for me - the fact that the left/right part volume knobs are only good for controlling internal sounds. I think it is very close to deceptive advertising, because they are in the exact same place as on the CP300 and CP33, they do the exact same things, only they left off the crucial function of being able to assign them to external midi control. The CP stage pianos are minimally capable of being controllers in the first place, so why they would strip them down even more makes no sense, unless it's purely to keep customers buying the earlier models.

The sound of the instrument does not knock me out. I've got other synths and keyboards that sound better - bigger, deeper, fuller, more musical sounds. All of the parameter controls in the world won't make up for a generally smaller less musical sound. I was counting on this thing taking me back to when I had a Rhodes electric piano, and Yamaha marketing has been trumpeting the amazing EPs in it. But to my ear, they are just so-so. Nothing amazing about them. The main piano sample/model is fine, but again, I'm not amazed by it or anything. It's workable in a mix.

The action is lighter than other Yamaha keyboards, which could be a plus, depending on what you like. I've never been a big fan of any Yamaha actions, including their acoustic grands. They are ok, but they always seems heavier than necessary or optimal to me. It's a nice action on the CP5 and CP1, BUT, there are some problems with inconsistent velocity levels from note to note, and I sometimes wonder if this new action they've built is part of the culprit.

The knobs and switches are ok, but nothing to write home about. The small gray plastic knobs seem pretty cheap, but they work ok. The middle large black knobs for editing work well, but as mentioned previously are somewhat worrisome because they could be damaged easily because they stick up pretty far.

Personally, there are enough cons to this new CP5 that I have two other stage pianos coming here in the next few days that I will consider buying instead. I was really pumped to get a new CP5, but for me, the reality does not live up to the hype.

Just for the record, the reality has lived up to the hype for me before, so it can happen. My Bosendorfer piano, Cranesong STC-8 compressor, and GML 8200 EQ all come to mind in that regard. For me, the Yamaha CP5 stage piano is not in their league.

Mychal

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#1445701 - 05/28/10 09:40 PM Re: CP5 Review [Re: Peakly]
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This evening I went down to the local Guitar Center to take a look at the Roland RD-700GX. After playing with it for a while I noticed the CP5 and CP50 sitting there. Amazingly, they were all plugged in and connected to working amps. This was my first time seeing any of these keyboards.

The keys of the CP50 feel like standard plastic Yamaha, which is to say not bad, and the wooden keys of the CP5 are interesting and a bit lighter. I played around with the CP5 and really couldn't figure out what mode it was in. For all the dedicated buttons and knobs and stuff, the interface was beyond my comprehension. Which is kind of strange because I can usually figure interfaces out rather quickly.

The RD on the other hand is pretty simple. Voice selection is pressing a button and spinning the dial, layering happens when you press the part buttons, layer mix is the associated slider, transpose works logically, effects have an on/off button and depth dial - the only thing I didn't get was how to select different patterns for the arpeggiator. Even the drawbar organ is fairly easy to adjust. I'm pretty sure my wife and her students could thrash about on it and come up with useful results.

I hadn't looked at the operating manuals for any of them before I entered the store. IMO Yamaha seriously needs to work on their user interfaces, they are exceedingly and unnecessarily cryptic.
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#1445755 - 05/28/10 11:52 PM Re: CP5 Review [Re: dewster]
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I hadn't looked at the operating manuals for any of them before I entered the store. IMO Yamaha seriously needs to work on their user interfaces, they are exceedingly and unnecessarily cryptic.


I'm glad you finally got a look at the keyboards, but sorry to hear you couldn't get the CP5 up and running. Maybe take a quick look at the manual online and give it another chance when you can. I'd be interested to hear what you think.

Before I try a keyboard, especially a Yamaha, I always check out their manual, because like you said, you have to know their secret codes! I've even written certain key menu things down to take along, because I know once I get in that store with the dude jamming away on the rap sequencer who always seems to be there, I'll forget what the heck I'm doing.

A good thing to do for the CP5 might be to get it into its preset mode, and then just start scrolling through them. There are a lot of dumb ones, but there are some that show the keyboard better. To your left are part buttons and knobs, so you can turn those off and on to hear the stacked parts on the performances they've created. And right in front of you turn off and on the pre-amp, mod-fx, and pwr amp buttons to hear them go on and off. And to look inside their menus, just hold any of those switches down, and you can start scrolling through the different parameters.

I have to tell you, I actually like a lot of how they've laid out the editing part of the keyboard. I got used to it fast once I saw what was going on. But it also revealed what I think is another serious omission on the machine - the inability to copy parts and fx around inside the keyboard. It can take hours to get a decent patch, and it would be very helpful if you could copy and paste that around more freely.

Mychal

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#1445760 - 05/29/10 12:15 AM Re: CP5 Review [Re: Peakly]
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Quote:
...the dude jamming away on the rap sequencer who always seems to be there...


Lol!

While visiting the US on business a few years ago I visited a handful of the large musical instrument chain stores - without fail each one had a chap working on a R&B/hip-hop sequence on a Fantom or Motif.

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#1445862 - 05/29/10 06:24 AM Re: CP5 Review [Re: dewster]
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Originally Posted By: dewster

I hadn't looked at the operating manuals for any of them before I entered the store. I


I always recommend knowing the basics ahead of time, starting with how to do a factory reset.
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#1445872 - 05/29/10 06:54 AM Re: CP5 Review [Re: Melodialworks Music]
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I played around with the CP5 and really couldn't figure out what mode it was in. For all the dedicated buttons and knobs and stuff, the interface was beyond my comprehension. Which is kind of strange because I can usually figure interfaces out rather quickly.

That was also my first impression ... and I've owned the P250 and CP300. It took me about a week of playing with the keyboard and rereading the owner's manual to become fairly comfortable with it.
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#1445890 - 05/29/10 08:19 AM Re: CP5 Review [Re: Kawai James]
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Originally Posted By: Kawai James
While visiting the US on business a few years ago I visited a handful of the large musical instrument chain stores - without fail each one had a chap working on a R&B/hip-hop sequence on a Fantom or Motif.

That's hilarious. In the GC last night there was a guy at a Motif with a canned hip-hop riff on infinite repeat, speakers all the way up. I'm not sure what he was doing, the loop never changed and he seemed to be just sitting there. Luckily for me the DPs were located in a separate DP room. There was a little kid in there playing some built-in rhythms and dancing around, but he was no match for my sealed headphones.
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#1445903 - 05/29/10 09:17 AM Re: CP5 Review [Re: Peakly]
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...sorry to hear you couldn't get the CP5 up and running. Maybe take a quick look at the manual online and give it another chance when you can.

I normally prepare for these things, but it was a spur-of-the-moment trip. I wanted to be out of the house for a couple of hours while my wife was giving a group class, so I figured, what the heck, go hit the GC and check out the RD.

On the CP, every time I played a key a automatic rhythm would start and I'd have to hit the stop button. Pressing the bank buttons changed the voice, but not to what I expected. There were strange characters on the little blue display that looked like Klingon. I was completely baffled. It's a little too much like our Motif rack unit, where, even with the manual in front of me, I'm never really sure what I'm doing, and I'm constantly scolded by the LCD to not turn the unit off while it's busy doing something or other (writing to flash I presume, rather hair-raising).

I'll give it another go when my wife demos the RD, but I'm looking through the manual right now and getting an instant headache.

For example, here is the text introducing the EXIT/jump to edit button:

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[EXIT/jump to edit] button (pages 21, 34) Press this button to return to the Performance screen from the parameter setting screen for the currently selected block (page 31), from the Utility screen, or from the File screen. Furthermore, by pressing the [PRE-AMP] button, the [MODFX] button, the [PWR-AMP] button, the [REVERB] button, the [MASTER COMPRESSOR] button, or a part button while holding down the [EXIT/jump to edit] button, you can jump directly to the corresponding parameter setting screen. You can also press the [STORE/ASSIGN] button while holding down the [EXIT/jump to edit] button to call up the screen for assigning parameters to Knobs 1 to 3.

Who in their right mind would make a button as basic and essential as the exit button do anything but exit? And the store button should never, ever be touched unless you want to store something, period. But pressing both of these essential / scary buttons at the same time and in a particular way inexplicably takes you to a screen where you can assign functions to the knobs? It's like there's some kind of UI obfuscation contest going on in the Yamaha software lab.


Edited by dewster (05/29/10 11:58 AM)
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#1445941 - 05/29/10 10:22 AM Re: CP5 Review [Re: dewster]
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Who in their right mind would make a button as basic and essential as the exit button do anything but exit? And the store button should never, ever be touched unless you want to store something, period. But pressing both of these essential / scary buttons at the same time inexplicably takes you to a screen where you can assign functions to the knobs? It's like there's some kind of UI obfuscation contest going on in the Yamaha software lab.
User interface design isn't easy, and they often get it VERY wrong. There are plenty of good guidelines to work from. Yet designers commit the same atrocious errors time after time. Sux, dunit?

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#1445951 - 05/29/10 10:35 AM Re: CP5 Review [Re: MacMacMac]
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Sometimes I think it is due to cultural differences. What may be intuitive in one country may not be in another.
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#1445963 - 05/29/10 10:59 AM Re: CP5 Review [Re: Melodialworks Music]
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Sometimes I think it is due to cultural differences. What may be intuitive in one country may not be in another.

If it's 100% cultural then I probably shouldn't visit Japan. I'd likely be found dead after a botched attempt at flushing the toilet.
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#1446016 - 05/29/10 11:59 AM CP5 Easy Startup [Re: dewster]
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If it's 100% cultural then I probably shouldn't visit Japan. I'd likely be found dead after a botched attempt at flushing the toilet.


lol!



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In the GC last night there was a guy at a Motif with a canned hip-hop riff on infinite repeat, speakers all the way up. I'm not sure what he was doing, the loop never changed and he seemed to be just sitting there.


Unbelievable. That guy travels state to state, and manages to hit every Guitar Center. I don't know how he does it.

Dewster, I never bother with those "shortcuts" where you're asked to hold one button and hit another. That's too much crap to remember. Usually you don't need those kind of ridiculous combinations.

Once you get the hang of it, the way they've written the architecture is a nice marriage of hardware and software. When you sit in front of it, up to your right theres a button that says Pre (preset). Press that and choose green (there are three colors, because there are three groups of presets). Press the Bank button below it so it's on Bank A. Three lights will be blinking, but they will all stop blinking after this next step.

There are ten numbered buttons just to the left of the preset button. Those are the performances (patches/programs). Press number one. The three lights should stop blinking, and you are at CP5 performance number one, their 9' grand piano. Number two is the 6' grand. And so on. Every time you change presets or banks, everything will flash until you hit one of those ten numbered buttons.

If you get one of those drum beat presets going, just to the left of the big black knobs is a button that says Sync Start. That will stop the sequencer.

To the left of that you'll see the reverb, fx, power amps, etc. Hold those buttons down for a second and their menus will open up. Off to the left are the part buttons. There can be up to four parts, so turn those buttons on and off and play with their volume knobs to hear other sounds stacked on top of the main sound.

To exit any step, press the Exit button, which is just to the right of the bottom right corner of the screen.

I'd be interested to know what you think of the action. It's probably my favorite part of the keyboard, plus the size and weight. It's not too big or heavy for me - I can move it around by myself in a pinch, but the CP300 - ouch!

Mychal


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#1446060 - 05/29/10 01:08 PM Re: CP5 Easy Startup [Re: Peakly]
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Thanks Mychal! I'll print out your instructions and take them with me to the GC.
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#1446080 - 05/29/10 01:49 PM Re: CP5 Easy Startup [Re: dewster]
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Also, don't forget that pressing some buttons for more than one second opens up other editing possibilities. To quickly edit the current voice, press the already lit button under, say, Right 1, for one second and then you are in edit mode.

When you press, say, Right 1, for one second, the lights under 1,2,3, etc., will light up and by pressing those associated buttons you can quickly edit parameters of that voice. I've found this the fastest way to get around.
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#1446724 - 05/30/10 04:58 PM Re: CP5 Easy Startup [Re: Dave Horne]
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I will chime in here..have had the 50 for a few weeks now and have used it in quite a few different musical situations....It is turning out to be a very good board. I may have preferred the 5, but due to needing a lighter board, and trying out everything in the weight range, I got the 50.
Pro's..great to play, especially in jazz situations, like the action, its 1 thing to listen to a dp in a music store or thru phones, but you dont know its true worth until u have it out and working it thru the paces...The main piano sound is very nice and doesnt get thin in louder situations..comments Ive gotten from a few of the groups I freelance w/on a regular basis is they thought the piano sound was better than my previous board..the soundmen Ive worked w/lately said they thought it sounded very good foh..
Ive heard negative comments regarding the roads patchs..I like them, #5 sound for jazz n funk, 9 or 10 for pop stuff..the action, I can be rythmic on the board..if that makes sense to you..

The other sounds, decent clavs, usable, much more so than my prev board...the organs are just ok, not a strong suit at all, brass, there are 2 of them usable, again nothing great, may have to pick up a module, then again, I use mainly ap/roads sounds, so they may suffice...Strings arent bad...

1 thing I do not like is the fact that some of the patches have rythym built into the patchs..very silly..if your looking for sounds or need to call something up quick in the middle of a tune and you dont notice the rythym lite blinking away, well, its a shocker, especially if your running foh, really freaked out the soundman last nite...Is there a way to defeat that?
I never use that feature, so I would like it off...all the time....Its also a bit confusing the way the banks are setup, and doesnt lend itself to quick changes, again in the middle of tunes..

Aside from those things, its a nice little axe, is sooo much easier to move than my previous board, plays well and sounds good in all of the contexts Ive used it in so far...I think its the best pro board I could get in that price and weight range...

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#1449700 - 06/03/10 06:28 PM Re: CP5 Easy Startup [Re: aDino]
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I have 3 new stage pianos here to try. All 3 are Yamahas. I've got the CP33, CP300, and CP5. If I tell you which one I'm liking the most, regardless of cost, you'll think I'm nuts. I'm talking about action, sound, ergonomics, the whole thing. I'm really liking how it fits in with the sound of the band too.

That's right, the 33. Small but mighty. I'm really getting attached to that thing. Go ahead, tell me I'm crazy.

Mychal

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#1449818 - 06/03/10 10:45 PM Re: CP5 Easy Startup [Re: Peakly]
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The CP33's got a lot going for it. I really like the layout, the mod and pitch wheels, the lack of speakers, the vast expanse of flatness. It just screams no nonsense stage piano.
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#1449928 - 06/04/10 02:46 AM Re: CP5 Easy Startup [Re: dewster]
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Originally Posted By: dewster
The CP33's got a lot going for it. I really like the layout, the mod and pitch wheels, the lack of speakers, the vast expanse of flatness. It just screams no nonsense stage piano.


Exactly. I had one shipped here on a whim, along with the other two CPs. I like that there is no bs about it. I've heard it's too light and plasticy, but I don't get that at all. It's tight, trim, and it plays great. The action seems more refined and developed than the CP5, and the editing is to the point and covers just enough.

The sound is what surprised me most though. There are a couple EPs on there that to my ear are better than the new CPs. And it's so cool to be able to pick it up and carry it myself.

Mychal

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#1449936 - 06/04/10 03:25 AM Re: CP5 Easy Startup [Re: Peakly]
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Originally Posted By: Peakly
The sound of the instrument does not knock me out. I've got other synths and keyboards that sound better - bigger, deeper, fuller, more musical sounds. All of the parameter controls in the world won't make up for a generally smaller less musical sound. I was counting on this thing taking me back to when I had a Rhodes electric piano, and Yamaha marketing has been trumpeting the amazing EPs in it. But to my ear, they are just so-so. Nothing amazing about them. The main piano sample/model is fine, but again, I'm not amazed by it or anything. It's workable in a mix.

Thanks Mychal. I've read all your posts on the CP5, here and over at that other place. Your above point interests me most. Someone, maybe you, also said the sound is thin. I'm very curious if this smaller sound is true with the APs as well the EPs?

Funny thing, after listening to YouTube samples of the RD-700GX with RD-700GX1 SuperNATURAL Piano Kit posted by dewster, (and some real pianos like the Yamaha U2), then going back to the CP5 AP samples, there just seems to be something missing. Something not full about the sound. I got the same feeling listening to the RD-700GX w/o SuperNatural. I'm no sound engineer, but the samples I'm hearing have what feel to me like an almost linear quality to them. I wondered if it was not something about the sympathetic string resonance. Then I dig up dewsters DP BSD on the CP1 APs and read of surprisingly short sample lengths and "echoy and reverby" quality to the sympathetic string resonance, and I start to think maybe there is a rational basis for my negative feeling.

I was interested in the CP5 because I liked the solid state retro look to it, the digital interface looks organized, it doesn't look "high tech" and ridiculous with an embarrassment of controls that most EPs have, it has wooden keys which I think are sexy, it's within my budget, and, well, because it's Yamaha and I wanted a keyboard I'd grow into. I got caught up in the hype too I suppose. Well, I've gotten such cold feet now I'm thinking about calling my music store and seeing if I can cancel the order and still get my down payment back, and order a different keyboard, likely the Roland RD-700GXF or maybe even a Nord Piano 88.

I don't have the luxury of sampling keyboards in person so I'm going by intuition about what I read and hear. I know. This is really bugging me.


Edited by R.I.P. Utopians (06/04/10 03:47 AM)

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