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#1534434 - 10/13/10 07:50 AM Disappointed by cd purchase
Oz Marcus Offline
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Registered: 06/23/09
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Loc: Melbourne, Australia
I recently purchased a cd of music by the likes of Cowell and Ives.... Clearly a very acquired taste. I could not listen to the whole cd. Does that happen to others, or am I being too harsh? The Wildmen of this cd were not the easiest to listen to!
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#1534469 - 10/13/10 08:42 AM Re: Disappointed by cd purchase [Re: Oz Marcus]
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Registered: 01/17/10
Posts: 621
Loc: Bristol, UK
If the CD you bought is of piano music you might find their orchestral music much more approachable.

The only Cowell I've heard is his piano concerto which I enjoyed - though the piano technique it requires isn't exactly orthodox.

Ives is a fascinating and amazingly innovative composer. Many of his works have entered the mainstream orchestral repertoire and are well worth exploring: The Unanswered Question, Central Park in the Dark, Three Places in New England.

There was a very good programme broadcast on BBC Radio 3 last year giving the background and some analysis of those very pieces. If anyone is interested I will try to upload it to box.net.

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#1534595 - 10/13/10 12:12 PM Re: Disappointed by cd purchase [Re: Oz Marcus]
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Registered: 06/12/09
Posts: 3836
Loc: Bay Area, CA
Did you not know what you were getting into? Their stuff if all over youtube! smile

I happen to love this kind of thing. But when you write "I could not listen to the whole cd," it suggests you were listening to all the tracks in a row, one piece after another. I couldn't do that either.

Instead, I would focus on one or two pieces at a time. Listen to them over and over, get used to their sounds, figure out their "internal structure", at the very least when the main themes repeat. After a couple days, if the experiment is successful, you'll find the music has become a part of you. Then try the next couple pieces.

Another thing is to follow along in the score-- we are pianists, after all. For me, that helps immensely with digesting difficult music. Youtube has a video of Ornstein's Wild Men's Dance with the score.

That's my advice, anyway.

-Jason
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Schubert Immersion: Bb Impromptu; C# minor and Ab Moments Musicaux; accompanying four songs (Suleika II, Rastlose Liebe, Du Liebst Mich Nicht, Im Fruhling); listening intensely to Die Schöne Müllerin and Winterreise

Chopin: first Ballade; Mozart: D minor concerto;

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#1534606 - 10/13/10 12:21 PM Re: Disappointed by cd purchase [Re: beet31425]
bellamusica Offline
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Registered: 10/07/10
Posts: 369
Originally Posted By: beet31425
Youtube has a video of Ornstein's Wild Men's Dance with the score.




Slightly OT... I recently found out about Ornstein by chance, while doing an assignment for a music research class. Did you know he lived to be 109 years old! shocked

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#1534640 - 10/13/10 01:03 PM Re: Disappointed by cd purchase [Re: Oz Marcus]
Mark_C Online   content
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Registered: 11/11/09
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Loc: New York
For me.....

-- Such pieces often require repeated hearings before I "get" them.
-- I'm more likely to 'get it' (or get something about it) sooner if it's a live performance.
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#1535127 - 10/14/10 04:29 AM Re: Disappointed by cd purchase [Re: Oz Marcus]
Oz Marcus Offline
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Registered: 06/23/09
Posts: 457
Loc: Melbourne, Australia
Thanks team,

I will listen again, but not in one sitting!
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Currently working on:
Schubert Impromptu in C minor - D899
Chopin Prelude Op28 No 15, nocturne Op48 no 1
Bach Prelude & Fuge WTC II No 12 in F minor
Aspiring to Rautavaara - Piano Sonata 2 - Fire Sermon

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