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#1535642 - 10/14/10 10:03 PM Schimmel K169DE is home!
piano1750 Offline
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I am about to see and listen to a 5 year old Schimmel K169T in mint condition (well kept and almost never played). I had heard Schimmel C182 and liked the sound and tone. I am expecting Koncert to sound even better.
I am wondering what would be a reasonable price for a 5 year old K169T. It is in a fancy wood finish. I had read some posts here that in 2005, a new Koncert was only sold in the 20s or 30s depending on the size. However 2010 models were listed in the 50s and 60s.
The other question is, if the price are similar, would it be better to get a new Classic or used Koncert?
Thanks in advance for any info and advice.


Edited by piano1750 (10/22/10 09:12 PM)

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#1535672 - 10/14/10 11:36 PM Re: Schimmel K169T [Re: piano1750]
PianoWorksATL Online   content
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Both are excellent, but there are noticeable differences side by side. Schimmel doesn't get enough recognition for their phenomenal actions. Between the 2, the Classic tends to be a little lighter touch. I think the action on the Konzert gives you greater dynamic range, but for home use, some of our customers prefer the sweet, balanced Classic. IMO, the C182 is lyrical and effortless, the K169 is precision and potential.

The more technical the player, the more they tend to prefer the Konzert. You can push it really far if you choose. Even though the C182 is longer, the extra width of the K169 makes up for much of that size difference. The difference between the C182 and the K189, however, is huge. The Konzert series used to be a bargain and the Classic is now. I'll look forward reading your impressions of the used Schimmel after you've seen it.
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#1537027 - 10/17/10 01:28 AM Re: Schimmel K169T [Re: piano1750]
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Finally we got to see and listen to the K169T. It looks beautiful and sounds wonderful! It definitely sounds bigger than it looks. Every single note came out with depth and full, and at the same time very clear. We didn't try the C182, as the dealer recommended C208 to us. C208 sounds "bigger", after all it is over a foot longer.
Sam, I think you are absolutely right about the action. I don't play, my kids do. My 11 year old felt it's 'easier' to play on the C208, and the piano sounds louder and fuller when she intended it to.
Both pianos sound very clear, balanced and sweet. 6'10" might be a bit too big for the room it is going to be in. Also I expect my kids to continue study piano and be more technical and demanding, and Koncert might have advantage in the long run.
Haven't made the final decision yet, but I think we are close :-).

We are going to sell our 5 year old Yamaha U1. If anyone is interested, PM me.

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#1537044 - 10/17/10 03:16 AM Re: Schimmel K169T [Re: piano1750]
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Well your kids are very lucky whichever way you go!

My piano teacher has a Koncert Schimmel (he is a concert pianist) and he is very happy with it. I love it too!
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#1538157 - 10/18/10 03:56 PM Re: Schimmel K169T [Re: Daffodil]
piano1750 Offline
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Decision is made!!!!!!
We are getting the Schimmel K169DE in Babinga Satin finish (it's actually a Diamond Edition, not Traditional), and it's newer than we thought, less than 4 years! Every part of the piano says "bring me home and you won't regret".
Anxiously waiting for the piano to arrive.

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#1538158 - 10/18/10 03:57 PM Re: Schimmel K169T [Re: piano1750]
DanLaura Larson Offline
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Can't wait to see the pictures. Congratulations on a very fine piano.

Dan
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#1538202 - 10/18/10 04:39 PM Re: Schimmel K169T [Re: piano1750]
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Registered: 07/09/08
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Well done, and welcome to Schimmel's Diamond Edition Family smile

And in Bubinga satin.... how posh!

Pictures please grin
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#1541326 - 10/22/10 09:12 PM Schimmel Koncert 169 DE is home! [Re: Konzert Patrick]
piano1750 Offline
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This is a very happy day! Our new (well, lightly used) Schimmel K169DE is finally home. Thanks to Mr. Vladimir Zaslavsky from Forte Piano (NJ), we have our dream piano.

Here are our kids playing on the new piano.




[img]http://picasaweb.google.com/yichen1750/Piano?authkey=Gv1sRgCNLc1teW47fnygE#5531050086211479922[/img]
[img]http://picasaweb.google.com/yichen1750/Piano?authkey=Gv1sRgCNLc1teW47fnygE#5531050103419255506[/img]
[img]http://picasaweb.google.com/yichen1750/Piano?authkey=Gv1sRgCNLc1teW47fnygE#5531050116830311298[/img]


Edited by BB Player (10/24/10 09:56 AM)
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#1541357 - 10/22/10 10:37 PM Re: Schimmel Koncert 169 DE is home! [Re: piano1750]
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Congrats! Your kids are doing well, and the Schimmel will help them go as far as they can.
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#1541371 - 10/22/10 11:08 PM Re: Schimmel K169DE is home! [Re: piano1750]
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Your children are doing wonderful wow The Piano is gorgeous! Best of luck and Happy playing for many, many years
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#1541426 - 10/23/10 12:38 AM Re: Schimmel K169DE is home! [Re: piano1750]
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Congratulations,the Schimmel is beautiful!

Your kids are wonderful little piano players - they certainly deserve a great piano, given they can play like they can at such a young age.

Hope you all enjoy the lovely addition to your home. smile
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#1541618 - 10/23/10 09:35 AM Re: Schimmel K169DE is home! [Re: piano1750]
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your Schimmel is gorgeous and your children play SO well. I am very impressed with their skills (maybe you can keep the other piano for 2-piano works).


(i love Schimmels)


Edited by apple* (10/23/10 09:36 AM)
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#1541629 - 10/23/10 09:52 AM Re: Schimmel Koncert 169 DE is home! [Re: piano1750]
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Thanks for the post. Your children are off to a great start. They are lucky to have supportive parents and you have chosen a piano that will accommodate their growth. Congratulations!
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#1541630 - 10/23/10 09:59 AM Re: Schimmel Koncert 169 DE is home! [Re: piano1750]
DanLaura Larson Offline
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Loc: Pocatello, Idaho
What talented kids, and what a gorgeous piano.
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#1541637 - 10/23/10 10:12 AM Re: Schimmel Koncert 169 DE is home! [Re: piano1750]
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Congratulations!

I watched the video of your daughter playing the piano, and she is very good! The piano is beautiful and sounds fantastic!

Thanks for sharing your joy with us!

Rick
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#1541684 - 10/23/10 12:04 PM Re: Schimmel Koncert 169 DE is home! [Re: piano1750]
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Loc: Tennessee
Yes, your kids are very good. They are extremely luck to have parents that provide them with such quality pianos.
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#1541691 - 10/23/10 12:14 PM Re: Schimmel Koncert 169 DE is home! [Re: piano1750]
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Nice!
Just curious, why did you go for the 169 and not the larger ones, there seems plenty space?
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#1541694 - 10/23/10 12:18 PM Re: Schimmel Koncert 169 DE is home! [Re: PianoMan1958]
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Beautiful kids, beautiful playing, and the piano sounds fantastic -- sweet, clear, and singing. Congrats.

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#1541752 - 10/23/10 01:59 PM Re: Schimmel Koncert 169 DE is home! [Re: wouter79]
piano1750 Offline
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Wouter79, You are right, the room can accomodate a larger piano, we actually had a template measuring it out. K189 would have been our best choice. However this particular K169DE is a very lightly used piano in excellent condition, and priced very reasonably. After all, we have a budget to work with. smile

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#1541809 - 10/23/10 03:24 PM Re: Schimmel Koncert 169 DE is home! [Re: piano1750]
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Originally Posted By: piano1750
This is a very happy day! Our new (well, lightly used) Schimmel K169DE is finally home. Thanks to Mr. Vladimir Zaslavsky from Forte Piano (NJ), we have our dream piano.

Here are our kids playing on the new piano.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fh11u8DbCzQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwkDClzsWWs

[img]http://picasaweb.google.com/yichen1750/Piano?authkey=Gv1sRgCNLc1teW47fnygE#5531050086211479922[/img]
[img]http://picasaweb.google.com/yichen1750/Piano?authkey=Gv1sRgCNLc1teW47fnygE#5531050103419255506[/img]
[img]http://picasaweb.google.com/yichen1750/Piano?authkey=Gv1sRgCNLc1teW47fnygE#5531050116830311298[/img]






[img] tags don't work if the URL does not end in an image type (.jpg .png for example). wink Lovely piano too. laugh

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#1541883 - 10/23/10 05:06 PM Re: Schimmel Koncert 169 DE is home! [Re: Horowitzian]
piano1750 Offline
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Registered: 10/14/10
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Thank you so much! Was wondering why my pictures don't show up.

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#1542289 - 10/24/10 08:51 AM Re: Schimmel Koncert 169 DE is home! [Re: piano1750]
piano1750 Offline
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Registered: 10/14/10
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Thank you all very much from your kind and encouraging words!

apple, we are keeping the U1 for now, as their piano teacher also suggested some pieces for 2 pianos. It will be neat to see them play like that. However, right now, I can hardly bear to listen to the U1. We had some friends over yesterday, one girl played a scale on Schimmel then went to U1 and "fell off" the bench before she hit the 3rd note, LOL! I wonder how well they will blend together smile . The funny thing was our U1 was well kept, and sounded fine before the Schimmel arrived.

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#1542298 - 10/24/10 09:17 AM Re: Schimmel Koncert 169 DE is home! [Re: piano1750]
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Beautiful piano! Thanks for sharing the pictures (and to Horowitzian for fixing the links).
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