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#1518023 - 09/18/10 06:33 PM
"Easier" Chopin piece - need recommendation
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Hi folks, I know I "talked" about tackling Chopin months back, but I just don't think I'm ready for a huge Chopin project just yet. I'd like to "ease myself in", and plus, I need a break from these big "project pieces" that take me months to learn... I am now wrapping up my latest Joplin piece (it's in the polishing stage now), and think it's now time to take a short hiatus from ragtime. (this time I mean it..lol). Please recommend some, well-known and popular nocturnes, waltzes, marzukas, etc. from Frederic.  . Something "level 4-ish" or 5-ish (early-intermediate). I will then look them up, and determine which one I like, or better yet, please post a link to a video. Thanks in advanced!
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#1518040 - 09/18/10 07:01 PM
Re: "Easier" Chopin piece - need recommendation
[Re: CebuKid]
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Alfred Publishing's Chopin: An Introduction to His Piano Works (edited by Willard Palmer) is a well-edited collection of Chopin's easier pieces along with an introductory essay about the music and its performance. Among the famous Preludes (Op. 28), Nos. 4, 6, 7, and 20 are included here, along with several waltzes, nocturnes, mazurkas, and polonaises. Most of the pieces are only one or two pages. The complete contents are listed here.
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#1518074 - 09/18/10 08:24 PM
Re: "Easier" Chopin piece - need recommendation
[Re: CebuKid]
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op 9 no 2 tends the be a common one to learn which i wouldn't say is too tricky.
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#1518103 - 09/18/10 09:07 PM
Re: "Easier" Chopin piece - need recommendation
[Re: CebuKid]
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Registered: 09/17/10
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My teacher assigned op. 27 no. 2 as my very first Chopin piece to learn. I'm now at 4th out of 6 pages with the piece. It is tricky but less than I initially expected. As I've not played other Chopin pieces before, i can't tell if there's an esier one.
In my humble opinion, even with technically easier Chopin pieces, it is difficult musically.
Good luck!
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#1518104 - 09/18/10 09:07 PM
Re: "Easier" Chopin piece - need recommendation
[Re: CebuKid]
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My teacher assigned op. 27 no. 2 as my very first Chopin piece to learn. I'm now at 4th out of 6 pages with the piece. It is tricky but less than I initially expected. As I've not played other Chopin pieces before, i can't tell if there's an esier one.
In my humble opinion, even with technically easier Chopin pieces, it is difficult musically.
Good luck!
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Melbourne, Australia Working on: Chopin - Fantaisie Impromptu Op. 66 Rachmaninov - Prelude No. 5 Op. 23 Chopin - Etude No. 3 Op. 10 www.YouTube.com/Tubbie0075
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#1518111 - 09/18/10 09:25 PM
Re: "Easier" Chopin piece - need recommendation
[Re: Frozenicicles]
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Chopin is very different from Joplin because it really has a lot more to it than playing the notes. You need to pay attention to balance in the voices, rubato, pedaling, phrasing, and dynamics in such a way that the piano sounds like a singing instrument rather than a percussive one. I played Op. 28 No. 4 while I was doing level 7 RCM, which was my first exposure to Chopin. Starting on that one was a good experience because it allows you to work on all of the above without worrying about the difficulty of "just getting the notes." Although I hated it at the time (I thought it was deathly boring), I managed to get second place at a festival and the adjudicator really liked it. Hi Icicles, yup, I realize that Romantic/Classical requires much a much different skill-set than Joplin. I am "sort of" classically trained in a sense having played mostly classical pieces (Bach, Beethoven, Listz, etc.) as a kid.  In my return to piano, I started to play "where I left off" classical-wise with easier Beethoven pieces, but haven't delved into Chopin yet. I still do love ragtime of course because it suits my "mechanical" and percussive nature (I played the drums too), and it's kind of cool being the minority here.  I do love Chopin, though, and really want to start playing and learning his works. Come October, I'll be in "year 3" as an adult re-starter, so I think it's time I expand my repertoire. Thanks everyone for the suggestions so far. 
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#1518115 - 09/18/10 09:33 PM
Re: "Easier" Chopin piece - need recommendation
[Re: CebuKid]
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Opus 28, no. 7. "The Polish Dancer". Short, very very beautiful and around grade 4 level. You'll find a discussion about the "big" chord going on right now: Help with Chopin!
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#1518137 - 09/18/10 10:15 PM
Re: "Easier" Chopin piece - need recommendation
[Re: Andy Platt]
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Opus 28, no. 7. "The Polish Dancer". Short, very very beautiful and around grade 4 level. You'll find a discussion about the "big" chord going on right now: Help with Chopin! Yes, I saw that thread! I love this piece. I just printed it out. It's the winner! Short and sweet.  I honestly don't think I'm ready for Op. 9 No. 2...yet. (but I have dabbled with it...finished about 8 measures).
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#1518198 - 09/19/10 12:27 AM
Re: "Easier" Chopin piece - need recommendation
[Re: CebuKid]
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Registered: 11/19/09
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I would recommend Chopin Waltz No.19 in A minor, Op.posth.P2 No.11 (BI 150). Opus 27 no. 2 is incredibly difficult, wouldn't recommend dabbling with that one. I recommend Waltz because its of moderate length, not too short or too long, and has some characteristic Chopin flourishes that is found in his other works. As sweet and short as the Op. 28 No. 7, there's not as much to be learned from it in my opinion.
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#1518206 - 09/19/10 12:36 AM
Re: "Easier" Chopin piece - need recommendation
[Re: Rui725]
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... As sweet and short as the Op. 28 No. 7, there's not as much to be learned from it in my opinion. I would like to respectfully disagree.  There is much to be learned from it. Namely: voicing, phrasing, dynamics, pedaling, a pp touch, rubato, theory... (All of which Cebukid would benefit from learning before tackling harder stuff) Good choice, CebuKid! 
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#1518216 - 09/19/10 12:48 AM
Re: "Easier" Chopin piece - need recommendation
[Re: Frozenicicles]
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... As sweet and short as the Op. 28 No. 7, there's not as much to be learned from it in my opinion. I would like to respectfully disagree.  There is much to be learned from it. Namely: voicing, phrasing, dynamics, pedaling, a pp touch, rubato, theory... (All of which Cebukid would benefit from learning before tackling harder stuff) Good choice, CebuKid! Ok I agree! How about this, just try both!
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#1518220 - 09/19/10 12:54 AM
Re: "Easier" Chopin piece - need recommendation
[Re: Frozenicicles]
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... As sweet and short as the Op. 28 No. 7, there's not as much to be learned from it in my opinion. I would like to respectfully disagree.  There is much to be learned from it. Namely: voicing, phrasing, dynamics, pedaling, a pp touch, rubato, theory... (All of which Cebukid would benefit from learning before tackling harder stuff) Good choice, CebuKid! You know, you 2 are both awesome at Romantic/Classical stuff, and I respect both of your opinions. The notes are extremely easy in this piece...hell, even I can sight-read this piece..lol. But, I'd have to go with Icicles on this one. If you listen to professional interpretations (like Valentina Igoshina's), there's a lot of dynamics and tone control needed to play this nicely. These are, by my own admission, skills that I severely lack. This is a very good primer. @Rui, I'll have to check Chopin Waltz No.19 in A minor..in fact, I'll print the sheet the right now. 
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#1518222 - 09/19/10 12:58 AM
Re: "Easier" Chopin piece - need recommendation
[Re: Rui725]
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By the way, earlier today, my daughter's teacher played the 1st few measures of Fantasie Impromptu today after the lesson. She is working on this piece next... OMG..it sounded SO awesome. She really made that cheap Chinese piano of mine sing. I told her when she's done that I'd like to record her and publish her video on my YouTube channel. Nothing beats a live performance from a good player. Perhaps that's why I'm suddenly on this Chopin kick again. 
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#1518351 - 09/19/10 09:37 AM
Re: "Easier" Chopin piece - need recommendation
[Re: Strings & Wood]
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Hi CebuKid
I picked OP, 28 No. 4 for my first Chopin piece. The notes came relatively easy but I am still working on the dynamics. The left hand is just maddening to me. Occasionally, it will come together and moves me like no other music that I play. Chopin is like that for me. There is no other composer that resonates with me the Chopin does.
Most of Chopin's music is beyond my skills so I intend to work my way through the preludes and then maybe I will be able ready for some of the nocturnes that I so love. Chopin's Preludes vary a lot in difficulty. Working your way through" all of them may not the best idea.
Edited by Rui725 (09/19/10 10:37 AM)
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