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#1492570 - 08/10/10 11:31 AM Bösndofer?
PianistOne111 Offline
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One day during my trip to Taiwan, I walked in a music store and saw...

And I said...
"WTF琴 is that?"
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#1492582 - 08/10/10 11:57 AM Re: Bösndofer? [Re: PianistOne111]
PianoWorksATL Offline
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Yamaha, fire up your attorneys! Trademark infringement and counterfeiting, etc. was the subject of another major article in Music Trades - Fighting Chinese Fakes.
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#1492601 - 08/10/10 12:25 PM Re: Bösndofer? [Re: PianoWorksATL]
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I can't see from the photo. Did it have the extra keys down on the bass? laugh
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#1492606 - 08/10/10 12:27 PM Re: Bösndofer? [Re: PianoWorksATL]
MusicBud Offline
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Wow, a Boxxdofer upright ! smile
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#1492608 - 08/10/10 12:27 PM Re: Bösndofer? [Re: La Vega]
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No. Otherwise I would remember.
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#1492617 - 08/10/10 12:38 PM Re: Bösndofer? [Re: PianistOne111]
Uncle George Offline
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It actually doesn't read Bösendorfer, but the intention is clear... I wonder what did they print on the iron plate.




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#1492619 - 08/10/10 12:40 PM Re: Bösndofer? [Re: Uncle George]
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Ah, just like the good old days of piano naming! I have a Chickering Bros. grand to tune today.
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#1492973 - 08/10/10 07:58 PM Re: Bösndofer? [Re: BDB]
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Loc: NC, US
That's blasphemous. smile
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#1492974 - 08/10/10 08:01 PM Re: Bösndofer? [Re: samtheman5566]
BDB Offline
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In fact, Chickering Bros. was another branch of the family, but they were a different company. They were in Chicago.
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#1492983 - 08/10/10 08:11 PM Re: Bösndofer? [Re: Jbyron]
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How about

Boozandorfor

pronounced booze-and-or-for

Hehe

Someone email this to Bosendorfer!
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#1493052 - 08/10/10 09:50 PM Re: Bösndofer? [Re: Brandon_W_T]
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I think it is Bos'n-dorfer, from a town of seafarers.
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#1493081 - 08/10/10 10:39 PM Re: Bösndofer? [Re: BDB]
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Maybe its just a typo!

laugh
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#1493087 - 08/10/10 10:47 PM Re: Bösndofer? [Re: Brandon_W_T]
Philpot321 Offline
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I guess thats taiwan for ya...
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#1493105 - 08/10/10 11:13 PM Re: Bösndofer? [Re: Philpot321]
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Bozodorker...
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#1493224 - 08/11/10 06:05 AM Re: Bösndofer? [Re: Jbyron]
Rich Galassini Offline
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Clearly this is not a Bosendorfer piano.

The attempt is comical to me. Could anyone actually think they are buying a Bosendorfer if they invest in this beast??
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#1493682 - 08/11/10 05:36 PM Re: Bösndofer? [Re: Rich Galassini]
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Loc: Belgium
Unless the pronounciation of 'Bösendorfer' in Chinese is rather problematic and that a slippery of the tongue is easily made I would be more concerned to know if the Yamaha that is being offered by this dealer is genuine.

schwammerl.

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#1493686 - 08/11/10 05:42 PM Re: Bösndofer? [Re: schwammerl]
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As I said about another piano, it is a lawsuit waiting to happen.
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#1493922 - 08/12/10 12:27 AM Re: Bösndofer? [Re: PianistOne111]
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Loc: Ann Arbor, MI
Bösndofer...that's Mandarin for "fake".
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#1494068 - 08/12/10 07:46 AM Re: Bösndofer? [Re: PianistOne111]
john gill Offline
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Registered: 11/12/08
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Loc: Perth Western Australia
Hello everybody,
Looking at the Bosndofer, The style reminds me extremely so of a piano that I used to use on a trolley to entertain on mobile gigs. The strange thing is that the piano I had was a Klinger which wasmade in Vienna. When I bought the piano it had a store sticker on the fall when read "Glenns Music " If I remember the city was Pretoria.
Does anybody know anything of Klinger pianos??? I cannot seem to find any record of them and just wondered if they were a stencil.

The date I cannot remember although it was written on the keys..
For a small upright it did have a very good sound in spits of the soundboard being in terrible shape.

For me the mystrey deepens.
Thanks Guys

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#1494144 - 08/12/10 10:23 AM Re: Bösndofer? [Re: john gill]
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Registered: 07/31/09
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Loc: Pretoria, South Africa
John,

I live in Pretoria and have never heard of a "Glenn's Music" store.
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#1495761 - 08/14/10 10:20 AM Re: Bösndofer? [Re: PianistOne111]
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Even though the name is spelled wrong that appears to be a very ornate upright. Is it possible it is a Bosendorfer and the original lettering or portions of it came off and they misspelled when replacing the letters?

A Bosendorfer expert would know in an instant.

Bech
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#1495763 - 08/14/10 10:27 AM Re: Bösndofer? [Re: Bech]
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It is in no way a Bosendorfer. Not even close.
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#1495777 - 08/14/10 11:02 AM Re: Bösndofer? [Re: Bech]
Rich Galassini Offline
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Originally Posted By: Bech
Even though the name is spelled wrong that appears to be a very ornate upright. Is it possible it is a Bosendorfer and the original lettering or portions of it came off and they misspelled when replacing the letters?

A Bosendorfer expert would know in an instant.

Bech


The piano is NOT a Bosendorfer Bech - in any way, shape, or form.
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