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#1449228 - 06/03/10 02:44 AM
Re: Carpal Tunnel Syndrome/Tendonitis
[Re: scepticalforumguy]
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Registered: 01/01/10
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I had CPS/tendonitis/tennis elbow when I was about 22 years old too. If anyone has tennis elbow (either due to playing tennis or piano) that is affecting their piano playing (or tennis playing), I would recommend this device called the Theraband FlexBar and an exercise on it called the Tyler Twist. The FlexBar should be less than $20 and is very effective for tennis elbow when used with the Tyler Twist exercise. I've tried everything in the book and this is the only thing that works effectively for me. They did a scientific medical study on the exercise and it was very successful.
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#1449249 - 06/03/10 03:40 AM
Re: Carpal Tunnel Syndrome/Tendonitis
[Re: 4evr88]
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Registered: 12/16/09
Posts: 708
Loc: Bulgaria
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I switched to using the computer mouse to my left hand several years ago. The way most 102 keys PC keyboards are laid out, having the mouse to the right of it makes for very bad posture. Add piano that also generally work the right hand more, the right hand is just over worked compared to the left. Using the mouse with my left hand means my right hand gets a lot more rest time during the day. Don't keep the mouse on the right when using left hand, learn to use it on the left side!
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#1449290 - 06/03/10 07:22 AM
Re: Carpal Tunnel Syndrome/Tendonitis
[Re: Teodor]
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500 Post Club Member
Registered: 06/27/09
Posts: 768
Loc: California
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#1449454 - 06/03/10 11:52 AM
Re: Carpal Tunnel Syndrome/Tendonitis
[Re: Volusiano]
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500 Post Club Member
Registered: 11/19/09
Posts: 562
Loc: Canada
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If anyone has tennis elbow (either due to playing tennis or piano) that is affecting their piano playing (or tennis playing), I would recommend this device called the Theraband FlexBar and an exercise on it called the Tyler Twist. Thanks for posting this. My physio had me do that exercise in one of my appointments while my arm was recovering - although the crack was up by the elbow, the trauma to all the tendons, ligaments, etc was huge. I'd forgotten what the flex bar was called, & it was very effective.
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#1450603 - 06/05/10 02:41 AM
Re: Carpal Tunnel Syndrome/Tendonitis
[Re: joyoussong]
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Registered: 12/16/09
Posts: 708
Loc: Bulgaria
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I am such AN IDIOT! My doc told me it would likely take 6 months for the hand to recover (the first time I saw him in march). The pain first occurred on the 26th of February, now it's June, it's been merely 3 full months! What am I thinking... I thought it's been 6 months already. Ok, so my plan is to take this month off (I am typing a bit to keep the hand in good shape and I use my younger brother as a personal assistant in the office so I don't have to touch a mouse) and then the next month (july) I will do some physio therapy and resume piano lessons gradually. Even if I had tendonitis, I read physio is good for recovery. That's good, there is still hope. 
Edited by Teodor (06/05/10 02:42 AM)
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#1460330 - 06/21/10 02:20 PM
Re: Carpal Tunnel Syndrome/Tendonitis
[Re: Teodor]
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500 Post Club Member
Registered: 12/16/09
Posts: 708
Loc: Bulgaria
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Still fighting this. I haven't played for 20 days, I dream about it every night! Really I do. Every night there is a piano in my dream and I play for a few seconds, some nights I find myself looking for a piano in my dreams. Weird eh?  Seems I might have been misdiagnosed, my hand did not get much better and the pills and gels and whatever the doc prescribed does not help my condition. I got referred to one of the top specialists in town and he agreed to see me tomorrow night. Hopefully he will tell me what's wrong. I hope to be able to play again in September at the very latest. My left hand is failing too, I tried to use the mouse with it but it hurts...
Edited by Teodor (06/21/10 02:21 PM)
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#1460954 - 06/22/10 01:49 PM
Re: Carpal Tunnel Syndrome/Tendonitis
[Re: Teodor]
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Registered: 12/11/07
Posts: 7435
Loc: Canada
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Teodor, I remember that you changed teachers, and I think, that your teacher is aware of technique and maybe how you have been hurting yourself. Has this teacher given any input?
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#1460994 - 06/22/10 02:52 PM
Re: Carpal Tunnel Syndrome/Tendonitis
[Re: Teodor]
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3000 Post Club Member
Registered: 10/05/08
Posts: 3457
Loc: San Jose, CA
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Listening while following the score by eye (they go too fast for me sometimes, but it's still a revelation). Musicain bios, music history, theory... you can still do things that will help your progress once you can start playing again.
I hope you don't lose faith in your recovery potential--- you will get past this; your young body and vitality and the help you're getting are all on your side. Physio will definitely help.
My doc told me, a few years ago, "Getting old is not for wimps. You not only have to be tough--- you have to be very, very adaptable."
The nerve! But he was right, though. And it's advice that can help anyone.
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#1461817 - 06/23/10 05:31 PM
Re: Carpal Tunnel Syndrome/Tendonitis
[Re: Teodor]
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Registered: 01/15/05
Posts: 1287
Loc: NY
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No, no x-rays but only because the doc believes it is the tendons and muscles that are sore from overuse. He says I am an enigma for him, and that my hands just need rest.
So your entire hand got stiff and had pain because of a single finger problem? Yes, I was surprised about that, but maybe it caused some surrounding inflammation. It was worse in the thumb where the bone was broken, though. That's still a little stiff, but no pain now. Hope you're feeling better soon.
Edited by Elssa (06/23/10 05:32 PM)
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#1461948 - 06/23/10 08:11 PM
Re: Carpal Tunnel Syndrome/Tendonitis
[Re: Elssa]
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Registered: 06/20/10
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This is all very interesting because I had hand pain when learning Solfigietto and now again that I am memorizing it....there is something about that piece that kills my hand and wrist. I'm sure it has something to do with tension.
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#1461977 - 06/23/10 08:52 PM
Re: Carpal Tunnel Syndrome/Tendonitis
[Re: Teodor]
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Registered: 12/11/07
Posts: 7435
Loc: Canada
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Can't give me anything right now since I stopped lessons until my hands are good again, I haven't played for 22 days but now it looks like I have to stop using the PC as well for a month. Will be a boring month indeed, all I got left is singing maybe and some reading, if I can manage to put a book comfortably enough so that I don't have to hold it in my hands. I understand. But when this new teacher saw you, did she advise you on how you were playing and how it was affecting you physically?
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#1464023 - 06/27/10 07:22 PM
Re: Carpal Tunnel Syndrome/Tendonitis
[Re: keystring]
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Registered: 07/21/09
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Has anyone had good results with ice or moist heat?
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#1464070 - 06/27/10 09:53 PM
Re: Carpal Tunnel Syndrome/Tendonitis
[Re: tranquillo]
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Registered: 10/05/08
Posts: 3457
Loc: San Jose, CA
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"Has anyone had good results with ice or moist heat?"
If it is tendonitis, yes. Ice is quite effective at reducing the local inflammation, which reduces both the discomfort and the formation of scar tissue. I haven't tried heat treatment for the wrist and hand, but one doc said that it works. I have tried it for back pain, with pretty good results (within limits). Alternating ice with heat at different times of day was helpful.
These things are not likely to be harmful, so I don't mind suggesting them. But, there are other injuries with similar symptoms, for which ice or heat may be of no benefit... and even for cases where they do help, other treatments may be needed as well. A medical diagnosis is really important if the discomfort does not clear up within a reasonable time (a few weeks).
And, if you keep doing whatever caused the injury in the first place, don't expect results to follow. But sometimes a very subtle change in posture, seat height, movement, release of tension, etc., can make a huge difference to those tiny structures in the hand and wrist.
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#1470276 - 07/08/10 02:00 AM
Re: Carpal Tunnel Syndrome/Tendonitis
[Re: EJR]
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Registered: 12/16/09
Posts: 708
Loc: Bulgaria
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Well there is no nerve damage or entrapment, I was tested for that. I think I get get an appointment for physio from our family doctor (GP) and see if that helps. My daily activities have been boring lately: get ouf of bed and wash up, dress, eat, go back to bed or the couch, turn on the laptop, press play, watch movies all day, read a book in the evening, go to sleep, repeat. 
Edited by Teodor (07/08/10 02:01 AM)
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#1470286 - 07/08/10 02:34 AM
Re: Carpal Tunnel Syndrome/Tendonitis
[Re: Teodor]
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2000 Post Club Member
Registered: 06/12/09
Posts: 2788
Loc: Bay Area, CA
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Teodor,
I've been in your situation. I know the frustration, depression and fear that you have.
I'm not going to try to give specific medical advice, because I'm not qualified. I will give two general suggestions though, and I hope they help.
1. Don't give up on trying to find the right person to heal you. He or she is out there. It might be a piano teacher with a lot of experience helping arm injuries. It might be a physical therapist. It might be a deep tissue massage therapist. If someone isn't helping, move on to the next person.
2. When I was injured, I tried to keep my hands still for many weeks, to let them "rest". This was a big mistake. I'm not saying to start playing piano tomorrow, and don't do anything that aggravates your symptoms. But for the body to heal naturally, it has to be used naturally, and if you treat your arms like fragile objects, they will become fragile objects. It sounds like your daily routine doesn't involve a lot of natural movement; this can be detrimental. Get out of the house: get some exercise: use your arms freely and naturally to the best of your ability, and that will go a long way towards your healing. Which will happen, really.
-Jason
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#1470576 - 07/08/10 03:25 PM
Re: Carpal Tunnel Syndrome/Tendonitis
[Re: keyboardklutz]
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Registered: 09/04/06
Posts: 2531
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The RH little finger also curls backward from time to time, another indication of tension in the hand and fingers not moving independently.
There is a name for tense elevated fingers that have unwanted movements like that when playing the piano: "flying fingers".
Is it the cause of your problem? I don't know. But it could either be causing it or adding to it.
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Music teacher and piano player.
"They may call me a rube and a hick, but I would rather be the man who bought the Brooklyn Bridge than the man who sold it." Will Rogers
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