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#1466810 - 07/02/10 03:17 AM HP-302 vs HP-203, CLP-320 vs CLP-230
olavi Offline
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Registered: 07/01/10
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Hi everyone, I'm about to buy my first piano. I'm interested in "last year's models" and used ones to get the best bang for the buck. However, it's hard to find not-too-old used digital pianos. The previous models are already quite rare, too, so trying them all myself before buying is out the question.

I know that Roland HP-203 and HP-302 should have roughly the same feel due to PHA-II with escapement. The latter has "natural sound" but inferior speakers (typically I use headphones, though). Is it worth 200 - 300 € more? Is the sound in HP-203 expressive compared to Yamaha 300 series, for exaple? And, was there ever a consensus on whether the HP-201 sold in Europe had PHA-II or not?

I could get a used Yamaha CLP-230 for 1000 €, but it seems a little overpriced considering it has only 1-layer samples. I assume it is significantly less expressive due to this fact. However, I like the Yamaha sound and it does have GH3, although I'm not sure I would notice the difference. I guess I would be better off with a new CLP-320 (1150 €) despite its plain GH.

I'm trying to resist the temptation to try the Kawai CA-63, considering it costs 600 € more than any of the above... but I'm used to a certain old Kawai upright with *really* heavy keys.

A little off topic: I wonder why the manufacturers insist on building these full-frame digital pianos. Using proper software, I could just use a simple MIDI keyboard without any knobs at all, but I'm unable to find one with a good keyboard.

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#1466815 - 07/02/10 03:44 AM Re: HP-302 vs HP-203, CLP-320 vs CLP-230 [Re: olavi]
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If it was between the HP203 or HP302, it the HP302 for sure, plus the cabinet is nicer, the sound engine is much better.

Between the CLP-230 and CLP-320, I suppose you would be fine with the previous model. The changes for the current model is not huge if max bang for buck is your priority.
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#1467221 - 07/02/10 08:38 PM Re: HP-302 vs HP-203, CLP-320 vs CLP-230 [Re: 4evrBeginR]
Kawai James Offline
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olavi, if you are considering a used CLP-230 for 1000 €, may I suggest you also consider a new Kawai CN23.

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