Welcome to the Piano World Piano Forums
Over 2 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments
Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers (it's free)
It's Fun to Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!

Gifts and supplies for the musician

SEARCH
the Forums & Piano World

Trying Something New with Search
(ad)
Pearl River
Pearl River Pianos
(ad) Pianoteq
(ad) Lindeblad Piano
Lindeblad Piano Restoration
(ad) P B Guide
Acoustic & Digital Piano Guide
Who's Online
129 registered (255, ajames, accordeur, Adelheid, Ahmedn1, agraffe, 38 invisible), 1557 Guests and 3 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
(ad) Estonia Piano
Estonia Pianos
Quick Links to Useful Piano & Music Resources
Our Classified Ads
Find Piano Professionals-

*Piano Dealers - Piano Stores
*Piano Tuners
*Piano Teachers
*Piano Movers
*Piano Restorations
*Piano Manufacturers
*Organs

Quick Links:
*Advertise On Piano World
*Free Piano Newsletter
*Online Piano Recitals
*Piano Recitals Index
*Piano & Music Accessories
*Live Piano Venues
*Music School Listings
* Buying a Piano
*Buying A Acoustic Piano
*Buying a Digital Piano
*Pianos for Sale
*Sell Your Piano
*How Old is My Piano?
*Piano Books
*Piano Art, Pictures, & Posters
*Directory/Site Map
*Contest
*Links
*Virtual Piano
*Music Word Search
*Piano Screen Saver
*Piano Videos
*Virtual Piano Chords
Topic Options
#1360314 - 01/28/10 04:05 PM Requiem
ChopinAddict Offline
6000 Post Club Member

Registered: 08/29/09
Posts: 6432
Loc: Land of the never-ending music
I was just wondering if there are any conventions/rules for the composition of a Requiem? Does anybody know?

Thanks,
CA
_________________________



Music is my best friend.


Top
(ad)
Piano & Music Accessories
piano accessories music gifts tuning and moving equipment
#1360854 - 01/29/10 11:49 AM Re: Requiem [Re: ChopinAddict]
8ude Offline
2000 Post Club Member

Registered: 01/21/04
Posts: 2052
These days, I'd say no. I've heard them as "standard" mass settings (a la Mozart), more symphonic in nature (Brahms German Requiem, Britten's War Requiem), song settings (Ricky Ian Gordon's Water Music - a Requiem), even rock albums (Pink Floyd's Final Cut subtitled a Requiem for the Postwar Dream).

I'd say the only "convention" is to keep it in line with a more somber tone/setting - I wouldn't classify requiems as "heppy" music...

Top
#1360985 - 01/29/10 02:49 PM Re: Requiem [Re: 8ude]
ChopinAddict Offline
6000 Post Club Member

Registered: 08/29/09
Posts: 6432
Loc: Land of the never-ending music
Thanks, 8ude. I have indeed called one of my compositions Requiem. It is somber, but I didn't follow any specific rules.
Sure enough, the Requiems of the great composers are absolutely fantastic, they really knock you down....
_________________________



Music is my best friend.


Top
#1361251 - 01/29/10 09:10 PM Re: Requiem [Re: ChopinAddict]
Kreisler Offline


Registered: 11/27/02
Posts: 13827
Loc: Iowa City, IA
Technically, a Requiem is the Catholic service for the deceased and is based on the Mass.

Musical requiems started out as such and were composed for liturgical purposes, but through the 18th and 19th centuries, the requiem evolved into a concert work, similar to an oratorio.

As has been said, most requiems align themselves to the traditional litrugical service in Latin, the two notable exceptions being Brahms's and Britten's, which uses the traditional structure interspersed with settings of Wilfred Owen's poetry.
_________________________
"If we continually try to force a child to do what he is afraid to do, he will become more timid, and will use his brains and energy, not to explore the unknown, but to find ways to avoid the pressures we put on him." (John Holt)

www.pianoped.com
www.youtube.com/user/UIPianoPed

Top
#1361724 - 01/30/10 04:24 PM Re: Requiem [Re: Kreisler]
ChopinAddict Offline
6000 Post Club Member

Registered: 08/29/09
Posts: 6432
Loc: Land of the never-ending music
Thanks for the info, Kreisler. smile
_________________________



Music is my best friend.


Top
#1524599 - 09/28/10 07:06 PM Re: Requiem [Re: 8ude]
ChopinAddict Offline
6000 Post Club Member

Registered: 08/29/09
Posts: 6432
Loc: Land of the never-ending music
I know it is a vague question blush , but which instruments do you think are the most apt to convey this sense of sombreness and death in a Requiem?
_________________________



Music is my best friend.


Top
#1524611 - 09/28/10 07:40 PM Re: Requiem [Re: ChopinAddict]
jazzyprof Offline
2000 Post Club Member

Registered: 11/30/04
Posts: 2735
Loc: Ann Arbor, MI
The cello and French horn.
_________________________
"Playing the piano is my greatest joy...period."......JP

Top
#1524615 - 09/28/10 07:47 PM Re: Requiem [Re: jazzyprof]
ChopinAddict Offline
6000 Post Club Member

Registered: 08/29/09
Posts: 6432
Loc: Land of the never-ending music
Originally Posted By: jazzyprof
The cello and French horn.


Thanks. smile
_________________________



Music is my best friend.


Top
#1524925 - 09/29/10 10:58 AM Re: Requiem [Re: ChopinAddict]
gsmonks Offline
500 Post Club Member

Registered: 08/17/10
Posts: 652
Loc: Saskatchewan, Canada
Originally Posted By: ChopinAddict
I know it is a vague question blush , but which instruments do you think are the most apt to convey this sense of sombreness and death in a Requiem?


I was going to suggest bagpipes and kazoos . . .

It depends. Trombones were once seen as the instruments for conveying spiritual awe, might, angst, etc. Prior to that it was the unaccompanied human voice.

Top
#1525403 - 09/30/10 04:19 AM Re: Requiem [Re: gsmonks]
ChopinAddict Offline
6000 Post Club Member

Registered: 08/29/09
Posts: 6432
Loc: Land of the never-ending music
Thanks!
_________________________



Music is my best friend.


Top
#1525686 - 09/30/10 02:46 PM Re: Requiem [Re: ChopinAddict]
Victor25 Offline
1000 Post Club Member

Registered: 05/30/09
Posts: 1676
Loc: The Netherlands
French Horn, Bassoon, Violin etc. Even though a requiem is somber, if you listen to Mozart's confutatis, you can hear it can have powerful parts too!
_________________________
Currently working on: Perfecting the Op 2/1, studying the 27/2 last movement. Chopin Nocturne 32/2 and Posth. C#m, 'Raindrop' prelude and Etude 10/9
Repetoire: Beethoven op 2/1, 10/1(1st, 2nd), 13, 14/1, 27/1(1st, 2nd), 27/2, 28(1st, 2nd), 31/2(1st, 3rd), 49/1, 49/2, 78(1st), 79, 90, 101(1st)

Top
#1525811 - 09/30/10 06:18 PM Re: Requiem [Re: ChopinAddict]
ChopinAddict Offline
6000 Post Club Member

Registered: 08/29/09
Posts: 6432
Loc: Land of the never-ending music
Yes, absolutely. Actually Mozart's Confutatis is so beautifully powerful I cannot get it out of my head!
_________________________



Music is my best friend.


Top
#1528231 - 10/04/10 07:16 PM Re: Requiem [Re: ChopinAddict]
ChopinAddict Offline
6000 Post Club Member

Registered: 08/29/09
Posts: 6432
Loc: Land of the never-ending music
I think timpani are good too for a Requiem.
_________________________



Music is my best friend.


Top
#1529398 - 10/06/10 11:57 AM Re: Requiem [Re: ChopinAddict]
ex_aedibus Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 10/06/10
Posts: 7
Originally Posted By: ChopinAddict
I think timpani are good too for a Requiem.


It didn't stop Verdi, though. I love my recording of Toscanini conducting the Verdi Requiem. I swear that Dies Irae would scare children. In fact, I was at a performance of the Verdi Requiem and a young child seated near me started clutching his mother tightly right as the Dies Irae started.

Top

Moderator:  Piano World 
What's Hot!!
Why It's Impossible to Tune a Piano!
aka, why you should be nice to your tuner.
--------------------
Posting Pictures on the Forums
-------------------
Forums Rules & Help
-------------------
ADVERTISE
on Piano World

-------------------
Piano Classified Ads
Piano Acc. & Gift Items in
Piano World's Online Store
In PianoSupplies.com ,(a division of Piano World) our online store for piano and music gifts and accessories, party goods, tuning equipment, piano moving equipment, benches, lamps Caster Cups and more.


Free Shipping on Jansen Artist Piano Benches
(ad)
Hammond A100 for Sale!
PRICE DROPPED!
(Think B3)
Hammond A100 for sale!
(125ad) Dampp Chaser
Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver
(ad 125)
Sweetwater $55,000 Giveaway
Sweetwater $55,000 Mic Locker Giveaway
(ads)
PD - WNG - MH
Wessell Nickel & Gross
New Topics - Multiple Forums
Kawai CS-X1
by EssBrace
05/25/16 04:37 PM
Cunningham Piano/Dave Frank- Pat Martino master class 5/22
by Dfrankjazz
05/25/16 03:21 PM
Resource on Learning how to play by ear
by sonhnguyen
05/25/16 02:04 PM
Waldorf blofeld
by Edb123
05/25/16 01:48 PM
Using someones Synthogy samples
by rychubil
05/25/16 01:45 PM
Forum Stats
83,748 Registered Members
44 Forums
172,924 Topics
2,527,642 Posts

Most users ever online: 15,252 @ 03/21/10 11:39 PM
Sheet Music Plus (125)
Sheet Music Plus Featured Sale

Visit our online store for gifts for music lovers

 
Help keep the forums up and running with a donation, any amount is appreciated!
Or by becoming a Subscribing member! Thank-you.
Donate   Subscribe
 
Our Piano Related Classified Ads
|
Dealers | Tuners | Lessons | Movers | Restorations | Pianos For Sale | Sell Your Piano |

Advertise on Piano World
| Subscribe | Piano World | PianoSupplies.com | Advertise on Piano World | Donate | Link to Us | Classifieds |
| |Contact | Privacy | Legal | About Us | Site Map | Free Newsletter | Press Room |


copyright 1997 - 2016 Piano World ® all rights reserved
No part of this site may be reproduced without prior written permission