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#1501055 - 08/22/10 03:43 PM V-Piano
1976pianoman Offline
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Registered: 08/21/10
Posts: 17
Loc: Northridge, CA
Am I the only one that is disappointed by Roland's V-Piano? It's uninspiring to play. Strangely enough - I do like the feel, in fact it may be the best feel out there.

I'm looking forward to Kawai's new stage piano TBA soon. If it disappoints, then I guess I'm going with the Yamaha CP-1.

Any thoughts? Anybody tried the NUMA with the wooden keys?

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#1501063 - 08/22/10 03:54 PM Re: V-Piano [Re: 1976pianoman]
Melodialworks Music Offline
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Registered: 07/19/05
Posts: 1309
Loc: Canada
Originally Posted By: pianoman1976
Am I the only one that is disappointed by Roland's V-Piano?


Welcome to the forum.

Have you done a search on V-Piano? You'll find lots of posts which will answer this question.

Two possible ways to search (1) search box on top left, or (2) search pull down at top, towards the right.
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#1501067 - 08/22/10 04:02 PM Re: V-Piano [Re: 1976pianoman]
Rhodie73 Offline
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Registered: 10/11/08
Posts: 143
Loc: New York
I agree with you on the V-Piano. The modeling technology is cool and very playable, but not 100% accurate. Plus at $6K, no way! I definitely prefer my RD700GXF with the SuperNatural Piano card installed in terms of accuracy at a fraction of the cost. The Yamaha CP-1 is cool but I prefer the user interface of the RD because it is so much more intuitive. Again at about $5k (the CP-1) I'd rather buy a "real living" instrument like one of the new Rhodes Mk7s. I haven't been able to try any of the Studiologic Numa series, so I can't give my opinion.

Like I mentioned in other posts, if Kawai uses the same piano technology found in their new CA93 and CA63 plus newly developed "organic" vintage electric pianos and the new RM-3 keybed in the new MP's, you can say bye bye to my RD700GXF!
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#1501094 - 08/22/10 05:19 PM Re: V-Piano [Re: Rhodie73]
Melodialworks Music Offline
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Registered: 07/19/05
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Loc: Canada
Originally Posted By: Rhodie73
I definitely prefer my RD700GXF with the SuperNatural Piano card installed in terms of accuracy at a fraction of the cost.


I agree. The SuperNatural card transforms the RD-700GX, that's for sure.
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#1501107 - 08/22/10 05:41 PM Re: V-Piano [Re: Melodialworks Music]
EssBrace Offline
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Registered: 12/01/09
Posts: 2423
Loc: Suffolk, United Kingdom
The Supernatural sound engine is in another league to everything else currently available in a technical sense...quite a compelling mix of sonic realism and good playability with nothing at all of the familiar DP shortcomings such as note stretching, audible velocity layers and looping...these last two, to a lesser or greater degree, affect ALL other sample based hardware DPs currently available.

The only other thing I'd add is that I do think the V-Piano is superior in terms of dynamics, ie, timbral change according to the player's inputs, to ANY other DP. The trade-off, which was not acceptable to me in the long run, was a sound signature (in the mid-range) that was not natural sounding enough and that quite frankly got me down. But this criticism is equally, if not more, applicable to Pianoteq - another modeled sound also highly praised for its playability.

I do get the V-Piano though...it is unique and does stuff nothing else will. But I'm not sure, at the price, I get the CP1...there is no USP with it. I have no doubt it has many qualities but there's nothing to set it apart to justify the huge cost and it is overshadowed by its little brother the CP5 in terms of value for money.

Steve
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