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#1522292 09/25/10 09:03 AM
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Hi all
My name is Stuart and im going to be a real pain in the behind with all the questions im going to ask. Im learning music theory on my own to help me understand piano (which i have only just started learning). Im going to say thank you now to everyone who will start to pull their own hair out with frustration to my constant "but why" questions.

Cheers Guys and Gals.
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Welcome! I'm about a week old in this forum. Good luck and hope you'll find this forum helpful and friendly.


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Hi Stuart and Tubbie!

Ask away - especially theory questions. A little bit of theory goes a long way, in helping you to learn piano.

Good luck and enjoy your music! smile

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I'm new here also & will soon become a PITA with my questions about digital pianos too. I have already ordered the Alfred's All In One Adult Beginners Course Volumes 1,2 & 3. Will start my studies soon. Haven't purchased a piano yet I'm looking now. There is such a bewildering amount of digital pianos out there it makes my head spin. What I do know is that when I buy one I want one with enough features to keep me satisfied so I don't have to update every couple of years. Hate doing that! Anyway I'm very happy to be here & hope to learn a bunch.


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Piano is not as bad as you may think. You may want to go in head first and that's o.k, but remember you are going to half to spend some long boring hours playing what you don't like. I'm about 8 months in and it is just starting to become fun. Trust me, it will be worth it in the end.

Piano to me, is just one of those instruments, where people who can't play are jealous of those who can. I am.
If someone is better than me, it makes me just want to play harder. Keep at it. Hour, 45 minutes a day and in just a year(which is a very small fraction of your life) you will being to entertain yourself and the many people around you. And it's free!!!

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I tend to do at least 3 hours a day, some reading, some scales at the moment. I do tend to concentrate quite alot on theory.

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Piano is not as bad as you may think. You may want to go in head first and that's o.k, but remember you are going to half to spend some long boring hours playing what you don't like. I'm about 8 months in and it is just starting to become fun. Trust me, it will be worth it in the end.

Piano to me, is just one of those instruments, where people who can't play are jealous of those who can. I am.
If someone is better than me, it makes me just want to play harder. Keep at it. Hour, 45 minutes a day and in just a year(which is a very small fraction of your life) you will being to entertain yourself and the many people around you. And it's free!!!

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Welcome to the forum, Stuart, Tubbie, and Greg! smile


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Welcome Stuart, Tubbie, and Greg.....

....enjoy the forum an enjoy to play your piano....music.....so nice....

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Welcome Stuart, Tubbie, and Greg!!!!
This is the best forum in the world. Enjoy!


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Originally Posted by stuart54
I tend to do at least 3 hours a day, some reading, some scales at the moment. I do tend to concentrate quite alot on theory.

Originally Posted by basskid
Piano is not as bad as you may think. You may want to go in head first and that's o.k, but remember you are going to half to spend some long boring hours playing what you don't like. I'm about 8 months in and it is just starting to become fun. Trust me, it will be worth it in the end.

Piano to me, is just one of those instruments, where people who can't play are jealous of those who can. I am.
If someone is better than me, it makes me just want to play harder. Keep at it. Hour, 45 minutes a day and in just a year(which is a very small fraction of your life) you will being to entertain yourself and the many people around you. And it's free!!!

Douglas


Three hours is a lot of time for a beginner to spend at the keyboard. While that is certainly an appropriate amount for an advanced student, as a newcomer you may be risking a repetitive strain injury. Please read this thread about Teodor's experience: Teodor's injury


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Think ive already done something. Problem is. i recently had a metal plate put in my wrist because of an accident, now its starting to hurt a bit.
Not all of the 3 hours is at the piano, most is throry from web and books.
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Originally Posted by stuart54
I tend to do at least 3 hours a day, some reading, some scales at the moment. I do tend to concentrate quite alot on theory.

Originally Posted by basskid
Piano is not as bad as you may think. You may want to go in head first and that's o.k, but remember you are going to half to spend some long boring hours playing what you don't like. I'm about 8 months in and it is just starting to become fun. Trust me, it will be worth it in the end.

Piano to me, is just one of those instruments, where people who can't play are jealous of those who can. I am.
If someone is better than me, it makes me just want to play harder. Keep at it. Hour, 45 minutes a day and in just a year(which is a very small fraction of your life) you will being to entertain yourself and the many people around you. And it's free!!!

Douglas


Three hours is a lot of time for a beginner to spend at the keyboard. While that is certainly an appropriate amount for an advanced student, as a newcomer you may be risking a repetitive strain injury. Please read this thread about Teodor's experience: Teodor's injury

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I've been playing, teaching and studying classical and popular now for over 63 years. I've had over 100 students, many of whom have gone on to be professional pianists for film and other venues.

If you're mainly interested in classical, you are making a big mistake in using any of the "Alfred's" methods. Those are mainly for "casual" and/or pop music pianists. If you want to play and eventually perform classical, the best method, old as it may be, are the John Thompson method books. There is also a John Thompson "Adult Beginner's Book" - - - you can order any or all of them from Amazon. I use them for all of my students, beginners or advanced.

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I've been playing, teaching and studying classical and popular now for over 63 years. I've had over 100 students, many of whom have gone on to be professional pianists for film and other venues.

If you're mainly interested in classical, you are making a big mistake in using any of the "Alfred's" methods. Those are mainly for "casual" and/or pop music pianists. If you want to play and eventually perform classical, the best method, old as it may be, are the John Thompson method books. There is also a John Thompson "Adult Beginner's Book" - - - you can order any or all of them from Amazon. I use them for all of my students, beginners or advanced.

Free advice from an expert who has "been there and done that".
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Originally Posted by basskid
You may want to go in head first and that's o.k, but remember you are going to half to spend some long boring hours playing what you don't like.


Why should this be the case? I am a little over 3 weeks in, and I am not taking lessons or any learning program. I just downloaded a few sheets online and dove right in, so I'm spending hours and hours playing only what I like. Progress is slow but steady.

True, I will not know much of the theory apart from what I figure out myself and my technique will probably be horrible, but my goal is not to be able to play EVERY song in the history of civilisation impeccably, only to play the songs I choose well enough to sound good.

Bad idea?

edit: I should add that I am not too interested in playing classical pieces, if that makes a difference...

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Welcome stuart54. I'm also a total newby, both in this forum and in piano playing.


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My aim is to learn enough music theory to be able to play more instruments and compose modern music using studio software at first. So although i like classical music, im not that interested in playing it or composing symphonies. Having said that, book recommendations are always helpful to learn different styles and way of doing things, so that will go on my amazon wish list. Thanks
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If that's what you want, then i totally agree with you. I also think that once you know enough theory, you can simply learn the songs you like anyway....I cant see why you need to only play a certain type of music. If that type of music is helpful for learning, then fair enough, but why is it the ONLY type of music you should play. As long as the stuff you want to play doesn't result in errors or bad habits, then go for it !!
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Originally Posted by basskid
You may want to go in head first and that's o.k, but remember you are going to half to spend some long boring hours playing what you don't like.


Why should this be the case? I am a little over 3 weeks in, and I am not taking lessons or any learning program. I just downloaded a few sheets online and dove right in, so I'm spending hours and hours playing only what I like. Progress is slow but steady.

True, I will not know much of the theory apart from what I figure out myself and my technique will probably be horrible, but my goal is not to be able to play EVERY song in the history of civilisation impeccably, only to play the songs I choose well enough to sound good.

Bad idea?

edit: I should add that I am not too interested in playing classical pieces, if that makes a difference...


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