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#1494194 - 08/12/10 11:59 AM I found the fastest way to learn the piano - have you?
Tom Jeffrey Junior Member Registered: 01/28/10 Posts: 5 Loc: Currently England	Hey all! Glad to see the forums thriving and all well and excited about learning the piano! I recently discovered the fastest way to learning piano or keyboard, and like you, we were surprised by result! You can find out the answer (a must see for any beginner) on our blog by clicking here It would be interesting to find out your response, what have you found to be the fastest way of learning the piano? As after all everyone is different. Some prefer traditional some modern and increasing a mix! Whatever works for you keep doing it! Tom Edited by Ken Knapp (08/13/10 08:52 AM) Edit Reason: advertising removed
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#1494206 - 08/12/10 12:11 PM Re: I found the fastest way to learn the piano - have you? [Re: Tom Jeffrey]
Rui725 500 Post Club Member Registered: 11/19/09 Posts: 947	Thanks.
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#1494216 - 08/12/10 12:22 PM Re: I found the fastest way to learn the piano - have you? [Re: Rui725]
Victor25 1000 Post Club Member Registered: 05/30/09 Posts: 1676 Loc: The Netherlands	SPAM Want to learn the piano? get a teacher _________________________ Currently working on: Perfecting the Op 2/1, studying the 27/2 last movement. Chopin Nocturne 32/2 and Posth. C#m, 'Raindrop' prelude and Etude 10/9 Repetoire: Beethoven op 2/1, 10/1(1st, 2nd), 13, 14/1, 27/1(1st, 2nd), 27/2, 28(1st, 2nd), 31/2(1st, 3rd), 49/1, 49/2, 78(1st), 79, 90, 101(1st)
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#1494271 - 08/12/10 01:19 PM Re: I found the fastest way to learn the piano - have you? [Re: Victor25]
progrmr Full Member Registered: 06/29/10 Posts: 42 Loc: Columbus OH USA	SPAMILICIOUS - IBTL
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#1494378 - 08/12/10 03:27 PM Re: I found the fastest way to learn the piano - have you? [Re: progrmr]
bluebilly Full Member Registered: 03/19/10 Posts: 243 Loc: England	- Many Moons ago I went for my first Classical Guitar lesson, one of the first things my Guitar teacher said was "I can't open a Magic Box and you leave here being able to play the Guitar, it's all about your hard work, practise and with my guidance you'll get there...eventually". Basically, there's no short cuts to learning to play a complex musical instrument. -
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#1494392 - 08/12/10 03:41 PM Re: I found the fastest way to learn the piano - have you? [Re: bluebilly]
Wizard of Oz 500 Post Club Member Registered: 08/12/09 Posts: 873	Nice blatant advertising! At least you aren't subtle.
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#1494395 - 08/12/10 03:44 PM Re: I found the fastest way to learn the piano - have you? [Re: Wizard of Oz]
Wizard of Oz 500 Post Club Member Registered: 08/12/09 Posts: 873	How about this, why don't you post a few chapters and video tutorials from your book for free here, people can try it out and determine if it actually works. I guarantee what you are teaching is nothing new, just packaged slickly like an infomercial.
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#1494502 - 08/12/10 05:46 PM Re: I found the fastest way to learn the piano - have you? [Re: Wizard of Oz]
steveMac Full Member Registered: 04/25/09 Posts: 154 Loc: El Paso, TX	I went and looked and recognize what's being offered, it looks like it is pianoforall. While I've never used pianoforall, i have heard of it and thought it was quite highly regarded. Just spamming on the boards isn't good though. _________________________
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#1494569 - 08/12/10 07:00 PM Re: I found the fastest way to learn the piano - have you? [Re: steveMac]
btcomm Full Member Registered: 02/05/07 Posts: 223 Loc: California	I doubt Robin from PianoForAll has anything to do with this. He does have a very good program though.
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#1494619 - 08/12/10 07:44 PM Re: I found the fastest way to learn the piano - have you? [Re: btcomm]
RX-Blak Full Member Registered: 10/08/09 Posts: 30 Loc: Tucson, AZ	Originally Posted By: btcomm I doubt Robin from PianoForAll has anything to do with this. He does have a very good program though. If you click on his link, learn-the-piano.com read the very top banner. It appears to indeed be pianoforall RXB
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#1494637 - 08/12/10 08:07 PM Re: I found the fastest way to learn the piano - have you? [Re: RX-Blak]
Peyton 2000 Post Club Member Registered: 06/02/06 Posts: 2124 Loc: Maine	Next we'll have the Music Man here trying to sell us the "Think Method"... _________________________ "One's real life is often the life that one does not lead."- Oscar Wilde www.youtube.com/Biffer5 www.peytonart.com
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#1494662 - 08/12/10 08:29 PM Re: I found the fastest way to learn the piano - have you? [Re: Peyton]
jotur 4000 Post Club Member Registered: 09/16/06 Posts: 4042 Loc: Santa Fe, NM	Right here in River City Cathy
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#1494986 - 08/13/10 05:38 AM Re: I found the fastest way to learn the piano - have you? [Re: btcomm]
Tom Jeffrey Junior Member Registered: 01/28/10 Posts: 5 Loc: Currently England	Dear all! Thanks for your replies, and thanks Piano world, for providing these excellent boards. I am sorry, if I came across as spam, or blatent advertising, if you did check out my blog you would see its not all advertising, and we did indeed find learning online the fastest way to learn. However I appreciate that many of you see selling online packages as non-traditional or "Spammy" so for you I apologise for posting, and hope I didn't annoy to much. Wizard of oz, suggested posting chapters online for free, this would allow you to "Evaluate the program", which I am sure lots of you would like to do! Tom Edited by Ken Knapp (08/13/10 08:54 AM) Edit Reason: remove spam
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#1495001 - 08/13/10 06:19 AM Re: I found the fastest way to learn the piano - have you? [Re: Tom Jeffrey]
Wizard of Oz 500 Post Club Member Registered: 08/12/09 Posts: 873	Tom, I think Amway is looking for some new salesmen, you'd fit right in!
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#1495007 - 08/13/10 06:36 AM Re: I found the fastest way to learn the piano - have you? [Re: Wizard of Oz]
Canonie 1000 Post Club Member Registered: 10/04/09 Posts: 1941 Loc: Australia	Tom it is against the forum rules to advertise in your posts. Your belief that your product is "excellent" or "fast" doesn't actually make it less like advertising. You can pay for an ad if you like. For more details see the forum rules - at the top right of this page. Quote: I have some exciting news for you! You can try to delete your posts by clicking the edit button, then choosing delete button. Quote: There is literally nothing to loose! _________________________ Composers manufacture a product that is universally deemed superfluous—at least until their music enters public consciousness, at which point people begin to say that they could not live without it. Alex Ross.
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#1495013 - 08/13/10 07:12 AM Re: I found the fastest way to learn the piano - have you? [Re: Canonie]
SpencerF Full Member Registered: 02/17/10 Posts: 122	Lol, "However I appreciate that many of you see selling online packages as non-traditional or "Spammy" so for you I apologise for posting, and hope I didn't annoy to much." 'but wait, let me pitch my product again anyways.' Read the forum rules before you post.
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#1495051 - 08/13/10 08:56 AM Re: I found the fastest way to learn the piano - have you? [Re: SpencerF]
Ken Knapp 1000 Post Club Member Registered: 04/18/06 Posts: 1814 Loc: Pennsylvania	Tom, No advertising means just that. It does not mean you can apologize for advertising by doing MORE advertising. You're welcome to participate in the forums but you are not allowed to turn every post into a reason to send people to your web page. Ken _________________________ Ken
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#1495095 - 08/13/10 10:12 AM Re: I found the fastest way to learn the piano - have you? [Re: Ken Knapp]
joeb84 1000 Post Club Member Registered: 12/17/09 Posts: 1338 Loc: Time Out	spam... _________________________ music is kind of like putting together pieces of a puzzle
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#1495204 - 08/13/10 01:11 PM Re: I found the fastest way to learn the piano - have you? [Re: joeb84]
ten left thumbs 2000 Post Club Member Registered: 05/22/09 Posts: 2341 Loc: Scotland	Why is this thread still here? What bothers me Tom, is that from the opening you appear to be a genuine beginner who has found a good way to learn piano. This I feel is unlikely to be true. Can a moderator please tell me why this thread is allowed? I am genuinely curious. _________________________ ... just glad I can play! www.justfingers.co.uk www.babysinging.co.uk
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#1495274 - 08/13/10 03:14 PM Re: I found the fastest way to learn the piano - have you? [Re: Tom Jeffrey]
Nikalette 1000 Post Club Member Registered: 12/22/08 Posts: 1062 Loc: California	Edited by Nikalette (08/13/10 03:14 PM)
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#1495300 - 08/13/10 03:56 PM Re: I found the fastest way to learn the piano - have you? [Re: Nikalette]
eweiss 2000 Post Club Member Registered: 02/28/09 Posts: 2393 Loc: Beautiful San Diego, CA	Weird. I though I had the fastest way to learn piano. _________________________ Play New Age Piano http://www.quiescencemusic.com
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#1495327 - 08/13/10 04:47 PM Re: I found the fastest way to learn the piano - have you? [Re: eweiss]
Emissary52 Full Member Registered: 10/17/09 Posts: 228 Loc: Monroe, NC USA	But then, the underlying question becomes, "Is the fastest way to learn the piano, the best way?" _________________________ I'm Craig, I'm retired, TGIF every day! Alfred's Masterwork Classics Vol 3 "Soldier's March", R Schumann "Sonatina in G Major", T. Attwood YDP-160, GH-170R
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#1495390 - 08/13/10 06:14 PM Re: I found the fastest way to learn the piano - have you? [Re: Emissary52]
Wizard of Oz 500 Post Club Member Registered: 08/12/09 Posts: 873	Guys I just got a PM from Tom, doing more ads!! and basically saying the same thing as above. several links to his site and an offer to try it out. It really does sound like spam.
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#1495434 - 08/13/10 07:08 PM Re: I found the fastest way to learn the piano - have you? [Re: Wizard of Oz]
Mozart79 Full Member Registered: 07/21/10 Posts: 101 Loc: Canada	It's total spam. The one thing I hate about the internet is all the spam! Like the viagra emails!! _________________________ "Music is what feeling's sound like" Adult Piano Adventures (The F.J.H Music Company) RCM Prepatory RCM Grade 1 RCM Grade 2 (working on) RCM Theory Hanon
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#1495748 - 08/14/10 09:46 AM Re: I found the fastest way to learn the piano - have you? [Re: Mozart79]
KrystalKai Full Member Registered: 06/24/10 Posts: 23 Loc: Europe	Would I still have to practice, or could I just pay for your course and become a virtuoso? I bet I could do it with very little effort - like 10 seconds a day? Is there a money-back guarantee if I fail the level 8 ABRSM exam next month? "It's like learning to play the piano." There's a reason the piano is the default example of something that requires continuous effort. I'd say there's a balance between maximizing your practice time to overcome specific difficulties and allowing yourself to enjoy playing and the process of learning. You can't ever check off "learn piano" on some to-do list. It's either something that is part of your life or it's not. _________________________ Kobrat 83 Digital Piano, working on ABRSM level 1 Please don't recommend a teacher.. it's a sore subject.
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#1507054 - 09/01/10 04:43 AM Re: I found the fastest way to learn the piano - have you? [Re: Tom Jeffrey]
RobinHall Junior Member Registered: 06/03/06 Posts: 17 Loc: Belfast Northern Ireland	Hi - Robin Hall here from Pianoforall. Was just on the forum and saw this thread. Very sorry if someone has been spamming the forum. I honestly know nothing about it. I have affiliates who promote my course and I'm afraid some of them haven't a clue about responsible advertisng - I will try to sort it out. I'm sure you can see that I never spam because I have been a member of the site for quite a while now and I haven't pushed my course once. I have recommended this forum to a lot of people. Anyway - sorry again. Robin _________________________ My homepage http://www.pianoforall.com
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#1507066 - 09/01/10 05:43 AM Re: I found the fastest way to learn the piano - have you? [Re: Tom Jeffrey]
keyboardklutz Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member Registered: 05/21/07 Posts: 10856 Loc: London, UK (though if it's Aug...	Jeez, nice site. No wonder you don't have time to post! I hope you deliver a healthy technique. _________________________ snobbyish, yet maybe helpful. http://keyboardclass.blogspot.com/
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#1507095 - 09/01/10 07:44 AM Re: I found the fastest way to learn the piano - have you? [Re: Tom Jeffrey]
LaRate Full Member Registered: 01/11/10 Posts: 247 Loc: Germany	Well I really found a technique that sped up my learning at least by 50%. It s called the RA-technique. It is quite unorthodox and struck me as weird first, but once I got around what the essence is, I made tremendous progress. There's an instructional Youtube-Video from the guy who invented the technique. His english is a bit odd, but I think his instructions are easy enough to follow. The key is not to give up too early.
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#1507116 - 09/01/10 08:46 AM Re: I found the fastest way to learn the piano - have you? [Re: LaRate]
TimR 1000 Post Club Member Registered: 08/17/04 Posts: 1727 Loc: Virginia, USA	Originally Posted By: LaRate Well I really found a technique that sped up my learning at least by 50%. It s called the RA-technique. 50% is not really very much though. chang has proven mathematically his method is something 10,000 times faster. <grin> _________________________ gotta go practice
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#1507119 - 09/01/10 08:58 AM Re: I found the fastest way to learn the piano - have you? [Re: TimR]
LaRate Full Member Registered: 01/11/10 Posts: 247 Loc: Germany	Originally Posted By: TimR 50% is not really very much though. chang has proven mathematically his method is something 10,000 times faster. Well, I don't know if I can believe that, because I am no stranger to the piano... I know the rules and so does this RA-guy. I don't know if a full commitment is what Chang is thinking of, because you just don't get this from any other guy, you know? Well... eventually that's just what I'm feeling, and I got to make people understand.
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