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#1480390 - 07/24/10 07:58 AM Re: Piano Corner stagnant [Re: btb]
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Originally Posted By: btb
Must blame myself for not coming up with some fresh topic worthy of debate ...
but at the moment Piano corner seems to have gone stagnant.

At the moment we munch on the toughest morsels

1. Invitation to go on a musical tour of Europe ... 0
2. Schumann recital ... stewing endlessly
3. Prodigy thread has disintegrated into advice of a good pizza
4. The rubbishing of Schoenberg hasn’t attracted many clowns
5. Scriabin takes a knock ... fades at 2
6. Ravel Concerto dies ... 0
7. Pedalling closes down ... 2
8. Beethoven melodies keeps the flags flying at 42 ... hurrah!!
9. Cranky tuning of a violin is prodded to 12
10. Zhang concert is outdated at 42
11. Liutsa dissipates
12. Most difficult pieces can’t keep up steam

With such clever chaps out there ... surely it’s possible to come up with more challenging threads


Nothing guaranteed to induce stagnation like turgid ellipsis(eseses) used to the nth degree.

Kick back and relax while sentence structure and cogent argument trail off unsatisfactorily into a swamp of little dots...

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#1480396 - 07/24/10 08:22 AM Re: Piano Corner stagnant [Re: argerichfan]
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Originally Posted By: argerichfan
Originally Posted By: Emanuel Ravelli

I could give you my wife's email address. She loves 'em. My sons and I leave the house when she indulges this atrocious passion, but the cats follow her around endlessly, hoping for whatever is the anchovy equivalent of table scraps.

LOL laugh I think I've only met one other person besides myself who absolutely goes bonkers over anchovies on pizza.


I don't go bonkers, but I like anchovies on my pizza.
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#1480430 - 07/24/10 09:55 AM Re: Piano Corner stagnant [Re: Damon]
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Originally Posted By: Damon
Originally Posted By: argerichfan
Originally Posted By: Emanuel Ravelli

I could give you my wife's email address. She loves 'em. My sons and I leave the house when she indulges this atrocious passion, but the cats follow her around endlessly, hoping for whatever is the anchovy equivalent of table scraps.

LOL laugh I think I've only met one other person besides myself who absolutely goes bonkers over anchovies on pizza.


I don't go bonkers, but I like anchovies on my pizza.



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#1480556 - 07/24/10 01:45 PM Re: Piano Corner stagnant [Re: argerichfan]
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Originally Posted By: argerichfan
Originally Posted By: Janus K. Sachs
I'm sure members are hoping for the return of the homophobe and the neo-Nazi. Aren't such things always foretold by scripture?

Well I'm not missing them, Scripture or whatever. I do miss sottovoce -his posts were often fun and sometimes very enlightening- but this very intelligent man got a bit carried away with excess (not that I ever do blush ), and he finally crossed the Rubicon. Rather a pity. Once permanently banished, no return.


Soooo...not mention of zombies, or homophobic neo-nazi zombies

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#1480639 - 07/24/10 03:32 PM Re: Piano Corner stagnant [Re: Janus K. Sachs]
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Originally Posted By: Janus K. Sachs
I'm sure members are hoping for the return of the homophobe and the neo-Nazi. Aren't such things always foretold by scripture?


There haven't been any neo-Nazis around that I've seen, but we do have a homophobe who has made his ignorance known recently.
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#1480734 - 07/24/10 06:11 PM Re: Piano Corner stagnant [Re: stores]
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I know who you mean -- and he's a terrific member, though, nonetheless.
Sometimes, as they say, you take the good with the bad. smile

Pardon the silly smilie.....
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#1480735 - 07/24/10 06:16 PM Re: Piano Corner stagnant [Re: stores]
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How about communists? Are they OK?
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#1480781 - 07/24/10 08:00 PM Re: Piano Corner stagnant [Re: Damon]
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Damon
What is that quote about? (excuse my ignorance)

The neo-Nazi was the real thing, but he preceded you, stores..

Communists would be welcome. They might bring out the McCarthy in some folks, and that would be fun to watch.


Edited by Andromaque (07/24/10 08:10 PM)
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#1480785 - 07/24/10 08:05 PM Re: Piano Corner stagnant [Re: Andromaque]
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Originally Posted By: Andromaque
Damon
What is that quote about? (excuse my ignorance)

The neo-Nazi was the real thing, but it preceded you, stores..

Communists would be welcome. They might bring out the McCarthy in some folks, and that would be fun to watch.



Some of them write awesome music too. Like Shostakovitch. And Khachaturian I guess.

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#1480790 - 07/24/10 08:10 PM Re: Piano Corner stagnant [Re: WinsomeAllegretto]
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Shostakovitch supposedly did not have a choice. Don't know about Aram.

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#1480796 - 07/24/10 08:22 PM Re: Piano Corner stagnant [Re: Andromaque]
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I'm not really sure...but you pretty much couldn't do anything if you weren't in favor with the communist party...

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#1480807 - 07/24/10 08:53 PM Re: Piano Corner stagnant [Re: WinsomeAllegretto]
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Shostakovich opposed the regime and was forced to join the communist party. If you read the conversations with his kids, he was crying after being told to join, and the only other time he had cried was when his wife died.

Prokofiev could care less about communism, though he was severely attacked by Zhdanov in 1948.

Oistrakh and Gilels joined the communist party, though if you ask those who knew him (I read and watched a few interviews), they did it out of safety. Richter could care less about politics, but he didn't join the party. Rostropovich was opposed to the regime outright, sent in a very nasty letter to Pravda complaining how the stupid bureaucracy was impeding artistic development in the USSR that was leaked to the outside world, and he went into exile. There's a funny story about how Rostropovich was once given a glass vase as payment for a concert. The Soviet embassy was always supposed to take 80-90% of the money. Rostropovich went to the embassy, threw the vase on the floor, shattering it, picked up 20% of the pieces and then left.

I haven't read much about Khachaturian, but Richter disliked his music (as well as Kabalevsky's). I know Kabalevsky seemed to be more hardcore communist than the others, though Richter and Shostakovich didn't like him either. During a meeting where Lady Macbeth, after being heavily revised, was discussed and Shostakovich performed it for a committee wihch included Kabalevsky, apparently Kabalevsky said some scathing things echoing the infamous "muddle instead of music" article to the composer. Interesting how it was only Kabalevsky that escaped being denounced during the 1948 Zhdanov Decree.
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#1480817 - 07/24/10 09:16 PM Re: Piano Corner stagnant [Re: Andromaque]
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Originally Posted By: Andromaque
Shostakovitch supposedly did not have a choice.

He had a choice. He just elected to pull back, join the 'party' and write music which kept him safe. Only in his divine quartets did he reveal his innermost thoughts.

A performance of a Shostakovitch string quartet is almost on the level of Bartok or late Beethoven. Don't ever miss a concert with a Shostakovitch quartet.

Alas, Shostakovitch has been over interpreted. Particularly in NYC -led by the pompous critic Richard Taruskin- we're led to believe that S's quartets contain secret anti-Communist references. The mere fact that people attend a concert with S's quartets puts them in some kind of secret league.

That certainly sells tickets, but I don't go for that. Too easy. Shostakovitch was an undeniably great composer, but let's keep the perspective. He took pot shots at Prokofiev's orchestration, but IMO Shostakovitch's orchestration leaves a lot to be desired with a too prominent emphasis on the woodwinds.

But at least one can identify a Shostakovitch score in about two seconds!

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#1480826 - 07/24/10 09:34 PM Re: Piano Corner stagnant [Re: Kuanpiano]
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Originally Posted By: Kuanpiano
Shostakovich opposed the regime and was forced to join the communist party. If you read the conversations with his kids, he was crying after being told to join, and the only other time he had cried was when his wife died.

Nice post Kuanpiano, and interesting input. Thank-you for that.

Not sure that I entirely accept this, though I suppose it all comes down to how we perceive Shostakovich as a simple human looking out for himself, and not the great composer of the quartets.

From what I have read -and not as much as you- there is a lingering impression that S just wanted to be left alone, whatever that took, and whatever compromises were entailed. But this does indeed take us into NYC areas, doesn't it?



Edited by argerichfan (07/24/10 09:43 PM)
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#1480829 - 07/24/10 09:44 PM Re: Piano Corner stagnant [Re: argerichfan]
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Originally Posted By: argerichfan
Originally Posted By: Kuanpiano
Shostakovich opposed the regime and was forced to join the communist party. If you read the conversations with his kids, he was crying after being told to join, and the only other time he had cried was when his wife died.

Nice post Kuanpiano, and interesting input. Thank-you for that.

Not sure that I entirely accept this, though I suppose it all comes down to how we perceive Shostakovich as a simple human looking out for himself, and not the great composer of the quartets.

From what I have read -and not as much as you- there is such a lingering impression that S just wanted to be left alone, whatever that took, and whatever compromises. But this does indeed take us into NYC areas, doesn't it?


Thanks! I did an essay on musicians under the Soviet Union, so that's why I know a bit of stuff about how communism affected music. What we know about Shostakovich's personality was that he was almost a frail person (as Richter comments on how he was always apologizing), and his notorious chain-smoking habits. I think suffering under the regime really took it's toll on him, especially after what happened to him after he was so harshly denounced by Pravda after Stalin apparently attended Lady Macbeth and disliked it. He was attacked by the public, his neighbours, constantly threatened with arrest, and loudspeakers outside his home openly harassing him. I think that's certainly enough to make him want to just hide and isolate himself!

In Shostakovich's music you really see a lot of personal little bits, like how he incorporates his DSCH motif (which symbolizes himself) into some of his most painful music. Apparently his 8th quartet, which holds the official dedication to "the victims of fascism", was actually dedicated to "his own memory", but he was pressured to change the dedication (this coming from his children).

Edit: I just remembered something....(all of these memories from the essay are flooding back...haha). Shortly after being denounced in 1948 by Zhdanov, where he was forced to read out a speech claiming that he had written formalist music to the detriment of the people and stuff, he wrote an extremely blatant attack on the governent (Stalin and Zhdanov) called "Anti-formalist Rayok". I don't know if there are any videos on youtube of it, but I remember seeing an excerpt on the DVD "Shostakovich vs Stalin: the war symphonies". Pretty much, I remember it absolutely mocking Stalin and Zhdanov to no end, quoting parts of Stalin's favourite song "Suliko", and ridiculing everything.

Another funny story about Maria Yudina: Stalin liked her playing so much he ordered her to record a Mozart Piano concerto for him. The government officials took her in the middle of the night and flew her to a recording studio and they produced the record, and Stalin ended up sending twenty thousand roubles to her. Her response? “I am very grateful, Iosef Vissarionovich, for your help. I will pray night and day for you and beg God to forgive you your sins against your people and country. God is merciful, he'll forgive. As for the money, I shall give it to a charity at the church I go to" shocked

If you want any of my primary sources, I think I have most of them on digital copy, so I can share them if you're interested in the subject matter.


Edited by Kuanpiano (07/24/10 10:09 PM)
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#1480840 - 07/24/10 10:12 PM Re: Piano Corner stagnant [Re: Kuanpiano]
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Originally Posted By: Kuanpiano

Thanks! I did an essay on musicians under the Soviet Union, so that's why I know a bit of stuff about how communism affected music. What we know about Shostakovich's personality was that he was almost a frail person (as Richter comments on how he was always apologizing), and his notorious chain-smoking habits. I think suffering under the regime really took it's toll on him, especially after what happened to him after he was so harshly denounced by Pravda after Stalin apparently attended Lady Macbeth and disliked it. He was attacked by the public, his neighbours, constantly threatened with arrest, and loudspeakers outside his home openly harassing him. I think that's certainly enough to make him want to just hide and isolate himself!

In Shostakovich's music you really see a lot of personal little bits, like how he incorporates his DSCH motif (which symbolizes himself) into some of his most painful music. Apparently his 8th quartet, which holds the official dedication to "the victims of fascism", was actually dedicated to "his own memory", but he was pressured to change the dedication (this coming from his children).

I quote the above in its entirety because it is so well written. Much to learn there, though it doesn't refute my original feelings, more a case of recalling a stupendous performance of the 4th quartet by the Emerson.

It took a few days to get over it- and I've only heard the 8th on CD! Certainly I knew that S was a very frail person, though with all due respect to you, one would hardly attribute the 7th symphony to a 'frail' person -but that was when he was in better health?- surely you don't think it matches the 8th or 10th?

Not to mention the 4th, and that is pretty much where I sign off. I think it the greatest symphonic composition of Shostakovich. Wasn't that before the big crackdown? I spent a very depressing Sunday afternoon as a 20 year old at a performance of the 14th. Maybe I was just too young, but it was all rather monotonous.

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#1480844 - 07/24/10 10:16 PM Re: Piano Corner stagnant [Re: argerichfan]
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I'm very sorry to say I actually haven't listened to enough of his stuff, only that he's the biggest case for the abuse which the Soviet Union did to its artists!I do know that the 4th symphony was hidden until Stalin's death, since it would provoke another denouncing on his part.

I can say though that I think his 7th symphony is fantastic!! The invasion theme and its repetitions are used to great effect.
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#1480848 - 07/24/10 10:18 PM Re: Piano Corner stagnant [Re: argerichfan]
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I'm going to see Shostakovich's 11th in the spring, along with Rach 2! I can't wait! laugh

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#1480854 - 07/24/10 10:27 PM Re: Piano Corner stagnant [Re: Orange Soda King]
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Originally Posted By: Orange Soda King
I'm going to see Shostakovich's 11th in the spring, along with Rach 2! I can't wait! laugh



Ah me too!

Speaking of Shostakovich, I've got to say my favorite piece by him is his 1st piano concerto because in the 4th movement he randomly quotes the Haydn sonata that I'm working on. I laugh every time I hear it.

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#1480866 - 07/24/10 10:45 PM Re: Piano Corner stagnant [Re: WinsomeAllegretto]
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Hehe, I saw Conrad Tao (a young pianist pianoloverus is a fan of) perform that with the Lexington Philharmonic last year. I wanted to learn it, but my professor gave me Ravel's Concerto in G. Not complaining. wink

I like the Lexington Philharmonic's new conductor a whole lot, although I really, really, REALLY wish Mei-Ann Chen had taken the job there... I have always said since her concert with them as guest conductor that she made them sound BETTER than the New York Philharmonic (you've heard me say this oh so many times, haha) when I saw them.

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#1480873 - 07/24/10 11:02 PM Re: Piano Corner stagnant [Re: Orange Soda King]
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Kabalevsky gets a bad rep from how he acted during Stalin - and it's affected his popularity, I think. Most people like stories about composers who defied the powers-that-be, tried to stand up to the regime, and subversively wrote music with so-called hidden anti-Stalin messages, etc: it's all very heroic and makes a great story, especially when a composer is denounced for writing radical music.
They usually don't like stories about composers who decided their life was more valuable than their musical integrity, which is what Kabalevsky probably figured. The thing about Kabalevsky is that he was probably not affected that much by Stalin's committe cracking down - his music was not that controversial to begin with, so he didn't have that much to fear.

So consequently, you see russian writers who perceive Kabalevsky as being a Stalinist dog, or a betrayer of his fellow composers. I don't know - that's a bit harsh, and it assumes that Kabalevsky vastly changed his compositional style in response to Stalin. It appears that much of the criticism of Kabalevsky and some of the others stem from writers or composers who were having trouble with Stalin's government, and assumed that everyone else should also feel the same way. It became convenient to dismiss some composer's music because of this, and accuse them of non-originality, simply because they weren't adopting the prevailing western notions of the time.

Even though we portray the repression as awful, because of the modern notions that individuals should be able to express themselves at any cost, I think it improved some composers. There is something to be said for wanting to keep a country's music unique, so that it stands out from the rest of the world. Russian music had been slowly losing it's individuality.
I don't know... it's very easy to see it from both sides. Sometimes adversity refines rough stones into diamonds.

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#1480877 - 07/24/10 11:04 PM Re: Piano Corner stagnant [Re: Kuanpiano]
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Originally Posted By: Kuanpiano


Prokofiev could care less about communism, though he was severely attacked by Zhdanov in 1948.



What Prokoviev did to his 1st wife during this time was absolutely AWFUL. It's probably not well-known, and for good reason - there might be a few less Prokoviev fans out there...

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#1480878 - 07/24/10 11:06 PM Re: Piano Corner stagnant [Re: Orange Soda King]
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What? The lexphil played that last year? I thought I went to all the piano things...

You better not be complaining.

Yes, yes you do say that quite a lot.

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#1480891 - 07/24/10 11:16 PM Re: Piano Corner stagnant [Re: WinsomeAllegretto]
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Yeah! Did you see Dr. Partain play Beethoven's Choral Fantasy or André Laplante play Mozart Piano Concerto in C Major K. 467 (the one I played first movement to in Foster Music Camp recital in 2007)?

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#1480900 - 07/24/10 11:23 PM Re: Piano Corner stagnant [Re: Orange Soda King]
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I saw Choral Fantasy. That was the first time I went. I totally sat right by you. Dont you remember, lol? I remember hearing about Andre Laplante on the radio but I didn't see it.

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#1480932 - 07/25/10 12:21 AM Re: Piano Corner stagnant [Re: WinsomeAllegretto]
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In his recent Richter biography, Karl Aage Rasmussen discusses musical life in the Soviet Union very extensively, including Shostakovich's ordeal. It is far more complicated than people usually acknowledge. The Soviets could alter music scores, send pianists to shovel coal in the Gulags and deprive individuals of their livelihood by banning them from any performance or teaching jobs(check with Vladimir Feltsman). Even Richter, enfant terrible as he might have been, had no choice but to play at Stalin's funeral.
In fact Richter and many colleagues say that they have always considered Shostakovich' music to represent an autobiography of his hatred towards Stalin.In brief, the situation was quite complex and does not lend itself to snap judgments.
I highly recommend that book by the way (Northeastern University Press).

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#1480936 - 07/25/10 12:23 AM Re: Piano Corner stagnant [Re: Andromaque]
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Originally Posted By: Andromaque
In his recent Richter biography, Karl Aage Rasmussen discusses musical life in the Soviet Union very extensively, including Shostakovich's ordeal. It is far more complicated than people usually acknowledge. The Soviets could alter music scores, send pianists to shovel coal in the Gulags and deprive individuals of their livelihood by banning them from any performance or teaching jobs(check with Vladimir Feltsman). Even Richter, enfant terrible as he might have been, had no choice but to play at Stalin's funeral.
In fact Richter and many colleagues say that they have always considered Shostakovich' music to represent an autobiography of his hatred towards Stalin.In brief, the situation was quite complex and does not lend itself to snap judgments.
I highly recommend that book by the way (Northeastern University Press).


Yes, Vladimir Feltsman finally escaped Russia at one point, and I had the privilege of seeing him perform here in the United States. Quite the concert, that was! It was the first time I heard the Rite Of Spring, as well - talk about an eye-opening concert.

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#1480947 - 07/25/10 01:02 AM Re: Piano Corner stagnant [Re: WinsomeAllegretto]
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Before we get further upset about the soviets and Shostokovich, maybe we should become aware that we in the west had our own cold war repressions. We might ask whatever happened to those Whitmanesque musical celebrants of American Democracy, the likes of Mark Blitstein, Ray Harris, William Schuman, and the lone survivor, Aaron Copeland? The high and the low point of Copeland's career was "Connotations," commissioned for the opening of Lincoln Center in, I think, 1961--the high point because he mooned that western cold war audience and gave them a resounding dodecaphonic raspberry. Aaron will always be my hero for that magnificent gesture, even as the critics attempt to trivialize him, even as they accuse him of confecting false american idioms and pastiches. When he gave those ba...rds the bird, it was an all American Bronx Cheer. Viva Aaron Copeland.

But it was also the low point, because"Connotations" signaled that that group of composers was no longer ideologically acceptable in the west, and was to be replaced...replaced by Carter, Babbit and Cage, and the like. What an f...ing hollow victory that was. Music by mathematics, or music without music at all, or by the rules of chance, notes chosen by the casting of sticks, no heart, no soul, music umperformable, or not in need of performance because the music was a repressive and insulting silence, music without an audience, music which turned up its nose to the very idea of human love. Music eviscerated. Music in search of itself and finding nothing.

So in the denial of the reality of our own cold war experience, we get upset about the soviets. Damn, damn and triple damn, the soviets, in spite of their methods of repression, left the nation with a music the Russion nation seems to love, while we in the west have music from the cold war period that leaves us, well...cold...as cold as a mathematical formula. We prefer Shostokovich.

I'm well aware that most readers have no idea what I'm talking about, yet this happened right here in the west, and some of us are old enough to have lived through it--and it's a scandal. Oh, we know all sorts of things about the soviets, and in great detail--we talk about their failings as if we lived and experienced the soviet union ourselves, even though is was ten or fifteen thousand miles away and distorted by mammoth disinformation campaigns shooting both ways that are still in play. We seem to know about them, but not about us.

Just thought I'd stop by to stink the place up a bit before I retreat for another two months or so.

Tomasino
(previously disguised as a mild mannered liberal).
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#1480980 - 07/25/10 04:37 AM Re: Piano Corner stagnant [Re: tomasino]
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You have all been busy today I see, wow, pretty interesting stuff to read before bed!!

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#1481018 - 07/25/10 08:13 AM Re: Piano Corner stagnant [Re: WinsomeAllegretto]
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Originally Posted By: WinsomeAllegretto
I saw Choral Fantasy. That was the first time I went. I totally sat right by you. Dont you remember, lol? I remember hearing about Andre Laplante on the radio but I didn't see it.


Oh. I'm very forgetful... Well, the only thing that would have made the Chen/Laplante concert better is if he played a bigger romantic concerto, but that's okay.

This spring is going to be the best! laugh

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