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#1511811 - 09/08/10 09:39 PM Re: Contemporary Piano Music - The Meadow [Re: currawong]
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Originally Posted By: currawong
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That's like saying that any book is good that gets kids to want to read. What if it is a totally bad book that just gives them a taste for bad books...how does that benefit them in any way?
Are you saying this is totally bad music? Actually, some of the books I treasured as a child were pretty poor quality, but somehow they gave me a vision of something, which led me on to seek out other books.


Oh no, sorry, I wasn't saying anything about this piece, just about that statement. And maybe I'm wrong too, it's just something I have wondered.
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#1511816 - 09/08/10 09:47 PM Re: Contemporary Piano Music - The Meadow [Re: WinsomeAllegretto]
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Originally Posted By: WinsomeAllegretto


That's like saying that any book is good that gets kids to want to read.

Exactly.
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#1511857 - 09/08/10 10:45 PM Re: Contemporary Piano Music - The Meadow [Re: JustAnotherPianist]
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Originally Posted By: JustAnotherPianist
sorry, Ed,
there's just nothing new about this. This is probably the second most overplayed chord progression in the world, after Pachelbel's Canon.

So far, I have not been impressed by the Twilight franchise. This piece, I'm afraid, doesn't do the vampire genre any justice. At all.

Please don't call something this cliche 'new and modern'.

Yeah ... but it is new. In fact, it was written in 2009 I think. If you're talking about the style of the piece, what would you have him write?
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#1511967 - 09/09/10 02:59 AM Re: Contemporary Piano Music - The Meadow [Re: eweiss]
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I can't believe that music that simple still manages to have some out-of-place unisons in the accompaniment figure for a few measures, starting at measure 20.

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#1511973 - 09/09/10 03:18 AM Re: Contemporary Piano Music - The Meadow [Re: BruceD]
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I can't comprehend the interest in and hence the proliferation of vampire films and TV series. What's the "hook"?


I don't get why vampires are more interesting than lots of other folkloric creatures, either. Maybe it is all Anne Rice's fault. But there has been some interest in them for a quite a while. There's even a 1828 vampire opera by Marschner with some pretty good music in it.

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#1512285 - 09/09/10 03:26 PM Re: Contemporary Piano Music - The Meadow [Re: eweiss]
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Originally Posted By: eweiss
Yes, but here we have a living composer whose music is inspring young people to play piano. How bad can that be?


+1

I like it. I can see this being very popular with young folks and peak an interest in playing. That is a good thing! I would find this very gratifying to play as an adult beginner too. Thank you for posting.
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#1512294 - 09/09/10 03:59 PM Re: Contemporary Piano Music - The Meadow [Re: eweiss]
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My pleasre Tiersenaddict. Actually, I'm 48 and like this music. I don't think age has a lot to do with it. smile
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#1512358 - 09/09/10 05:35 PM Re: Contemporary Piano Music - The Meadow [Re: eweiss]
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Originally Posted By: eweiss
My pleasre Tiersenaddict. Actually, I'm 48 and like this music. I don't think age has a lot to do with it. smile


You're right...age has nothing to do with it. It's all about taste. Some people have excellent taste and others...well...their taste sucks.
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#1512360 - 09/09/10 05:36 PM Re: Contemporary Piano Music - The Meadow [Re: stores]
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You're right...age has nothing to do with it. It's all about taste. Some people have excellent taste and others...well...their taste sucks.

Interesting. What music do you enjoy?
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#1512363 - 09/09/10 05:40 PM Re: Contemporary Piano Music - The Meadow [Re: eweiss]
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Originally Posted By: stores
You're right...age has nothing to do with it. It's all about taste. Some people have excellent taste and others...well...their taste sucks.

Interesting. What music do you enjoy?


Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, Chopin, Schumann, Schubert, Rachmaninoff, Prokofiev, Scriabin, Scarlatti, Handel, Rameau, Debussy, Ravel, etc. You get the picture, I'm sure.
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#1512373 - 09/09/10 05:55 PM Re: Contemporary Piano Music - The Meadow [Re: eweiss]
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Hey, I like those guys too! smile
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#1512376 - 09/09/10 05:56 PM Re: Contemporary Piano Music - The Meadow [Re: eweiss]
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Hey, I like those guys too! smile


One gold star coming your way! =)
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#1512439 - 09/09/10 07:11 PM Re: Contemporary Piano Music - The Meadow [Re: eweiss]
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but why not like Chopin and Led Zeppelin and Bach and ACDC and Schumann and Bruce S. and Haydn and Jeff Buckley?
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#1512550 - 09/09/10 10:03 PM Re: Contemporary Piano Music - The Meadow [Re: eweiss]
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I wish contemporary composers would study the older composers a little more. At least they'd think up a little more than just predictable diatonic progressions. It just seems like our progress has gone backwards. It has nothing to do with comparing classical to other genres. It's just the overall quality has decreased. It's structurally bland, harmonically elementary, melodically directionless and texturally undaring.

Is it a nice tune? Sure, but it could be a heck of allot better. Otherwise all it is IS a little "tune" rather than a fully developed work of art. When I see sheet music like that, the first thing I think is "inexperienced ameature." I'm not very prejudice (in my eyes) and I usually give everything a chance. Nonetheless, that's my perspective. They have no musical identity. I'll tell you right now, I could whip up a piece like that in 20 minutes.

It's funny because I was thinking of exploring the film score industry. I'm not sure whether or not it'll be extremely difficult or extremely easy. Either they'll reject or inexoribly welcome a new idea.

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#1512556 - 09/09/10 10:21 PM Re: Contemporary Piano Music - The Meadow [Re: pianoman6584]
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Is it a nice tune? Sure, but it could be a heck of allot better. Otherwise all it is IS a little "tune" rather than a fully developed work of art.

Isn't that enough?
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#1512579 - 09/09/10 11:50 PM Re: Contemporary Piano Music - The Meadow [Re: eweiss]
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Originally Posted By: pianoman6584
Is it a nice tune? Sure, but it could be a heck of allot better. Otherwise all it is IS a little "tune" rather than a fully developed work of art.

Isn't that enough?


Yes. For the ordinary, non-musician people whose ear isn't very well trained. We need more than just that, or we simply can't enjoy it.. At one point it becomes almost meaningless. Hey, it's not our fault, studying classical music intensely for however many years (17 in my case) can do that to you, easily.

That having said, I enjoy other good music; I love jazz (Keith Jarrett is a god), Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd.. I just don't like many tacky works.
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#1512590 - 09/10/10 12:15 AM Re: Contemporary Piano Music - The Meadow [Re: eweiss]
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My pleasre Tiersenaddict. Actually, I'm 48 and like this music. I don't think age has a lot to do with it. smile


Oh, I totally agree with you. I don't think age has anything to do with it either. What I meant to say was that I could see it being appealing to the younger generation because it is on the Twilight soundtrack and therefore getting a lot of youth exposure.
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