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#1509060 - 09/04/10 05:15 PM
Need Help Connecting PX130 to Laptop
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Hi. I am having trouble connecting my PX130 to my laptop. I already have the USB cable and Audacity. But when I press the key, it doesn't record to audacity. Please help me.
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#1509069 - 09/04/10 05:34 PM
Re: Need Help Connecting PX130 to Laptop
[Re: mxh91]
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hey guys, am i missing something? all i did was plug this usb cable ( http://www.amazon.com/Mediabridge-Hi-Spe...5992&sr=8-1) in my casio px130 and computer. i opened audacity and click the record button. when i play, it doesn't record anything. all it does is record the sound of me hitting the keys through the laptop mic. (my headphones are connected to the keyboard btw)
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#1509084 - 09/04/10 06:07 PM
Re: Need Help Connecting PX130 to Laptop
[Re: virtu]
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thanks, but it didn't quite help me. im stuck on the part where i have to find my casio device on audacity but it didn't detect it.
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#1509091 - 09/04/10 06:33 PM
Re: Need Help Connecting PX130 to Laptop
[Re: mxh91]
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mxh91:
Sorry, but it wont detect. USB-midi will not work as you want.
IF you want to use audacity to record YOU MUST connect your CASIO into line in of your computer, as:
Casio Line Out/Headphones Out -> Line In of you computer soundcard
Then open Audacity, press RECORD button and start playing.
To use USB-midi to do something like this, you will need softwares like PIANOTEQ, IVORY, and others because when you connect your Casio by USB it will send just MIDI signals and this is not SOUND its DATA (information) and that´s why you need a particular software to transform the DATA into MUSIC.
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#1509095 - 09/04/10 06:44 PM
Re: Need Help Connecting PX130 to Laptop
[Re: mxh91]
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Registered: 09/24/09
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As virtu implies, the USB signal does not carry any sound. Instead, it only captures your "keystrokes". There's simply no sound there for Audacity to record. And, as virtu says, you'll have to hook it up using analog audio connections.
The Casio web pages doesn't show a line output connection for the piano. Not good. But you can use the headphone output instead.
Since you have a laptop, you probably don't have a line input connection. You probably have a microphone input, though. Unfortunately, that will likely be mono, not stereo. And the input sensitivity is appropriate only for a microphone, not for the line output or headphone output of your piano.
So you're stuck. You'll have to get a cable that takes the stereo headphone output from the piano (probably a 1/4" plug), convert it to mono, reduce the signal level by a factor of about 1000, and feed that to the laptop's mic input (probably a 1/8" plug).
All in all, this stinks.
Unless I'm wrong about the lack of a line output, this piano is not well suited for analog audio recording.
And unless you add a sound card to your laptop, it's not suitable for stereo recording. (It's a shame ... even the cheapest desktop computer with the cheapest sound card would work fine in stereo.)
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#1509104 - 09/04/10 06:58 PM
Re: Need Help Connecting PX130 to Laptop
[Re: mxh91]
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Thank you all for explaining this me. The news is really disheartening. So in order for me to make videos with the piano sound dub onto it like this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_D5xb4Ineois for me to use the whole line in/out thing?
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#1509108 - 09/04/10 07:09 PM
Re: Need Help Connecting PX130 to Laptop
[Re: mxh91]
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mxh91:
First of all check if you have LINE IN into your soundcard (some new notebooks have MIC IN and LINE IN into same jack and via software you can change which one you want to use).
So after that you have some ways to make a video like the link that you post, let´s see some ways:
1st is using the built in music recorder and the same time that you are recording you can rec the video. After all recorded, put it together (video + music) with a video edition software. (this way you will have the best quality sound recorded and be sure that the video camera is with her mic off).
2nd is using the headphones out connect to line in of your computer, record the music at the same time that you are recording the video, and after that mix it up.
In both suggestion you must pay attention to sync everything fine (video and sound) to avoid some lags.
And... the simple way... just put a video camera in a tripod, focus you and the keyboard, smile and play rec. =)
Edited by virtu (09/04/10 07:09 PM)
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#1509119 - 09/04/10 07:34 PM
Re: Need Help Connecting PX130 to Laptop
[Re: virtu]
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mxh91:
First of all check if you have LINE IN into your soundcard (some new notebooks have MIC IN and LINE IN into same jack and via software you can change which one you want to use).
So after that you have some ways to make a video like the link that you post, let´s see some ways:
1st is using the built in music recorder and the same time that you are recording you can rec the video. After all recorded, put it together (video + music) with a video edition software. (this way you will have the best quality sound recorded and be sure that the video camera is with her mic off).
2nd is using the headphones out connect to line in of your computer, record the music at the same time that you are recording the video, and after that mix it up.
In both suggestion you must pay attention to sync everything fine (video and sound) to avoid some lags.
And... the simple way... just put a video camera in a tripod, focus you and the keyboard, smile and play rec. =)
Unfortunately, my laptop doesn't have a line in port. About your first method, I used the recorder from my Casio to record a track. When I export the track file from Casio to computer, it's in .csr format. I don't think I can put this file + my video file as one. Do you know if there's a way to connect headphone out from my casio px-130 to my microphone in on my laptop to record?
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#1509128 - 09/04/10 07:50 PM
Re: Need Help Connecting PX130 to Laptop
[Re: mxh91]
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Registered: 12/28/08
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[quote=virtu]mxh91:
Do you know if there's a way to connect headphone out from my casio px-130 to my microphone in on my laptop to record? The best way to record your the audio from a PX130 into a computer is to buy a USB or Firewire audio interface. For your purposes a cheap USB audio interface would be good eough. Price would be under $40. These will have line in and mic in. For a few bucks more you can get into the low-end of studio type audio intercfaces. The simpest one that could still work is maybe this one Lexington Alpha This unit has stereo inputs and very importantly gain control knobs. Then later to import the video from your camera and sync the audo in you editor. The other idea is that if your camera had line level audio inputs you patch the piano into the camera's audio line in/ But only high end pro cameras will have line inputs The headphoneoutputs are very close to line level, not really but you can play with the volume and gains and make it work. Back to the USB. Yes it is not audio but you can use a software virtual instrument to creat the sound. It can actually sound MUCH better this way. It your goal is 100% profesional quality then I'd go back to the USB and run the MIDI data through a softwarte instrument, which ever one you like. If you record the audio to the computer be sure and also record sound using the cmer'a built-in mic. That will make getting the computer sound sync'd to video easy, just line up the waveforms
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#1509191 - 09/04/10 09:57 PM
Re: Need Help Connecting PX130 to Laptop
[Re: ChrisA]
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[quote=virtu]mxh91:
Do you know if there's a way to connect headphone out from my casio px-130 to my microphone in on my laptop to record? The best way to record your the audio from a PX130 into a computer is to buy a USB or Firewire audio interface. For your purposes a cheap USB audio interface would be good eough. Price would be under $40. These will have line in and mic in. For a few bucks more you can get into the low-end of studio type audio intercfaces. The simpest one that could still work is maybe this one Lexington Alpha This unit has stereo inputs and very importantly gain control knobs. Then later to import the video from your camera and sync the audo in you editor. The other idea is that if your camera had line level audio inputs you patch the piano into the camera's audio line in/ But only high end pro cameras will have line inputs The headphoneoutputs are very close to line level, not really but you can play with the volume and gains and make it work. Back to the USB. Yes it is not audio but you can use a software virtual instrument to creat the sound. It can actually sound MUCH better this way. It your goal is 100% profesional quality then I'd go back to the USB and run the MIDI data through a softwarte instrument, which ever one you like. If you record the audio to the computer be sure and also record sound using the cmer'a built-in mic. That will make getting the computer sound sync'd to video easy, just line up the waveforms I see. So would Pianotech be a software virtual instrument to create sound?
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#1509221 - 09/04/10 10:47 PM
Re: Need Help Connecting PX130 to Laptop
[Re: mxh91]
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Registered: 09/24/09
Posts: 2343
Loc: Florida
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The best way to record your the audio from a PX130 into a computer is to buy a USB or Firewire audio interface. For your purposes a cheap USB audio interface would be good eough. This is probably the best solution. Not sure, though, whether this interface can handle the piano's headphone output. But there's a fair chance it will. Then later to import the video from your camera and sync the audo in you editor. There doesn't seem to be any camera here. So would Pianotech be a software virtual instrument to create sound? That would work. But it might not be worth the bother. You have to spend $99 for the Pianoteq software. Then you'll have to fiddle with the ASIO interface. Then you'll have to put up with the sound quality issues. All in all ... I think the external audio interface is the best bet for you. Simplest. Cheapest. Least hassle.
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