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#1460313 - 06/21/10 01:17 PM Looking for good beginner's classical book
JoeyIsFunny Offline
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Registered: 06/14/10
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I tried searching but kept seeing alfred's book everywhere! Many people love the series, but I dont really want to learn the type of music in that book right now, Im wanting to start with some classical. Any recommendations for a good book that has some theory and general beginners lessons in addition to music?


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#1460315 - 06/21/10 01:26 PM Re: Looking for good beginner's classical book [Re: JoeyIsFunny]
Ejay Offline
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How about the Classics to Moderns series ?
I have book one and there is a guide listing them in order of difficulty.

ETA sorry , didn't see the bit about lessons until after I has started my reply.

This series is a good supplement to a method. The only classical method books I have seen in person, aimed at adults, jump ahead even faster than Alfreds. I have Thompsons and Schaums, but they contain no more actual teaching than Alfreds.


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#1460319 - 06/21/10 01:38 PM Re: Looking for good beginner's classical book [Re: Ejay]
JoeyIsFunny Offline
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Do you think Alfred's adult beginner one book would be good to pick up anyway because of the lessons and information it provides?

I will pick up that book you linked to and others in the series, thanks!


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#1460324 - 06/21/10 01:59 PM Re: Looking for good beginner's classical book [Re: JoeyIsFunny]
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Personally I like Alfreds , it is not perfect, but I think you would struggle to find any one method book, that by itself alone, would meet everyone's requirements

I'd recommend looking at suppliers of second hand books and buy a few to see which suits you best. I picked up Alfreds series second hand, with no marking on the pages, for a reasonable price.
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#1460348 - 06/21/10 02:49 PM Re: Looking for good beginner's classical book [Re: Ejay]
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If you live near a library, you might be able to sign out Alfred's from there, too. I did book 1 on library loans, then bought book 2.
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#1460360 - 06/21/10 03:08 PM Re: Looking for good beginner's classical book [Re: Ejay]
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I tried Alfred's but I hated playing the music in it (sounded ugly & primitive to me), so switched and taught myself using the Keith Snell repertoire series. The Snell repertoire books don't have the added teaching material that Alfred's does -- they're just plain old sheet music for the pieces. I had had maybe a year or so of piano lessons as a kid, and played some tin whistle as an adult, so I didn't need to learh how to read music (at least the treble clef).

There are supplementary scale and theory supplements by for the Snell books, but I chose my own different ones, because i had a head start in theory. They're meant for use with a teacher, but I am pretty self-directed.

I like books that come with CDs, so I can hear what things are supposed to sound like. The beginner repertoire series with CD's that I found are listed below.

Keith Snell - Piano Repertoire Series. Each level has 3 books & a CD (available separately), a book of Baroque & Classical, a book of Romantic & Modern, and a book of Etudes. There is another similar series with only one book per level, which includes CD, but has less pieces and none of the modern stuff (which is fun).

Helen Marlais - Succeeding with the Masters -- focuses on easier pieces by big name composers. Beginners start with On the Way to Succeeding with the Masters.

Festival Collection, also edited by Helen Marlais -- this does NOT overlap material with Succeeding with Masters).

Masterwork Classics, edited by Jane Magrath.




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#1460377 - 06/21/10 04:01 PM Re: Looking for good beginner's classical book [Re: tangleweeds]
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You might like The Joy of First Classics by Denes Agay.
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#1460383 - 06/21/10 04:15 PM Re: Looking for good beginner's classical book [Re: Plowboy]
JoeyIsFunny Offline
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Thank you all for the help. Time to start looking!

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#1460474 - 06/21/10 06:57 PM Re: Looking for good beginner's classical book [Re: JoeyIsFunny]
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For my lessons I work out of Alfred's Group Piano for Adults Book 1. this gives me more than enough theory.
At home on the side I work out of The Joy of First Classics, books 1 and 2, by Denes Agay, also Classical Music, (Adult Piano Series) Book 1 Elementary, Arranged and Edited by Robert Schultz. These three books have no theory, but appear to have progressively more difficult pieces for the beginner.

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#1460554 - 06/21/10 09:02 PM Re: Looking for good beginner's classical book [Re: bbuckis]
heidiv Offline
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I like The Joy of First Classics too, and use it for several students. No commentary or instructions, just pieces, but a great intro to classics book.

Another book you might like is an Alfred book called "Masterwork Classics Levels 1-2," compiled and edited by Jane McGrath. It's only $9.95 and comes with a CD, which might come in handy if you're without a teacher.

If I may make a suggestion: If you're new to classical music, start with works that seem extremely simple in order to train yourself to pay attention to the smallest details - every phrase mark, every staccato, every accent, every rest. Better to play a "simple" piece well than a challenging piece sloppily.

Best of luck to you as you explore!


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#1460658 - 06/22/10 01:15 AM Re: Looking for good beginner's classical book [Re: heidiv]
ll Offline
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Alfred's Adult Group Piano books 1 and 2 for lessons.

Keith Snell Piano Repertoire for pieces.

More than enough right there. And always having one piece from each 'era' going on, particularly the Baroque and Classical early on.

Good luck.
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#1460680 - 06/22/10 03:12 AM Re: Looking for good beginner's classical book [Re: ll]
tonkempen125 Offline
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Registered: 01/04/10
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Hi Joeisfunny,

I might have a very different starter's method you might be interested in.

I started playing piano a little less then a year ago and I asked my teacher to please provide me a method without the really childish songs but more classical and technical type of book.

So I started out with: "Carl Czerny: 100 recreations", or "100 erholungen" as it sometimes has been sold. A true startersbook. Although a little old-fashioned (Czerny was a 19th century piano composer/teacher, one of the teachers of Liszt). This method seems to be a little out of fashion these days but Czerny has been the start of many great pianists in the past.

As far as I am concerned this book is ideal for the adult starter who wants to develop a real classical basis.

I myself after a year of hard practice am almost finished with this book and I have learned a lot!



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#1460693 - 06/22/10 04:24 AM Re: Looking for good beginner's classical book [Re: tonkempen125]
marcus123 Offline
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Registered: 12/22/09
Posts: 2
First joy of classics 1 and 2. I would highly recommend.

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