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#1484427 - 07/30/10 06:40 AM Yamaha P85 scale tunning for better sound
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Hi,
What do you think about the default tunning of Yamaha P85? I discovered that tunning transpose produces a much better and clear sound. (tip: press [DEMO]+[METRONOME] B2)

My prefered tunnig for "Piano" is:
Transpose -1:
Touch Sensitivy: Soft
Reverbe Type: Stage
Reverb Depth: 20

Keep in note that this depends on the phisical location of your DP. So take some time chossing diferent combinations of this measures.
So, what is your tunning?


Edited by Carlos CC (07/30/10 06:41 AM)
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#1484448 - 07/30/10 08:11 AM Re: Yamaha P85 scale tunning for better sound [Re: CarlosCC]
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I find when I use the transpose function to make the keyboard a half step lower, it sounds a half step lower.

I've always found that for some strange reason.
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#1484450 - 07/30/10 08:19 AM Re: Yamaha P85 scale tunning for better sound [Re: Dave Horne]
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Interesting.

With transpose set to -1, I wonder how the piano sounds when playing everything one semitone higher up the keyboard? wink

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#1484630 - 07/30/10 01:03 PM Re: Yamaha P85 scale tunning for better sound [Re: CarlosCC]
Martin C. Doege Offline
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Originally Posted By: Carlos CC

My prefered tunnig for "Piano" is:
Transpose -1:
Touch Sensitivy: Soft
Reverbe Type: Stage
Reverb Depth: 20


I also prefer 415 Hz tuning over 440 Hz. Given historic pitch standards, a lower tuning might correspond more closely to what the composers had in mind, especially for Baroque music.

As for reverb, I always turn that off when playing over speakers. It's decent via headphones, but when combined with the reverb of a real room it doesn't sound that great.

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#1484712 - 07/30/10 03:19 PM Re: Yamaha P85 scale tunning for better sound [Re: Martin C. Doege]
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If the truth be known, Bach always preferred his reverb setting around 20 as well.

A thread about let off and digital pianos and now Baroque tuning, sorry, tunning and digital pianos. smile
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#1485040 - 07/31/10 05:11 AM Re: Yamaha P85 scale tunning for better sound [Re: Dave Horne]
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Originally Posted By: Dave Horne

A thread about let off and digital pianos and now Baroque tuning, sorry, tunning and digital pianos. smile


If you think that's an obscure tuning topic, you probably haven't read this! smile

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#1485052 - 07/31/10 05:49 AM Re: Yamaha P85 scale tunning for better sound [Re: Martin C. Doege]
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Indeed, 528Hz is at the heart of everything. It is the difference between making love not war. It is the energy driving universal prosperity; the bioenergy of health and longevity. It is the harmonic vibration of self-esteem or self-love that lifts your heart and Divine voice in harmony with heaven. There is nothing missing or broken in this loving perfection. When you are in it, you are in tune with your creative spirit, and everything just flows in perfect rhythm and rhyme.

universal prosperity .... bioenergy .... harmonic vibration of self-esteem .... hmmmmmmm

My crystal pyramid needs to be tuned. Would it still work effectively if it were tuned to Baroque tuning? I bought my crystal in the US where the AC frequency is 60Hz. Over here it's 50Hz. I have noticed it now works less effectively. It does seem to hold its tune better when the humidity is controlled. Am I imagining this or have you noticed that as well? cool

I listened to some of the video in that link. I was surprised to learn that water has consciousnesses. I once met a guy on vacation who sold motor oil, but not just any kind of motor oil, this oil was ionized.

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#1485077 - 07/31/10 07:10 AM Re: Yamaha P85 scale tunning for better sound [Re: Dave Horne]
Martin C. Doege Offline
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And they never say which note should be tuned to 528 Hz. A4=417 Hz I get, but the 528 Hz thing less so.

But it is true that a lower tuning makes music like Bach's more relaxing and meditative. The higher the pitch, the more aggressive the piece sounds. I suppose just as in breathing, deep and slow is better for you. smile

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#1485099 - 07/31/10 08:55 AM Re: Yamaha P85 scale tunning for better sound [Re: Martin C. Doege]
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A lower tuning gets nullified the closer you get to the equator. smile
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#1485135 - 07/31/10 10:12 AM Re: Yamaha P85 scale tunning for better sound [Re: Dave Horne]
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You have to go to the "Technology" tab to find out the details:

"There are now rumors Haydn’s 96th was called “The Miracle” symphony because the powerful resonance frequency vibrated a crystal chandelier so violently it dropped off the ceiling WITHOUT injuring anyone in the audience."

Obviously, this was simply by bad luck. These days, we explain these failures with the expression, "That's not a bug--- it's a feature."

There were further particulars about these secrets of vibration and frequency, revealed in the book "Grand Obsession." I would quote the section, but I gave the book away and never asked for it back.


Edited by Jeff Clef (07/31/10 10:14 AM)
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