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#1450507 - 06/04/10 10:22 PM Piano challenge
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I challenge you to play these songs, record them, and post them. (I wrote all of these songs)

The written score is in all of the details to the videos as well.

Here's the first song. I wouldn't say it's hard, but I'd be impressed and excited to see someone play it for real.
Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzDLD6kdTTw
Sheet music: http://www.noteflight.com/scores/view/6fff5e93ce19b6251a7f73258fb788cee2a53e8f

Here's the second one. Very hard, but not purposefully impossible.
video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKE5qrxRpFg
Sheet music: http://www.noteflight.com/scores/view/8732a488bb61475f243f97084ecea006234c9e46

Third one, everybody's favorite:
video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM5ClDAU9Sw
Sheet music: http://www.noteflight.com/scores/view/a58e1610957f3c8bf138725bdcab78c638c3dc3c

All the sheet music can be printed out. It's under file → print
It can also be read from any other music reader thing. You just have to export it as a midi file.

The other ones on my channel are just for fun if you want to learn them grin


Edited by Hayden Brooks (06/05/10 02:28 PM)
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#1450509 - 06/04/10 10:24 PM Re: Piano challenge [Re: Hayden Brooks]
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Here's how to motivate us to do it:
Make it a "competition." smile
Cash prizes not necessary. ha

P.S. Listened to the first one....sounds pretty cool.
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#1450510 - 06/04/10 10:24 PM Re: Piano challenge [Re: Mark_C]
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First to do it wins!
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#1450516 - 06/04/10 10:39 PM Re: Piano challenge [Re: Hayden Brooks]
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Another way to motivate us: present it as a written score. I wouldn't know how to learn it from your format.
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#1450517 - 06/04/10 10:42 PM Re: Piano challenge [Re: gooddog]
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There is a written score. Just read the details. The written score is in there, they're at noteflight.
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#1450521 - 06/04/10 10:51 PM Re: Piano challenge [Re: Hayden Brooks]
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Oh, sorry. I overlooked it.
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#1450523 - 06/04/10 10:55 PM Re: Piano challenge [Re: gooddog]
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Don't sweat it, I'll just include it into the main post as well.
Will anybody answer the call?!
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#1450531 - 06/04/10 11:35 PM Re: Piano challenge [Re: Hayden Brooks]
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I like the second one best, but the Noteflight score displays as a single 100-measure line instead of wrapping. If I had 8.5x50" printer paper, perhaps I could print it in landscape mode. :-)

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#1450536 - 06/04/10 11:38 PM Re: Piano challenge [Re: MathGuy]
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You can change that.
It's under view.
I'm sorry there's all these technicalities, but you can smile
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#1450542 - 06/04/10 11:50 PM Re: Piano challenge [Re: Hayden Brooks]
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These don't look like solo piano pieces to me. Even disregarding the drum parts. Leaving aside whether they are worth bothering with, am I missing something?

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#1450545 - 06/04/10 11:56 PM Re: Piano challenge [Re: wdot]
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What do you mean? They're too hard, or not hard enough? Or do you mean that they look like multiple people should be playing them?
Rockarandy is based on a rock song, so it's definitely not supposed to be alone, Classically atonal and Toccata in C minor are.
Admittedly there are some extra octaves in some of them to make them sound better, but they are for the most part 100% playable. Maybe get rid of some of the extraneous two octave trills.


Edited by Hayden Brooks (06/04/10 11:58 PM)
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#1450546 - 06/04/10 11:59 PM Re: Piano challenge [Re: Hayden Brooks]
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Originally Posted By: Hayden Brooks
Don't sweat it, I'll just include it into the main post as well.
Will anybody answer the call?!

I think you should be totally happy with people just listening to it. smile
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#1450548 - 06/05/10 12:04 AM Re: Piano challenge [Re: Mark_C]
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Yeah, that's sorta true, but sorta embarrassing. I just think it would be really really cool to have someone play one of my songs.
I only really became a member so that I could post these songs for you guys to play, because I would have figured that you guys would have wanted to learn new songs. The answering the call was just being facetious.
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#1450549 - 06/05/10 12:05 AM Re: Piano challenge [Re: Hayden Brooks]
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Each of them seem to have parts that are physically impossible for one person to play. As a Duet yes its probably possible, but some parts in the songs just wouldn't work.

All of them still look fairly challenging. Kinda catchy tunes too.
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#1450550 - 06/05/10 12:07 AM Re: Piano challenge [Re: Brandon_W_T]
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Originally Posted By: Brandon_W_T
Each of them seem to have parts that are physically impossible for one person to play. As a Duet yes its probably possible, but some parts in the songs just wouldn't work.

All of them still look fairly challenging. Kinda catchy tunes too.


Yes yes. But the second and third songs are totally playable... I can play them. The only thing is that there are some octaves that don't need to be played.
I would post me playing them, but I don't have a video camera.
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#1450552 - 06/05/10 12:11 AM Re: Piano challenge [Re: Hayden Brooks]
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Originally Posted By: Hayden Brooks
...I only really became a member so that I could post these songs for you guys to play, because I would have figured that you guys would have wanted to learn new songs.....

Maybe I'm wrong but I think you have way too high an expectation of what's likely to happen on a discussion site.

Especially if you're a newcomer, you're way lucky if people just look and listen to your music.

And BTW I think you're doing great with that so far. The only thing that's not A+ is your expectations. smile
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#1450555 - 06/05/10 12:22 AM Re: Piano challenge [Re: Mark_C]
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Well thanks. I figured all I have to do is keep it as the front thing under piano corner smile
Like I'm doing.
Those aren't really my expectations; they're my hopes smile
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#1450567 - 06/05/10 01:10 AM Re: Piano challenge [Re: Hayden Brooks]
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Originally Posted By: Hayden Brooks
.....Those aren't really my expectations; they're my hopes smile

Good distinction. smile
I actually wondered a little whether to say "hopes" or "expectations" in that post. ha
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#1450571 - 06/05/10 01:23 AM Re: Piano challenge [Re: Mark_C]
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Well... Facetious answers are wrongly received.
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#1450579 - 06/05/10 01:31 AM Re: Piano challenge [Re: Hayden Brooks]
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Huh.......which one do you think was facetious?
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#1450587 - 06/05/10 01:47 AM Re: Piano challenge [Re: Mark_C]
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Who will answer the call?!
That was.
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#1450614 - 06/05/10 03:59 AM Re: Piano challenge [Re: Hayden Brooks]
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Originally Posted By: Hayden Brooks
I challenge you to play these songs, record them, and post them. (I wrote all of these songs)


I'm not much into the song repertoire, since I don't sing.




Edited by wr (06/05/10 03:59 AM)

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#1450618 - 06/05/10 04:33 AM Re: Piano challenge [Re: wr]
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Kinda neat pieces (on this forum we usually don't call them songs - people sing songs), fun to listen to. But I don't feel like bothering to learn them.
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#1450756 - 06/05/10 11:33 AM Re: Piano challenge [Re: Bart Kinlein]
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-sigh-
You guys are real picky. Whatever, pieces of music then. One of them is a toccata, one of them is an instrumental rock 'piece', and one of them is a highly chromatic piece.
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#1450779 - 06/05/10 12:26 PM Re: Piano challenge [Re: Hayden Brooks]
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Instead of blabbing about the music and the website he used, you guys could actually try to learn it... smile

Is there a time limit?
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#1450783 - 06/05/10 12:40 PM Re: Piano challenge [Re: jesseoffy]
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I'm thinking that the best performer wins. Maybe time will be a factor, i.e. If you do it in one day, and it's okay, and someone else does it in a couple weeks and it's pretty good, the first one would win. But if the second person did it, and it sounded really good, he might win. Both will be in consideration. That first song though, I might have to say you might need a 2 track to cover because it was made for 2 piano players to play.

I think I might add that if this goes well, I have many more songs to post for this contest as well.


Edited by Hayden Brooks (06/05/10 12:49 PM)
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#1450789 - 06/05/10 12:59 PM Re: Piano challenge [Re: jesseoffy]
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Originally Posted By: JesseOffy
Instead of blabbing about the music and the website he used, you guys could actually try to learn it... smile

So, why not you? ha
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#1450792 - 06/05/10 01:01 PM Re: Piano challenge [Re: Mark_C]
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I am gonna try and learn it.
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#1450794 - 06/05/10 01:02 PM Re: Piano challenge [Re: jesseoffy]
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Originally Posted By: JesseOffy
I am gonna try and learn it.

-cheer-
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#1450795 - 06/05/10 01:03 PM Re: Piano challenge [Re: Hayden Brooks]
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Well I look forward to that too.
Really!

Not just to see how he does, but to see if anyone actually does go ahead and learn it.
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#1450800 - 06/05/10 01:07 PM Re: Piano challenge [Re: Mark_C]
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Why don't you learn some of them, Mark? It'll be something to do, it'll be fun, I promise smile
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#1450801 - 06/05/10 01:07 PM Re: Piano challenge [Re: Mark_C]
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It all depends on how much spare time we have... got about an hour to waste starting now. :P
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#1450803 - 06/05/10 01:08 PM Re: Piano challenge [Re: Hayden Brooks]
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I'm so sorry but I don't get this. I hope this doesn't get off really rude...

First of all, your scores lack many details which might make them enjoyable for someone to play. Details about the tempo, the dynamics, etc. A performer shoudln't be forced to play whatever comes out of a sequencer by ear and with a help of a bad score.

Then, the "win" part and the "challenge" part. If there is a wining part there also needs to be a prize. For example, when I was looking for a performer for a piano piece of mine, I piad 400$ to the person who decide to go for it. When I was organising competitions at a website I was an admin, I always had sponsors with prizes of 500-600$ or so on, for the winner. An incentive to take part. If you are unknown, and you are not providing at least something to work with, I don't really understand what you are expecting.

In all honesty I wouldn't expect anyone to bother. As someone else said, be happy that some had a listen... And keep trying to improve in every possible angle of life. smile
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#1450806 - 06/05/10 01:11 PM Re: Piano challenge [Re: Nikolas]
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Cool, Nikolas -- now he'll feel I was being nice!! ha
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#1450810 - 06/05/10 01:15 PM Re: Piano challenge [Re: Nikolas]
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@Nikolas
It's not really a competition, I just said it would be fun. Sure the score lacks items that say what speed to go by, what feeling to have, but in my mind, that makes it all the more fun; you get to choose. I'd pick who ever interprets the piece the best as a winner (Time considered).
As for the competition part, it's not really a competition, and I'm not trying to get someone to perform it for something, it's just for fun. I don't know, maybe you don't like fun anymore. The 'winner' will just be who I say is the winner. You do not need to listen to the piece at all, if you wish, you could just go by the sheet music, and think of the best feeling to it for yourself.
I am glad though that there are people listening to the pieces, but why not try to get someone to learn it? I just think it would be cool.
Again, I'm not expecting anybody to play it, but I was hoping that someone would play it, for just the experience of knowing a different song.
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#1450812 - 06/05/10 01:16 PM Re: Piano challenge [Re: Mark_C]
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Yeah... what the hell is that middle g and upper d note at the same time on the third piece (I think). We aren't all Rachmaninoff's. laugh

Also, is there any way to download it?
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#1450815 - 06/05/10 01:21 PM Re: Piano challenge [Re: jesseoffy]
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Originally Posted By: JesseOffy
We aren't all Rachmaninoff's. laugh

Also, is there any way to download it?


As for the big hands stuff, you can choose to leave out a note if you want, or move one up an octave, but yes there's a way to download it. You can print out the scores grin
It's under file → print. If you don't want to do that, you can export it as a midi file, and save it to whatever you want it to be one (i.e. Finale, Sibelius etc.).
That's under file → export → midi file
Then you would have to take the midi file and put it into [insert music notation system here].
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#1450871 - 06/05/10 03:07 PM Re: Piano challenge [Re: Hayden Brooks]
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I dont want to see **** synthesia stuff on this forum and this piece of musics are completely garbage! waste of time. If you are too stubborn dont accept my criticism and complain me to admins.


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#1450886 - 06/05/10 03:27 PM Re: Piano challenge [Re: Batuhan]
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I just learned it and played it. It was awesome.

Too bad I don't have a camera! ;-)
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#1450895 - 06/05/10 03:40 PM Re: Piano challenge [Re: Batuhan]
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Originally Posted By: Batuhan
I dont want to see shitty synthesia stuff on this forum and this piece of musics are completely garbage! waste of time. If you are too stubborn dont accept my criticism and complain me to admins.

1: That wasn't very nice :P
2: they're not only on Synthesia; I posted them on there because I think they sound better
3: I didn't ever not accept your criticism; this is the first thing you posted on this thread o.O
4: I can accept criticism. If you don't like the piece, that's great, not everybody will or has to.
5: Maybe you should work on your English smile
Turkish music is pretty good, and so I can see why you wouldn't like the pieces since Turkish music has a completely different feel.
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#1450924 - 06/05/10 04:24 PM Re: Piano challenge [Re: Hayden Brooks]
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It wasn't criticism... here's some: Add dynamics. I tell all my friends that dynamics are what turn notes into music. wink

Also, there are a few instances that could use grace notes instead of a pile of notes and ties... and always keep playability in mind (like the notes I mentioned before.)
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#1450927 - 06/05/10 04:27 PM Re: Piano challenge [Re: Hayden Brooks]
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Originally Posted By: Hayden Brooks
@Nikolas
It's not really a competition, I just said it would be fun. Sure the score lacks items that say what speed to go by, what feeling to have, but in my mind, that makes it all the more fun; you get to choose. I'd pick who ever interprets the piece the best as a winner (Time considered).
hmmm... you got me there I think! laugh

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As for the competition part, it's not really a competition, and I'm not trying to get someone to perform it for something, it's just for fun. I don't know, maybe you don't like fun anymore. The 'winner' will just be who I say is the winner. You do not need to listen to the piece at all, if you wish, you could just go by the sheet music, and think of the best feeling to it for yourself.
Well, you got me there too. Because I kinda thought that you were just trying to get people to perform your music for free... and used the worst possible method for this.

As for the fun comment, I have to admit that it's not my kind of fun to be feeling that I'm being taking for an idiot. Maybe I read into this too much, but all this challenge to see you in youtube (signature refernece) and challenge this, challenge that. It feels like a moronic kind of dare bait: "Do you dare to play my music?" NO! Cause I don't think you're asking nicely at all, plus I can't say I enjoyed your music.

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I am glad though that there are people listening to the pieces, but why not try to get someone to learn it? I just think it would be cool.
Again, I'm not expecting anybody to play it, but I was hoping that someone would play it, for just the experience of knowing a different song.
Yes, of course, I have this feeling connstantly and this is why I offer sometimes my scores as well! Really simple. It's nice and cool to get your music played, but you have to also consider what the other end is getting. If they are, indeed, getting fun, then by all means. But if you are trying to lure them with silly challenges and all that... :-/
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#1450929 - 06/05/10 04:28 PM Re: Piano challenge [Re: jesseoffy]
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Originally Posted By: JesseOffy
I tell all my friends that dynamics are what turn notes into music. wink

keep playability in mind (like the notes I mentioned before.)

Yes, I changed the third piece's (Toccata in C minor) super big leap, and took the bottom note up an octave, so that's playable now.
I suppose I could put some dynamics in there... Or... Some more dynamics. smile
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#1450934 - 06/05/10 04:36 PM Re: Piano challenge [Re: Nikolas]
Hayden Brooks Offline
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Originally Posted By: Nikolas

you used the worst possible method for this.

Cause I don't think you're asking nicely at all, plus I can't say I enjoyed your music.

but you have to also consider what the other end is getting. But if you are trying to lure them with silly challenges and all that... :-/

Well, for the first part, I would never try to do that laugh I'm not that stupid.
The second part, I may not be asking in a 'nice' manner depending on the way you read it; since I'm not saying it in person, you can't tell the tone which would be a sort of playful tone.
The silly challenges are just one of those things. Some people may want them i.e. first comment, or some people may not like them i.e. you.
Either way, I mean no insult to this community. I apologize if my message was ill-received.
I would just be so happy if someone played it, but I didn't want to post, "Does anybody want to play this piece?" I figured that would sound real boring, and I'm sure you see my dilemma.
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#1450936 - 06/05/10 04:39 PM Re: Piano challenge [Re: Hayden Brooks]
Batuhan Offline
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Originally Posted By: Hayden Brooks
Originally Posted By: Batuhan
I dont want to see shitty synthesia stuff on this forum and this piece of musics are completely garbage! waste of time. If you are too stubborn dont accept my criticism and complain me to admins.

1: That wasn't very nice :P
2: they're not only on Synthesia; I posted them on there because I think they sound better
3: I didn't ever not accept your criticism; this is the first thing you posted on this thread o.O
4: I can accept criticism. If you don't like the piece, that's great, not everybody will or has to.
5: Maybe you should work on your English smile
Turkish music is pretty good, and so I can see why you wouldn't like the pieces since Turkish music has a completely different feel.


I hate turkish music english is not my nature language if you understand me and there is no problem between us grammar dont matter.
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#1450950 - 06/05/10 05:17 PM Re: Piano challenge [Re: Batuhan]
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Originally Posted By: Batuhan

between us grammar dont matter.


LOL. Apparently not.
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#1450952 - 06/05/10 05:22 PM Re: Piano challenge [Re: Hayden Brooks]
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Originally Posted By: Hayden Brooks
@Nikolas
I just said it would be fun.


Playing bad music is never fun. The music posted is awful. What is the point of playing bad music like that?

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#1450986 - 06/05/10 07:09 PM Re: Piano challenge [Re: Phlebas]
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What just happened? Has anyone noticed?

The OP is new to PW and should be welcomed.
He wanted us to try some of his music.
He asked politely.
Several responded politely.
Suddenly the tone of a few posters became nasty.
The OP responded politely and graciously accepted criticism.
Posters got nastier.
He stayed polite.

Hayden Brooks sounds like an okay guy who might have something to add to PW. He's new. Why is he being jumped on? I have been under the impression that this is not an elitist forum.
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#1451103 - 06/05/10 10:55 PM Re: Piano challenge [Re: gooddog]
Nikolas Offline
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I don't know if this is refering to me but anyways, my take to your comments.
Originally Posted By: gooddog
What just happened? Has anyone noticed?

The OP is new to PW and should be welcomed.
Yes, this is true. He wasn't exactly welcomed.

Quote:
He wanted us to try some of his music.
He asked politely.
Maybe it's a European vs USA thing, but I hardly found his manner polite. He didn't want us to try his music, but wanted to challenge us, reward us with his choice of the best performer/ance and so on.
Quote:
Several responded politely.
True.
Quote:
Suddenly the tone of a few posters became nasty.
I don't think I became nasty, but certainly I was not nice. I do think I stayed in the edge of being polite.
Quote:
The OP responded politely and graciously accepted criticism.
Yes and no. He has stayed completely polite (although I have been accused of not having fun, or knowing what fun is anymore, etc... but anyway). He did stick to his idea of promoting his music in this manner and way.
Quote:
Posters got nastier.
True frown
Quote:
He stayed polite.

Hayden Brooks sounds like an okay guy who might have something to add to PW. He's new. Why is he being jumped on? I have been under the impression that this is not an elitist forum.
I do hope this forum stays as it is, perhaps a tiny bit under moderated, but anyway, certainly not an elitist forum. I also hope that it is clear that my 'grip' is not with a guy who I have no idea who he is, so this is not personal, nor about the quality of his music (although I did provide a few points and ideas. Had he backed up his idea of no dynamics or tempo, maybe I would've accepted this, but he didn't). It was about this promotion of challenging YOU (me) and YOU (you) and everyone to listen, to perform, to win (what?). And this has been repeated adlib, even in his signature.

Again, this could be my grip with such an (apparently) aggressive marketing strategy (marketing and aggressive are both used to explain, though things are not as strong...).
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#1451144 - 06/05/10 11:57 PM Re: Piano challenge [Re: stores]
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Originally Posted By: stores
Originally Posted By: Batuhan

between us grammar dont matter.

LOL. Apparently not.

That's right! He forgot the apostrophe!! ha
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#1451145 - 06/05/10 11:59 PM Re: Piano challenge [Re: jesseoffy]
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Originally Posted By: JesseOffy
It wasn't criticism... here's some: Add dynamics. I tell all my friends that dynamics are what turn notes into music. wink


Tell that to Bach! laugh
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#1451147 - 06/06/10 12:01 AM Re: Piano challenge [Re: Phlebas]
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Originally Posted By: Phlebas
.....The music posted is awful.....

C'mon! smile
It might not be your style (and it's not the kind of thing I'd play or learn), but awful it ain't.
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#1451149 - 06/06/10 12:02 AM Re: Piano challenge [Re: Nikolas]
Mark_C Offline
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Originally Posted By: Nikolas
.....He wasn't exactly welcomed....

Sure he was, by some of us.
He was by me. I gave him a little bit of a hard time (in fun) about how he expected us to play the piece, but I was glad to have him here, and welcomed him, and so did others.
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#1451154 - 06/06/10 12:15 AM Re: Piano challenge [Re: Mark_C]
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He wasn't by me, so: Welcome mate! Enjoy your time here. I do hope we haven't scared you away. Stick around, learn, teach, give and take. That's what the internet forums are about... wink
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#1451438 - 06/06/10 03:36 PM Re: Piano challenge [Re: Nikolas]
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Thank you Nikolas; I'm sorry if you don't like my marketing ploy, but I think it worked for the most part. In consideration that it may not be 'polite' to challenge someone to play a piece, but I had to think of a way to get people to be interested. I feel as though if I had posted "Could someone please play my songs?" that it would not be appreciated much. The only reason I didn't post it that way is because I don't think it would get any more people to listen to the music (Which is truely my goal), but I'd still get the same amount of people that don't like the music.
I don't care if people don't like my music; not everybody can like something, no matter how good it is. I don't like Chopin, but I don't go on 'everything Chopin' and post "This music is garbage!". I was expecting more people to dislike my music, and so I am quite pleased at the way this worked so far. Thank you Mark C, I don't think you realize how appreciative I am for you defending me! grin
@Kuanpiano Ha ha ha! Nice.
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#1451448 - 06/06/10 03:56 PM Re: Piano challenge [Re: Hayden Brooks]
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Hayden, I think you should apologize to this forum. You've admitted that this was a marketing ploy, yes - but more disappointing, from the beginning of this thread, your tone has not been respectful, but completely condescending.

Your 'ploy' (as you yourself call it) has been embarrassingly transparent! It's been awkward to read. I never thought I would feel awkward just reading on an internet forum.

The alternative does not have to be "Could someone please play my songs?". Why not just post them and mention that the scores are available and that you'd be excited to support anyone who would like to play the pieces? You might be surprised at the response, who knows.

Finally, I have a challenge for YOU! Step one: go to your bank. Step two: withdraw 1000 dollars. Step three: send it to me.

C'mon it'll be fun! wink
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#1451457 - 06/06/10 04:15 PM Re: Piano challenge [Re: charleslang]
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Alright. I'm not coming back after this post.
I didn't mean to be 'awkward'. I'm not apologizing to this forum. I'm sorry if you don't want to do it. I don't care. I'm not giving you 1000 dollars. Think of this from my perspective. Do you really think that this is the first time I've ever done this? No. Maybe you misinterpreted my message. Perhaps you don't understand that I was just trying to be nice and have fun.
I told you already repeatedly that it's not really a contest. I just wanted people to interested in the first place.
I tried being nice, but a lot of you are just being jerks. I don't care any more. I don't feel like this is a great community. None of you are very nice, except for Mark and some others.
Seriously, what's the point of some of those posts? They are only to insult me. Maybe because I'm new? Maybe it's because I'm polite. I don't know. All I know is that I don't like you guys enough to actually accept your 'criticism' (Which is really just a bunch of comments to try and make me feel bad).
It doesn't work to post a song, and say that someone can play it; they never do.
You all are remarkably elitist, and stuck up. (That's the first thing I've said insulting that wasn't joking)
I was going join if you guys would stop being such jerks.
Maybe marketing was the wrong word. All I was trying to do was to get you guys to listen to the song, but screw it. I'm bored of you guys. You don't appreciate my efforts at all. Goodbye.
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#1451467 - 06/06/10 04:52 PM Re: Piano challenge [Re: Hayden Brooks]
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I can only see very few 'jerk' posts, and a few more perhaps negative. My posts have been negative, but I seriously doubt there was any insluting point, or even rude as a matter of fact.

I will repeat again, that apart from a small paragraph about the lack of dynamics, tempo, etc, which seems that you forgot, rather than you chose to emmit, there was no other critisism about you or your music, but about your approach here. Forgive me (us) if we think we have a right to care about this forum.

Communication goes both ways and it could very well be that you're sending out the wrong messages, instead of us misinterpreting.

My very sincere and kind and nice suggestion (to all I guess): Let's forget about this thread. Hayden has some music and I'm pretty sure that he would like to share it with us (like some many have done in the past, including me). There's no reason for further discussion or anything else (like appologizing for example). I just hope he got the whole idea: Internet if about getting and giving at the same time (and all bundled with a nice presentation if possible...) smile

If you love piano, or music in more general, stick around. There's hardly another place like this, and believe me, the people here are extremely kind and well tempered! (I mean check youtube/myspace comments for example... Atrocious for the most part).
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#1451471 - 06/06/10 04:59 PM Re: Piano challenge [Re: gooddog]
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Question:
Originally Posted By: gooddog
What just happened? Has anyone noticed?


Answer:
Quote:
I'm sorry if you don't like my marketing ploy, but I think it worked for the most part.


Nikolas, you're right of course. Stick around Hayden.


Edited by Phlebas (06/06/10 05:01 PM)

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#1451480 - 06/06/10 05:20 PM Re: Piano challenge [Re: Hayden Brooks]
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Originally Posted By: Hayden Brooks
....I tried being nice, but a lot of you are just being jerks. I don't care any more. I don't feel like this is a great community. None of you are very nice, except for Mark and some others....

Thanks, but I can't quite accept the compliment. Almost everyone here is 'very nice.' Things just got off on a bad foot on this.

The way you approached us was unusual and seemed presumptuous. Since I was pretty sure you were basically okay (and still am), I thought it was best just to have fun with that and sort of trash-talk you a little about it, but still basically to welcome you here -- and that's still what I think.

I don't know if you've been on other discussion sites. I would guess not -- or at least not very much. In case you don't realize it, the fact is that you can't expect people to do stuff "for" you when you first come. You have to establish yourself -- and even then, people may or may not do it. That's just how it is. People come here mainly to "talk," and to "read," and to "listen." They don't come here to be given assignments. Once you're a known person -- well then, maybe.

I hope you won't just leave. But regardless, I hope you'll be able to understand what really happened here. This site is indeed mostly people who are quite nice, and quite willing to support and be interested in one another.

P.S. Glad to see that Nikolas said sort of the same thing.


Edited by Mark_C (06/06/10 05:22 PM)
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#1451501 - 06/06/10 06:08 PM Re: Piano challenge [Re: Mark_C]
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Welcome to Piano World Hayden. Serious business here. Serious music. In fact, pretty much everything here is serious.

Try being more serious next time and you'll get the response you want. You know, talk about muscle tension in your hands while you play piano - that kind of scintillating stuff. smile
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#1451519 - 06/06/10 06:54 PM Re: Piano challenge [Re: Hayden Brooks]
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^^ (Make sure to realize he's half kidding. ^^
Or at least I think he is.) ha
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#1451523 - 06/06/10 07:01 PM Re: Piano challenge [Re: charleslang]
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Originally Posted By: charleslang
Hayden, I think you should apologize to this forum. You've admitted that this was a marketing ploy, yes - but more disappointing, from the beginning of this thread, your tone has not been respectful, but completely condescending.

Your 'ploy' (as you yourself call it) has been embarrassingly transparent! It's been awkward to read. I never thought I would feel awkward just reading on an internet forum.

The alternative does not have to be "Could someone please play my songs?". Why not just post them and mention that the scores are available and that you'd be excited to support anyone who would like to play the pieces? You might be surprised at the response, who knows.

Finally, I have a challenge for YOU! Step one: go to your bank. Step two: withdraw 1000 dollars. Step three: send it to me.

C'mon it'll be fun! wink


Get a grip. He doesn't owe anyone an apology. After some of the crap I've read on this forum, if HE owes an apology then there are a LOT of others that do as well.
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#1451548 - 06/06/10 07:44 PM Re: Piano challenge [Re: stores]
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I didn't like the songs, but I do apreciate the creativity. Keep going, you'll write something nice.
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#1451701 - 06/07/10 01:46 AM Re: Piano challenge [Re: al-mahed]
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Whatever. Offer incentives. I bet someone would play them for $100.
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#1451721 - 06/07/10 03:17 AM Re: Piano challenge [Re: Nikolas]
wr Offline
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Originally Posted By: Nikolas
I don't know if this is refering to me but anyways, my take to your comments.
Originally Posted By: gooddog
What just happened? Has anyone noticed?

The OP is new to PW and should be welcomed.
Yes, this is true. He wasn't exactly welcomed.

Quote:
He wanted us to try some of his music.
He asked politely.
Maybe it's a European vs USA thing, but I hardly found his manner polite. He didn't want us to try his music, but wanted to challenge us, reward us with his choice of the best performer/ance and so on.


I'm American, and I didn't find his manner polite, either. It was more like some pushy in-your-face salesperson that I would just as soon avoid. I didn't even bother to check out those "songs".

And yes, calling them "songs" was enough to put me off. This "composer" doesn't even care enough to understand this venue, so why should I care about the product? I figured if it was really great stuff, I'd hear about it sooner or later in the thread, and overcome my aversion. As it is, I am glad I didn't waste my time. Life is too short.







Edited by wr (06/07/10 04:52 AM)

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