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What are some of your favorite themes, melodies, or parts of pieces? I'll name a few of mine:

-Beethoven: Opening theme of the 3rd movement of the Waldstein sonata
-Chopin: Main theme of 4th Ballade
-Schumann: Beginning of Carnival (that 2-chord motif reminds me of D major coda of 3rd movement of Rach)
-Liszt: The huge D major entry in the B Minor Sonata three or four minutes in (Grandioso)
-Brahms: The galloping octaves parts in Brahm's Scherzo for violin and piano.
-Busoni: 2:30 in THIS video. Part of the third movement of Busoni's piano concerto.
-Ginastera: B Major part of the last movement of the first sonata. (Left hand octaves, right hand arpeggio/chord sort of things.)
-Griffes: Beginning theme of White Peacock

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I have tons of favorite melodes and themes...I'll probably think of them later.

As for favorite PART of a piece, there's this certain part in Mozart's piano concerto 21 that just gets me every time. I don't know how to describe what part it is except that it's about 4:45-4:50 in this video and it comes back a couple times later.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5HecOfJxb4

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Obermann Valley by Liszt: The una corda in C major!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZxetM32JAE&feature=related
Right at the beginning of the youtube video!

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Right now I'm obsessed with the theme from Brahms-Haydn variaions.



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The very beginning of Rach 1 laugh .Makes me want to boogie!

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Lyrical theme of the 4th movement of Prokofiev's second concerto, slow part of Chopin's 4th scherzo, the last section of the Waldstein rondo when the theme goes in minor key in prestissimo (pretty damn hard to play too).



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Ahh, ditto what winsome said. So many themes/melodies running through my head, its hard to pick one. Here are a few (few more to come):

Schubert Piano Sonata in a minor, D 784, first movement, second theme

Bach, Art of Fugue theme and all it's variations.

Oration and fugue, Beethoven op 110

Messiaen Quartet for the End of Time, movement 5, praise to the eternity of Jesus

Purcell, keyboard suite 8 in F major, minuet

Theme to symphonic etudes.

"A little too serious" from Kinderszenen, op 15

and of course, Regard du Pere, and all of the themes in Regards.

trillions more... laugh

Good topic

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Beethoven, 7th Symphony, 2nd Movement. So happy... confused



I don't know what that lady has to do with it, though.. OH WELL!

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Originally Posted by WinsomeAllegretto
.....there's this certain part in Mozart's piano concerto 21 that just gets me every time. I don't know how to describe what part it is except that it's about 4:45-4:50 in this video and it comes back a couple times later.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5HecOfJxb4

In my little opinion smile .......GREAT JOB.

In other words: I agree. From when I first heard it, and ever since, it has struck me as simply, miraculously spectacular.

When I worked on the piece, I would play that little part over and over, way more than I needed to, just because of how great it was and how much I loved playing it.

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What great picks all around on here!

And I'm 'glad' to see that nobody yet mentioned my #1:

2nd theme of 1st movement of Chopin's 3rd Sonata (hope that's not too many numbers). ha

In honor of that Mozart C major concerto posted by Winsome smile let's do Lipatti again:
(it's at 1:25)


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Another one: Couperin, 'Les Baricades Misterieuses' - I think it works equally well on harpsichord and piano. It's a simple piece, but boy it is mesmerizing - it's hard to believe this was composed so long ago. It boggles my mind, to this day.


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Originally Posted by Orange Soda King
-Chopin: Main theme of 4th Ballade....

As long as we're also doing 'fragments' as well as melodies, what about the 2 measures at 8:09 on here:



Might be my favorite 2 measures anywhere.

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Ahh, those two measures are AMAZING!

I also like the buildup, the sweeping arpeggios, and the arrival to F Minor with the chords afterward.

There are parts in this piece similar to Ballade 2... The chromatic scales in the left hand right before the sweeping arpeggios at 8:36, and a section at 3:44 is like the beginning of Ballade 2.

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Starting at 4:13


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Brahms Ballade op 118 no 3. I love the middle section melody with it's lovely tensions and releases. Just wonderful.

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I couldn't say anyone as my favorite. I do urge people however to listen to Beethoven's Op10/2 2nd mvt. ! Its got alot of meaning to me, I would like to hear other people's opinion about it!

edit: here is a youtube video of it, else nobody is going to listen to it it seems:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWTaa0UE2eA

Its better played by Andras Schiff, but he's not on youtube.

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Scriabin - Fantasie Op. 28

The theme at 1:40 - 2:05 that later returns in the climax from 4:05 - 5:06, which is my favorite moment in all piano music I've heard so far....and everything else about the whole piece is awesome too.




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Originally Posted by Mark_C
Originally Posted by Orange Soda King
-Chopin: Main theme of 4th Ballade....

As long as we're also doing 'fragments' as well as melodies, what about the 2 measures at 8:09 on here:



Might be my favorite 2 measures anywhere.


Yes, that is a great moment, that is, when Zimerman plays it. laugh

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Thanks mattardo for that piece, it is amazing!


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Scriabin - Etude Op. 8 No. 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpVGKnrLz-Y

the part from 0:27 - 1:00 is so wonderful I get goosebumps everytime



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Originally Posted by babama
Scriabin - Fantasie Op. 28....

Thanks for the video and the pin-pointing of those parts.
Great piece.

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I love the Scriabin Fantasy! It was one of the pieces on my graduate recital last year.

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Is that scarlet johansen btw?


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I think Rachmaninov was an outstanding melodist.One of my favorites is the clarinet solo from the adagio of his second symphony.I actually took up the clarinet a few years ago for the express purpose of learning that solo, but it didn't work out too well.Just producing a decent tone is a work of art.
The clarinetist on this Ashkenazy recording has been criticised quite a bit over the years, and they may have a point, but overall it's my favorite recording of this symphony.

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Ok I seriously just can't get enough of this melody, it just reaches out and touches my soul. A perfect example of a Beethoven melody. It shows the drama, the reaching higher and higher, but in the end being human, and returning (melody folding in itself). Its just... wow

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvaLDtf5JW8


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Originally Posted by Victor25
Ok I seriously just can't get enough of this melody, it just reaches out and touches my soul. A perfect example of a Beethoven melody. It shows the drama, the reaching higher and higher, but in the end being human, and returning (melody folding in itself). Its just... wow

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvaLDtf5JW8


The youtube description for that video says "Music like this makes me want to live for a million years..."

I like that.

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The vast majority of the 1st movement of Chopin's piano sonata no.2 and the trio section of the 2nd movement. Also the opening section of Schumann's Humoreske


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oh and the first movement of Beethoven's sonata no.28 and the last few pages of Franz Liszt's Vallee D'obermann

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the Trio of the Scherzo of Brahms's 2nd pianotrio
the beginnig of Brahms's 1st pianotrio
the slow movement's theme (and variations) of Beethoven's Archduke-pianotrio
Paolo's and Francesca's loveduet in F. da R. by Rachmaninov
In questa reggia, Turandot, Puccini
Che gelida manina, Bohème, Puccini
Vissi d'arte, ...e lucevan le stelle, Tosca, Puccini
Prélude op.45, Chopin
2nd theme 1st mov, trio 2nd mov, 3rd mov sonata 3 Chopin
from 'Starke Scheite schichtet mir dort' till the end of Götterdämmerung
Isoldens Liebestod, also by Wagner
cantata 118, Erbarme dich, Goldbergs theme, J.S.B.
Ich bin der Welt abhanden gekommen, 5th symf. Adagietto, 6th symf. Andante, coda 2nd symf., 'blicket auf' from 8th, Mahler
2nd theme Alkan's concerto
intro Fauré's Ballade
Halleluyah sung by Jeff B.
there's no end to this...


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Originally Posted by Victor25
Is that scarlet johansen btw?


I think that's what it said when I found it.

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Originally Posted by babama
Scriabin - Fantasie Op. 28

The theme at 1:40 - 2:05 that later returns in the climax from 4:05 - 5:06, which is my favorite moment in all piano music I've heard so far....and everything else about the whole piece is awesome too.





Good choice!!!


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Originally Posted by timmyab
I think Rachmaninov was an outstanding melodist.One of my favorites is the clarinet solo from the adagio of his second symphony.

While I am a pianist (well, I play the piano decently enough), my musical tastes run more toward the orchestral. The Rachmaninoff (sp?) clarinet theme from the Second Symphony is just heart-melting.

But if I started listing, I would never stop. Just think about things like the last movement of Mahler's Third, when the main theme returns with the pianissimo solo trumpet. This brings me to tears every time I hear it.

OK. Enough maudlin stuff from me.

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I'm sure Beethoven wouldn't mind haha.


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Rachmaninov's Prelude in B Minor has a a nice theme. I like how it's consistent, yet develops adventerously without seeming repetitive. Sometimes I wonder how the heck he did it and I think "dang, there goes another genius idea taken." He always made it seem like there's so many possiblities in music.. and he discovered most of them. It's one of the best melodies I can remember. I liked the melody from Prelude in G Major aswell.

One of my biggest challenges I have is creating a nice melody of my own that doesn't sound like it came from Rach. I guess I have to consider the fact that using the same rythmic scheme (syncopated triplets) isn't necessarily stealing ideas.

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