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#1466208 - 07/01/10 08:17 AM Any experience with Gigmasters, Gigsalad, and other sites?
Redhead1 Offline
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Registered: 02/07/10
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My yearly membership with Gigmasters.com is going to expire in a month and I'm trying to decide if I should renew.

I've gotten a lot of leads (this week I've gotten four!) but they almost never pan out. I looked at my stats and see that about 70% of my Gigmasters leads never hire anybody through Gigmasters -- not me or anybody else.

In the 11 months I've had the membership, I got one wedding job (which paid for the membership with about $10 left over), and got one "job" playing for a fundraiser that I was asked to do for free. (It was at the Ritz and a good experience, so I'm glad that happened, even though it didn't pay.

Anyway, I was curious what other people's experiences and opinions were of sites like this. Do you think they are helpful? A scam? Are they a good tool, but I'm doing something wrong? Is there a way to "work" them that I just haven't discovered yet?

Redhead

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#1466219 - 07/01/10 08:43 AM Re: Any experience with Gigmasters, Gigsalad, and other sites? [Re: Redhead1]
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Registered: 05/01/10
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This question has been explored in part on the All About Jazz site. The link is below:

http://forums.allaboutjazz.com/showthread.php?t=11833

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#1466665 - 07/01/10 08:25 PM Re: Any experience with Gigmasters, Gigsalad, and other sites? [Re: Redhead1]
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Great question!
Although I've never had to advertise on Gigmasters many of my friends have. The couple friends that are doing really well have lots of reviews on there. They are 90% or more positive.
The friends who don't have the same amount of reviews aren't doing as well.
Also, you said that 70% of the gig offers aren't panning out. The question I'd ask then is what are you doing to differentiate yourself from the other people on that site?
IMO the combination of more positive reviews and differentiating yourself more will help.

One of my favorite blogger Seth Godin has dealt with the concept of advertising and whether to tell if it's working or not. http://sethgodin.typepad.com/seths_blog/2009/01/do-ads-work.html

Check it out and let me know what you think smile
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#1466888 - 07/02/10 08:22 AM Re: Any experience with Gigmasters, Gigsalad, and other sites? [Re: Steve Nixon]
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Originally Posted By: Steve Nixon

Also, you said that 70% of the gig offers aren't panning out. The question I'd ask then is what are you doing to differentiate yourself from the other people on that site?


Well, actually about 95% of the gig offers aren't panning out.

This is what's interesting to me: about 70% of the gig offers NEVER HIRE ANYONE FROM GIGMASTERS -- not me, or anyone else. They fill out a request, get several bids (from me and others) and then ... nothing. (I know this because GM tells you if you make a bid and the person hires Joe Smith instead of you.)

Don't know what that means, but I find it interesting.

You're probably right about the positive reviews, but that creates a problem: You can't get reviews until you get gigs, and in the past 11 months, I've only gotten one gig!

Now I'm off to read your link ...

Redhead

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#1466958 - 07/02/10 10:42 AM Re: Any experience with Gigmasters, Gigsalad, and other sites? [Re: Redhead1]
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They give you a low rating when you start out, like 2 stars out of 5 because you start with no reviews. So it is very hard to get work through gigmasters unless you are an insider that started with them years ago. Not recommended.

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#1665535 - 04/23/11 08:09 PM Re: Any experience with Gigmasters, Gigsalad, and other sites? [Re: Redhead1]
WorkingBand Offline
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Registered: 04/22/11
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Good question. GigMasters is a scam. They've created a rather successful and highly profitable business (with your money) by advertising that they can get you work. How do they accomplish this? Well, they claim that hiring venues, etc., use their website as a clearing house for talent, thus you'll be seen by these people once you're a registered user. I currently play in a successful band and we have management. We thought it might be interesting to find out if we could get additional gigs outside our usual tour circle by using GigMasters.

Here's what we found out: just when our trial membership was expiring, we got a couple of what appeared to be serious and urgent calls from large, well known venues who claimed they were looking for exactly what we do. Problem was, they stopped communicating with us once things got serious. Then we would receive numerous emails from GigMasters regarding the call. Something seemed fishy. After the second time this happened I got curious and called a friend of mine who books for a nationally known chain of casinos. He told me that GigMasters hires and pays booking people, from venues, to call bands from a call list with "offers," more often than not - just when they needed to rejoin.

The old saying applies here: if it seems too good to be true, it is.

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#1665829 - 04/24/11 02:57 PM Re: Any experience with Gigmasters, Gigsalad, and other sites? [Re: WorkingBand]
Redhead1 Offline
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Originally Posted By: WorkingBand
Good question. GigMasters is a scam. They've created a rather successful and highly profitable business (with your money) by advertising that they can get you work.


Interesting. Thanks for sharing.

I'm the OP and I started this thread about 9-10 months ago. Since then, I did decide to renew with Gigmasters and things have picked up a bit.

In October I played for a wedding, in December I played for both a Bat Mitzvah and a NYE Party, and in two weeks I am playing for a graduation party. I am also scheduled for another wedding for next spring.

So ... not amazing, but certainly enough to cover the cost of membership and then some. At this point, I do plan to renew again this summer.

Redhead

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#1666179 - 04/25/11 10:11 AM Re: Any experience with Gigmasters, Gigsalad, and other sites? [Re: WorkingBand]
Mike Caldwell Offline
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Registered: 04/25/11
Posts: 1
Loc: Redding, Connecticut
Originally Posted By: WorkingBand
GigMasters hires and pays booking people, from venues, to call bands from a call list with "offers," more often than not - just when they needed to rejoin.


As one of the co-founders of GigMasters, I feel compelled to respond to WorkingBand's claim that we are a scam and that we pay venues to call bands with fake offers. Nothing could be farther from the truth.

GigMasters has been around since 1997. We are a small hardworking 20-person company based out of Fairfield County, Connecticut. We work tirelessly every day to help working musicians and entertainers find paying gigs. While we're not perfect, we have helped facilitate over 120,000 bookings for our members and we're improving with every passing year.

If anyone has any questions about the authenticity of GigMasters, please call me directly. My office phone number is (203) 587-1134 x230.

Sincerely,

Michael Caldwell
Co-Founder & CEO
GigMasters.com, Inc.
9 Brookside Place,
Redding, CT 06896
(203) 587-1134 x230

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#2455389 - Today at 10:28 AM Re: Any experience with Gigmasters, Gigsalad, and other sites? [Re: Redhead1]
booknact Offline
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Registered: 08/24/15
Posts: 1
There is a brand new website that just popped up: www.booknact.com
I do not what it is worth but the cool thing is that it is totally FREE and allows artists and performers from all over the world to register. It is worth to try smile

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