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#1534054 - 10/12/10 05:52 PM
Re: Silent Pianos
[Re: ChopinAddict]
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Registered: 08/25/10
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I just bought a silent YUS5. The only sounds the piano makes outside the headphones is the sound of the hammers moving and striking the silent bar, even at fff. The strings are not struck. It is pretty quiet, but sounds like galloping horses tee hee.
I am very happy with my silent piano. I do find that it is difficult to play ppp acoustically. This might be due to the way the hammers have to be set for the silent function to work or just that my piano needs the action regulated - I've asked a technician to check just in case.
I play 1-2 hrs a day with the headphones on. It is fantastic.
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#1534064 - 10/12/10 06:09 PM
Re: Silent Pianos
[Re: ChopinAddict]
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Registered: 02/22/07
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Wow a YUS5 Silent. Nice piano! Let us know how you get on with your technician. I have also heard that the change in letoff of the Yamaha Upright Silent installation can impact the ability to play ppp.
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#1534065 - 10/12/10 06:11 PM
Re: Silent Pianos
[Re: ChopinAddict]
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Registered: 03/29/10
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Loc: Netherlands
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the term 'silent piano' alone makes me, well, feel uncomfortable...
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#1534072 - 10/12/10 06:20 PM
Re: Silent Pianos
[Re: theJourney]
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Wow a YUS5 Silent. Nice piano! Let us know how you get on with your technician. I have also heard that the change in letoff of the Yamaha Upright Silent installation can impact the ability to play ppp.
Thanks.  I'm over the moon to have the piano. I also have heard ppp can be an issue for silent pianos and I suspect this is the issue with mine. However without the silent function I would be stuck with a digital piano, so it may just be a price I have to pay.
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#1534078 - 10/12/10 06:24 PM
Re: Silent Pianos
[Re: dolce sfogato]
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the term 'silent piano' alone makes me, well, feel uncomfortable... On the other hand, playing at 3 am on a real acoustic keyboard without worrying about housemates, neighbors or the police makes me, well, feel liberated. Call it a hybrid if you please. If you haven't tried one, the experience is highly recommended.
Edited by theJourney (10/12/10 06:24 PM)
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#1534079 - 10/12/10 06:26 PM
Re: Silent Pianos
[Re: ChopinAddict]
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well, luckily I can do all you mentioned anytime, it happens.
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Chopin op.25/35/22, Liszt sonata, Schubert D.960, Kapustin op.40
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#1534086 - 10/12/10 06:32 PM
Re: Silent Pianos
[Re: theJourney]
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I would prefer to have bought a non-silent piano and be able to play it at any volume and at any time; but unfortunately I don't have the luxury of being a purist right now. My piano is in my living room and I can practice while my wife watches TV or is sleeping or at midnight. I can do far more practice than I otherwise could which is liberating and worth any minor negatives.
Bottom line, if playing silently allows you to play more it is well worth it. In any case I find the technology so good that I usually forget I've got the headphones on.
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#1534095 - 10/12/10 06:49 PM
Re: Silent Pianos
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Same as above. I could have to play a presto piece at night, and it says it is not silent in such cases? It will always be silent in silent mode. You are misunderstanding the trouble shooting guide. These comments just refer to the hammer noise.
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#1534129 - 10/12/10 07:48 PM
Re: Silent Pianos
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It's a pretty quiet noise. You really need to try one and see for yourself. When you hear it I'm sure you will say, oh, is that all, no problem. It's not much louder than playing an electric piano with the power off - just some key action noise.
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#1534341 - 10/13/10 01:56 AM
Re: Silent Pianos
[Re: dolce sfogato]
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Registered: 03/01/10
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well, luckily I can do all you mentioned anytime, it happens. You're very fortunate - not all of us are able to do so. I was thrilled to find a piano I liked, in my budget, with this feature. 8 days to go......to delivery day!
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#1534401 - 10/13/10 05:14 AM
Re: Silent Pianos
[Re: casinitaly]
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Just a general note for those who haven't tried a silent piano system like Yamaha's SG (or Kawai's new ATX). It is an extremely impressive experience. It feels and sounds very authentic with excellent dynamic control and responsiveness.
I know when I first heard about the technology I thought it sounded a bit dodgy at best and a terrible mutation of a beautiful acoustic instrument at worst.... but companies like Yamaha have executed it very well.
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#1534408 - 10/13/10 06:00 AM
Re: Silent Pianos
[Re: Rjt]
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Just a general note for those who haven't tried a silent piano system like Yamaha's SG (or Kawai's new ATX). It is an extremely impressive experience. It feels and sounds very authentic with excellent dynamic control and responsiveness.
I know when I first heard about the technology I thought it sounded a bit dodgy at best and a terrible mutation of a beautiful acoustic instrument at worst.... but companies like Yamaha have executed it very well. +1 80% of the Yamaha pianos sold in by the largest Yamaha dealer in Amsterdam all have the factory Silent system installed. In this day and age of low tolerance, high individualism, close neighbors and thin centuries old walls, the surest way for a child's piano lessons to be stopped before they really got started is to have the neighbors demand that they stop. Silent Pianos have been a godsend.
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#1534510 - 10/13/10 10:06 AM
Re: Silent Pianos
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Hee hee. Or wife in my case.
I actually find it very convenient to spend the hours grinding away at new pieces (and scales etc) with the headphones on. Then to only play near performance-ready pieces acoustically. It means my wife only ever hears me play the good stuff and not the tedious practice stuff - she thinks I'm a musical genius!
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#1535229 - 10/14/10 09:29 AM
Re: Silent Pianos
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Registered: 03/01/10
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Loc: Italy
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Should I keep my old digital too next year when I buy a silent piano? Somehow, being my first piano, it has a sentimental value, but I don't have much space... I know what you mean, I am one of the most sentimental creatures on earth.... but I'm not planning on keeping my digital- also my first piano. We don't have much space either (compared to some here, for sure!!)...... space aside though, there really isn't any need for it. With the silent option, you've actually got the digital there. Take a picture, and sell the old one to buy some new sheet music.
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#1535509 - 10/14/10 05:39 PM
Re: Silent Pianos
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Registered: 03/01/10
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Loc: Italy
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I think you are right... They even said they can sell it for me (in the shop), which would make things easier. I will ask them how much I get for it. With that and the usual discount they give me, I should get the U1 for a good price... That's great! I hope they give you a good deal on your "trade in". When will your U1 be delivered?
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#1535709 - 10/15/10 02:07 AM
Re: Silent Pianos
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Registered: 04/03/02
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Loc: Auckland, New Zealand
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I have used a Virgil Practice Clavier for over forty years and it has been a wonderful help. In fact I doubt I would be able to play as I do now without it. But perhaps that isn't the sort of silent piano you mean.
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#1535759 - 10/15/10 05:27 AM
Re: Silent Pianos
[Re: dolce sfogato]
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Registered: 05/30/09
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Loc: The Netherlands
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well, luckily I can do all you mentioned anytime, it happens. I take it you don't live in Amsterdam then 
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