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#1497915 - 08/17/10 01:43 PM Re: Kawai CN-33 Arrived ! [Re: bluebilly]
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My CN-33 arrived this morning, so far I've managed to get it to the entrance to my study by myself after lugging it up two flights of stairs with a half landing in between, don't try this at home, I'm 6'4" and last time I looked in the mirror, 16 stone of muscle. I'm now waiting on one of my son-in-laws to help me lift it onto it's stand, I'm not looking forward to it, he's bigger than me and my daughter often describes as being like "Frank Spenser"...ooch!!.
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#1497925 - 08/17/10 01:54 PM Re: Kawai CN-33 Arrived ! [Re: bluebilly]
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Is "Frank Spenser" someone clumsy?

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#1497932 - 08/17/10 01:59 PM Re: Kawai CN-33 Arrived ! [Re: superwang]
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Originally Posted By: superwang
Is "Frank Spenser" someone clumsy?


Any Brits around will know the Frank Spencer Guy from the TV shows....he was "clumsy". grin
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#1498587 - 08/18/10 12:37 PM Re: Kawai CN-33 Arrived ! [Re: bluebilly]
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I finally got my piano set up, my daughter helped lift the main unit onto the stand, not that difficult but it would have been awkward for one to handle. I haven't put it into it's final position yet I couldn't wait to try it out. I've settled on H1 for the touch setting but need to keep tying other settings to find my favourites.
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#1498611 - 08/18/10 01:23 PM Re: Kawai CN-33 Arrived ! [Re: bluebilly]
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Congrats bluebilly, at last eh! Any chance of a foto or two? This weekend .... smile

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#1498854 - 08/18/10 06:26 PM Re: Kawai CN-33 Arrived ! [Re: spanishbuddha]
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Originally Posted By: spanishbuddha
Congrats bluebilly, at last eh! Any chance of a foto or two? This weekend .... smile

Yep, once I get it into it's final position I'll take a photo, it's in a tiny room and I'm trying to rearrange furniture. The ideal place was in front of the window but it faces West and I get the Sun pouring through it in the latter half of the day.
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#1499748 - 08/20/10 07:53 AM Re: Kawai CN-33 Arrived ! [Re: bluebilly]
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I finally manoeuvred the piano into it's finished position, and took a photo, I couldn't get far enough away to take a full width shot, the room is so small....sorry about the sloppy shot, I wa balancing on my heels. smile



My old piano stool doesn't colour match but I got a matching adjustable bench with the piano so I might change them over, the new one wouldn't take up so much room. I'm playing "To a Wild Rose" to test the piano settings, a kind of middle of the road type of music...and at my level. I really like being able to save settings once I've decided which ones I like. Due to the size of the room I can't use the volume above the level of the third dot but I had the same thing with my previous piano, not a problem, especially when I wear headphones. I'm just going to experiment with string resonance, the one big difference I notice between the sound of a DP and an Acoustic so a nice additional function on the CN-33.
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#1499783 - 08/20/10 09:33 AM Re: Kawai CN-33 Arrived ! [Re: bluebilly]
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Thanks for sharing. Interesting bench. At some point you're gonna have to take the protection off the pedals smile I've still got the protection on the display tho'.

Mine is also in a small room, possibly a bit larger than yours and I don't think I've had the volume above half way.

At first I though it was a shame you can only save one default piano sound setting, but I've since found I switch piano sounds around quite a lot to suit the different types of music I try to play.

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#1499926 - 08/20/10 01:46 PM Re: Kawai CN-33 Arrived ! [Re: spanishbuddha]
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Originally Posted By: spanishbuddha
Thanks for sharing. Interesting bench. At some point you're gonna have to take the protection off the pedals smile I've still got the protection on the display tho'.

Mine is also in a small room, possibly a bit larger than yours and I don't think I've had the volume above half way.

At first I though it was a shame you can only save one default piano sound setting, but I've since found I switch piano sounds around quite a lot to suit the different types of music I try to play.


My user manual says to remove the plastic film from the display but as far as I can tell there is no film on it.
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#1499928 - 08/20/10 01:50 PM Re: Kawai CN-33 Arrived ! [Re: bluebilly]
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Originally Posted By: spanishbuddha
Thanks for sharing. Interesting bench. At some point you're gonna have to take the protection off the pedals smile I've still got the protection on the display tho'.

Mine is also in a small room, possibly a bit larger than yours and I don't think I've had the volume above half way.

At first I though it was a shame you can only save one default piano sound setting, but I've since found I switch piano sounds around quite a lot to suit the different types of music I try to play.


My user manual says to remove the plastic film from the display but as far as I can tell there is no film on it.
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Yes there is, I just peeled it off. grin
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#1500127 - 08/20/10 08:26 PM Re: Kawai CN-33 Arrived ! [Re: bluebilly]
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Congratulations on your new piano bluebilly, and thank you for posting that 'up close and personal' photo. wink

I'm glad that you were able to assemble the CN33 with your daughter (rather than Frank Spenser...), and that it fits snuggly into your room.

However, even though you have that lovely new piano to enjoy, please don't neglect to ride your Dawes - at least, not until the summer and autumn have passed.

Cheers,
James
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#1500282 - 08/21/10 04:03 AM Re: Kawai CN-33 Arrived ! [Re: Kawai James]
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Hi James, I'm afraid I will be locked in with my new piano for a few days so the bike will have a breather. I was just going register my piano with Kawai for the warranty is there somewhere on-line one can do this?
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#1500283 - 08/21/10 04:07 AM Re: Kawai CN-33 Arrived ! [Re: bluebilly]
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bluebilly,

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I was just going register my piano with Kawai for the warranty is there somewhere on-line one can do this?


No, I'm afraid not - just the good old fashioned method of paper, pen, and carrier pigeon.

Cheers,
James
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#1500523 - 08/21/10 03:53 PM Re: Kawai CN-33 Arrived ! [Re: Kawai James]
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Originally Posted By: Kawai James
bluebilly,

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I was just going register my piano with Kawai for the warranty is there somewhere on-line one can do this?


No, I'm afraid not - just the good old fashioned method of paper, pen, and carrier pigeon.

Cheers,
James
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Hmmm... I didn't know about this. How's it done? In my case I bought it from a local store and they said they would handle the warranty for me and with Kawai.

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#1500754 - 08/22/10 01:44 AM Re: Kawai CN-33 Arrived ! [Re: spanishbuddha]
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Originally Posted By: spanishbuddha
Originally Posted By: Kawai James
bluebilly,

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I was just going register my piano with Kawai for the warranty is there somewhere on-line one can do this?


No, I'm afraid not - just the good old fashioned method of paper, pen, and carrier pigeon.

Cheers,
James
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Hmmm... I didn't know about this. How's it done? In my case I bought it from a local store and they said they would handle the warranty for me and with Kawai.

That's right, your retailer should honour the warranty, at least for the first year. However, in these troubled times, remember Woolworth's, who'd have thought it? My German supplier gives a three year on site warranty also but I thought it a good idea to register my piano with Kawai. HERE'S a blank form to complete and return to Kawai in Milton Keynes, this form came with a Kawai piano I bought for my granddaughter awhile ago, not with my present piano.



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#1500764 - 08/22/10 02:19 AM Re: Kawai CN-33 Arrived ! [Re: bluebilly]
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Originally Posted By: bluebilly
Originally Posted By: spanishbuddha
Originally Posted By: Kawai James
bluebilly,

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I was just going register my piano with Kawai for the warranty is there somewhere on-line one can do this?


No, I'm afraid not - just the good old fashioned method of paper, pen, and carrier pigeon.

Cheers,
James
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Hmmm... I didn't know about this. How's it done? In my case I bought it from a local store and they said they would handle the warranty for me and with Kawai.

That's right, your retailer should honour the warranty, at least for the first year. However, in these troubled times, remember Woolworth's, who'd have thought it? My German supplier gives a three year on site warranty also but I thought it a good idea to register my piano with Kawai. HERE'S a blank form to complete and return to Kawai in Milton Keynes, this form came with a Kawai piano I bought for my granddaughter awhile ago, not with my present piano.
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Although, thinking about it, I may have downloaded that form from the Kawai website at the time....senior moment perhaps?
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#1500765 - 08/22/10 02:29 AM Re: Kawai CN-33 Arrived ! [Re: bluebilly]
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As my piano was purchased from outside the UK it may be my completed form will not be validated, I posted it anyway.
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#1500823 - 08/22/10 06:26 AM Re: Kawai CN-33 Arrived ! [Re: bluebilly]
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Thanks for the warranty form.

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#1501531 - 08/23/10 11:48 AM Re: Kawai CN-33 Arrived ! [Re: spanishbuddha]
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Just a thought, we Hi-Jacked Fred Lierman's thread, sorry Fred.
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#1507584 - 09/02/10 06:04 AM Re: Kawai CN-33 Arrived ! [Re: Fred Lierman]
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Thanks to the thread for help in purchasing my CN-33. Followed the advice from another thread (highlighted in this thread) about Sheargold. I bought from there for a princely sum of 1200 GBP with a free set of headphones as well. However, it doesn't come with a bench and the ones they have are way outside my budget.

I am on a search for a bench now - but wondered what peoples thoughts were between an adjustable bench or a fixed bench. I'm an adult but the piano is also for my 7 year old daughter to learn on. I can see the benefit of adjustment but a fixed bench usually has storage (great benefit - we live in a flat and any additional storage like this is welcome). Would a fixed bench be ok for my daughter?

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#1507617 - 09/02/10 07:45 AM Re: Kawai CN-33 Arrived ! [Re: Fred Lierman]
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Congratulations on the new piano -- it's beautiful! Hope you enjoy!
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#1507620 - 09/02/10 07:50 AM Re: Kawai CN-33 Arrived ! [Re: Fred Lierman]
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He Ak888, I also just ordered the CN33 (a few days ago from a Dutch retailer). You seem to be located in the UK so i'd like to suggest the following: the adjustable bench from Thomann for only 55 euros! I received it today and it looks perfect! Here's the link http://www.thomann.de/gb/thomann_kb10bm.htm?sid=dc9a5fcfaeb0d48bc89c6cf58ab0f483

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#1507678 - 09/02/10 10:19 AM Re: Kawai CN-33 Arrived ! [Re: Fred Lierman]
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ak888, congratulations on your new piano!

Regarding your query, I learnt to play on a fixed bench (with lots of space inside for scales and those dreaded music theory books...), but I definitely see the benefits of an adjustable bench.

I'm not sure if this was the point you were making, however if your daughter is struggling to reach the pedals, you may wish to look into renting a set of pedal extenders.

Ah, once you decide on the bench, please do take a shot or two of the new piano in your home.

Cheers,
James
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#1507817 - 09/02/10 01:46 PM Re: Kawai CN-33 Arrived ! [Re: ak888]
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Congratulations ak888. You and your daughter should enjoy the CN33. We'd love it if you can share photo(s) once it's in place.

I also don't have a proper bench, and am reluctant to invest in one without a back rest. I do suggest you consider an adjustable bench for yourself and daughter as the position and posture is so important. Unless of course you're handy with a saw and have lots of spare books to mount it on smile

For my own case I've been looking at drummer's thrones, but they don't really match the decor, so I am told! frown

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#1508339 - 09/03/10 10:12 AM Re: Kawai CN-33 Arrived ! [Re: Fred Lierman]
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I will post photos as soon as I order a bench! Have actually found that Thomann do an adjustable bench with storgae on top which aswers both my questions - and comes in rosewood! Bit more than what I would like to spend but would be worth it!

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#1512701 - 09/10/10 07:56 AM Re: Kawai CN-33 Arrived ! [Re: Fred Lierman]
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My CN33 arrived last wednesday after a long wait but it was well worth it, i'm absolutely adoring it!

Anyway, to fuel the discussion on this DP in this thread, i'd like to invite all of you to share your thoughts on the best settings/voices and to elaborate on that smile

I haven't tried all settings yet but I lean to the Mellow Grand 1 whenever playing.

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#1513079 - 09/10/10 08:58 PM Re: Kawai CN-33 Arrived ! [Re: Fred Lierman]
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munq, congrats on your new piano. wink

Please don't forget to post a photo once you've got the room arranged as you like it. wink

Regarding best settings/voices, it may be worth trying out some of TADutchman's CA93/CA63 layered sound suggestions. Obviously the CAs offer quite a lot more control over the tonal character of the sound, however the CNs should still sound pretty great. wink

Cheers,
James
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#1513423 - 09/11/10 03:52 PM Re: Kawai CN-33 Arrived ! [Re: Kawai James]
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After much trying and listening I've presently settled for the following settings: Piano = 1/3 (Mellow), Reverb = Stage, the rest of the settings I've left at makers default. I'm still amazed at how great this piano sounds, it makes me want to keep playing so my playing is improving rapidly.
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#1513517 - 09/11/10 07:49 PM Re: Kawai CN-33 Arrived ! [Re: Fred Lierman]
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Originally Posted By: bluebilly
I'm still amazed at how great this piano sounds, it makes me want to keep playing so my playing is improving rapidly.


That's a ringing endorsement if ever I heard one - many thanks for that bluebilly!

Cheers,
James
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#1513729 - 09/12/10 06:51 AM Re: Kawai CN-33 Arrived ! [Re: bluebilly]
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Originally Posted By: bluebilly
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After much trying and listening I've presently settled for the following settings: Piano = 1/3 (Mellow), Reverb = Stage, the rest of the settings I've left at makers default. I'm still amazed at how great this piano sounds, it makes me want to keep playing so my playing is improving rapidly.
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My two favourites are Piano 1-2 Mellow Grand and Piano 2-2 Studio Grand2. Sometimes the Mellow is too mellow for the piece and the Studio is too 'sharp' (not sure of the adjective to use, maybe also 'attack') for the piece; then there is the fun of layering them on top of each other and varying the degree of mellow or sharpness that comes through. Sorry for the poor descriptions, you can tell I don't have a musical background and the ageing ears aren't too clear any more either. But as bluebilly says this is a great DP and the sounds and music it can make are fantastic.

Edit to add I've just discovered you can save the selected layering of sounds. That's really good.


Edited by spanishbuddha (09/12/10 06:55 AM)

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