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Hi all, I sincerely hope I'm not breaking any serious rules by crossposting in different forums... Promise to keep it at 2 forums... heh... If there is any issue, the mods feel free to delete any of the two threads. I would be greatful if you could take a few minutes (5-7 approximately) to fill in a survey about music, music scores, buying habits, the Internet, etc. Although I've posted this survey in other places as well, I think that the input given here in PW, will be most important. https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dHJEbHNvMmQzYUhHVWRKMHBncmR6Q3c6MQThis survey (evident from the title) will be helping me conduct a small market research on certain things/issues I have in mind. Thank you for your time filling in the survey and if you have any comments please feel free to post here, PM me, or fill the text in the questionaire (second to last question). Regards, Nikolas
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Thank you for taking part in this survey. It's very useful.
(And incidently, only the PW forum members have provided very important comments on the survey. The rest took the 'easy' route).
On the issue about online vs physical store let me say a few things (cause I know the person who gave the comment came from PW teachers forum).
I'm very much in favor of music shops any/everywhere! I support them and I've done so many things through stores, in Greece and elsewhere. I also support the creative teams though (in samples, for example and music technology).
I am hoping to manage and get the scores in the selves, which is a huge plus for me. In the meantime, I'm working with all the composers to get preview pages of the score (not all the score, obviously...) and excerpts of recordings. You won't be able to grab a score, and head at the piano to try it on, but you will be able to get a very decent idea of what it's about, I hope.
Again thank you for filling in the survey.
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I started taking the survey and bristled when asked to list all the online shopping sites I use. Went ahead and wrote a few in anyway, but then, just afterwards I abandoned the whole thing when asked to list all the online forums I visit. I can't imagine why anyone would want to give away all of this information about themselves, for who knows what purpose.
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hmmm... since any personal information is not mandatory, and this is made with google docs (and I'm not a hacker) I can't imagine a way I could use this information, except for 'marketing purposes' (for example to see which forums are visited mostly and target my ads there...). not to mention that there is a question prior to that asking "Do you visit online forums?" in which if you answer "No" you don't even get asked which forums you visit, etc... Same goes for social websites (there is the option of "none") and pretty much any question. I took a lot of effort and trial and error to create a survey which would be non intrusive and still asking the questions I'd like to research on, without feeing pushy. Based on the responses so far (from forums and facebook alone) I can tell you that you're the only one who's worried about this. Which is more than fair, of course and you're perfectly entitled to worry! So thanks for trying the survey, even if you didn't complete it and thank you for taking the time to post your worries here. I hope I've put your mind to rest a little bit.
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It was the open-ended nature of the question that struck me as intrusive (list all forums I visit, really?). If you had instead made a list of the most widely-used sites that were related to whatever it is you're researching, and then asked me to select all from the list that I frequent, it would have been much more palatable. To me anyway, of course.
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I can't even begin to think that an open-ended question can be instrusive, especially if it can be evaded totally (just reply "no" to the previous one).
Further to that, I work in computer games so a list for me would include probably gamasutra, unity, garagegames and whatever else I frequently use (along with PW and a few other music related ones). So instead of trying to find out the most frequent and well known clasical music forums in another way, I asked (kindly, although I do see your point about the "all" part... and it's fair enough) you to give them. Pretty much what anyone would do in a survey.
As I said, the survey is anonymous unless you choose it not to be so. You don't have to leave contact information, nor to reply to any questions you don't want to (since most are avoidable by choosing "no" in a previous question. Even if you are not a musician, you can avoid the middle chunk all together and just be asked about your browsing habits and buying habits over the internet... in a non personal way).
Anyway, I'm sorry you feel this way and I do hope I haven't insulted anyone, or pushed anyone...
Thanks for your comments.
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I filled out the survey but was very confused on if the survey was only about music or internet use in general. What does the fact that I visit xyz site to buy computer parts have anything to do with the more detailed questions of if talking to a composer would help my decision making process when buying sheet music? Not complaining as I filled out as detailed as I could for the most part, just confused what the purpose is.
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The main focus is music scores. The fact that you visit (for example) the xyz website to rent a DVD will not say much on it's own, but will provide a tiny bit of info on what are your preferences on a web-shop (for example). Furthermore such replies can be ignored, since they are text based. But if, for example again, the website amazon comes up very much, I will have to find a way to use this website specifically for my purposes (as an online retailer, similarly to sheetmusicplus or other). They are not to be confused. Different types of questions, for different purpose. I do want to know if you place your trust in buying through the Internet, if you visit various forums (which will lend a hand for marketing purposes), and if you are interested in contemporary music in generla... It is a bit confusing, I will admit that, especially since I don't give a very exact description on the 'why' and 'who', but I'm locked into silence right now for the most part. The only way I could avoid that would be to take the e-mails of those taking part (should they wish to give them) so I could contact them when the time comes. It's the least I can do for your time filling this survey. Thank you.
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The problem for me with surveys of this type (and I did do it, BTW) is that it asks for information I'm not comfortable sharing. Which on-line stores do you shop at? I listed a few generic shops, but omitted many specialized shops which I don't wish to become part of a database. Period.
Never-the-less, perhaps the generalized answers will be of some help for your purposes.
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hi John, First of all thank you for taking the time filling in the survey. I'm sure that your answers will be helpful to me! You are right, some questions, depending on the person replying, might seem intrusive. I will agree on that. Fortunately, these, as I said earlier, can be taken out of the survey alltogether, or be filled in partially (like you did). It was also my fault that I didn't mention that the survey is anonymous. so I added a small sentence in the welcoming page: Please note that the survey is anonymous unless you choose to fill in the optional texts on personal details. It's impossible of me to know how gave what answers, unless they leave behind their name, their e-mail or some other way to trace it back. And of course I'm not in the business of chassing back who said what, but to simply gather general information, before I do invest a large sum of money in a business that might not go as assumed/planned. Again thank you for commenting and for your time filling in the survey. It's fully appreciated!
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I also balked at the survey after the personal questions. Though I'm sure you're not intending to use the data for any nefarious purposes, I think you have to respect other people's right to privacy, and right to comment on what they believe is a relatively invasive survey.
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quickster:
First of all thank you for attempting to fill in the survey and for commenting here.
Still I have to admit that I cannot begin to imagine how I'm not respecting peoples right to privacy when the personal details questions are optional, and those about the shops and the forums are semi-optional (just say "no" to the previous question and you do not have to answer to these in order to carry on the survey) and open ended (text based, so "I don't want to tell you this" works as well as "amazon", or "I do no wish to disclose this information".
I also think that I have not denied any right to anyone to comment on anything, but rather far from it: I'm here replying to every comment that's been made to explain things, and attempt to understand.
I understand perfectly well that some people may not want to reply to those questions: Don't fill in the survey then. Some people may feel that some questions are too invasive: Don't reply to those questions then. Some people feel they need to discuss this with me: Post here (or wherever you can find me anyways). It's simple as that I think.
This survey may be invasive for some. I can't help it, I'm afraid. In the end it's all a matter of personal preference and references. I've tried my best to explain the open nature of those few questions.
Thank you for your comment.
Nikolas Sideris
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