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#1461431 - 06/23/10 08:03 AM Equipment Panic
wrongpaw Offline
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Registered: 05/01/08
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Loc: Mpls, MN
Greetings All
I'm considering a Yamaha CP-33 as an all around piano.
Use at home - small gig's etc.

now I'm getting all panic stricken about spending $1000 and having the piano go obsolete in 2-3 years.
Does anyone still use old equipment because: they like it - still does the job - still sounds good...
or is upgrading every few years just a fact of life
trying to keep up with the technology....



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#1461444 - 06/23/10 08:40 AM Re: Equipment Panic [Re: wrongpaw]
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The CP33 is a great piano and if I had to do it all over again I would not have bought the CP300 ... and possibly even the CP5.

While Yamaha does come out with new stage pianos every three or four years, you will still get a decent price for yours when you upgrade say in five years.

The CP33 is an excellent piano and if I had to sell my CP5, I'd gladly settle for a CP33.

Be happy with it, it's a great piano. (The default grand needs more and richer reverb and some EQ tweaking, but that's my taste and you have a full range of editing possibilities.)

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#1461445 - 06/23/10 08:41 AM Re: Equipment Panic [Re: wrongpaw]
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Originally Posted By: wrongpaw
Greetings All
is upgrading every few years just a fact of life
trying to keep up with the technology....
No. It is a fact of life that every 2 ~ 3 years a new piano comes out that is technically superior to the one you own.

However, as long as you're satisfied with the piano you've got, it doesn't matter. I'm using the Roland KR-103, and although I wish I had a better DP or room for an acoustic, it does the job.

I would say the majority of digital owners are like me. Purchase the best they can afford and keep it for between 5 ~ 10 years, rather than upgrading every 2 ~ 3 years.
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#1461448 - 06/23/10 08:51 AM Re: Equipment Panic [Re: appleman]
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appleman is spot on - there will always be new, better products around the corner, that's just the nature of technology.

However, there is absolutely no reason to feel obliged to upgrade or replace your instrument if it still performs well and brings you enjoyment when you sit down to play.

If you like the CP33, go for it!

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#1461580 - 06/23/10 12:05 PM Re: Equipment Panic [Re: wrongpaw]
ChrisA Offline
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Registered: 12/28/08
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Originally Posted By: wrongpaw

now I'm getting all panic stricken about spending $1000 and having the piano go obsolete in 2-3 years.

First off it's not $1K every 3 years because you can sell a DP for 50% of what you paid.

In terms if non-obsolescent the CP33 may be a very good deal if you think of it as a MIDI controller that also happens to have some sound generation ability then it will never become obsolete. If you do the sound generation in a computer you will be able o stay current as technology moves on by updating your software and continuing to use the CP33 as a MIDI controller.

If you buy the CP33 thinking that it contains state of the art sampling technology it is already been passed over by newer Yamaha models llike the CP1/5/50 and even the P155. But as a controller for stage use I think it can have a long life

Edited by ChrisA (06/23/10 12:06 PM)

#1461702 - 06/23/10 02:53 PM Re: Equipment Panic [Re: wrongpaw]
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Originally Posted By: wrongpaw
Now I'm getting all panic stricken about spending $1000 and having the piano go obsolete in 2-3 years.
Why worry about obsolescence? In three years the piano will sound exactly the same as it does today.

Meanwhile, the new models three years from now will be barely better than the one you buy today. No worries.

#1461876 - 06/23/10 06:35 PM Re: Equipment Panic [Re: MacMacMac]
MarkL Offline
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I've had a P90 for about 3 years now, it was used when I bought it and I'm still happy. In fact I played the CP33 recently and I couldn't justify an upgrade based on my ability and interests. You might try finding a used CP33. That would reduce your depreciation if it's a concern.
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#1461961 - 06/23/10 08:33 PM Re: Equipment Panic [Re: wrongpaw]
dewster Offline
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Originally Posted By: wrongpaw
I'm considering a Yamaha CP-33 as an all around piano.

OMG, Amazon's got the CP-33 for $112.09 with Free Super Saver shipping!

That's the Kohler K-4615-CP-33 Revival! Looks like a real work horse, can't imagine having to upgrade that baby any time soon.

You could certainly use it at home, but you might look a little funny bringing it to gigs.

I think I'd go for the biscuit color.
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#1462092 - 06/24/10 12:18 AM Re: Equipment Panic [Re: dewster]
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Loc: North Carolina
That's the Kohler K-4615-CP-33 Revival

Hey, that's a great instrument.

But it has its shortcomings ... I can only play the bass notes on it. smile smile

My wife, on the other hand, can play both the bass notes and the high, tinkle notes. smile smile

#1462122 - 06/24/10 01:28 AM Re: Equipment Panic [Re: MacMacMac]
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Registered: 10/17/09
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Loc: Monroe, NC USA
I heard it does "phenomenal duets" with the skin flute! grin

Edited by Emissary52 (06/24/10 01:29 AM)
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