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#1536947 - 10/16/10 10:29 PM Slap to the face to old Steinway Lovers
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frown

http://miami.craigslist.org/mdc/msg/2009434380.html

Sorry, But that just isn't right I think. Such a beautiful piano, with a gaudy painting on top. Really ruins the image.
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#1536951 - 10/16/10 10:36 PM Re: Slap to the face to old Steinway Lovers [Re: Brandon_W_T]
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football

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that was the last thing i expected to see.
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#1536954 - 10/16/10 10:38 PM Re: Slap to the face to old Steinway Lovers [Re: Brandon_W_T]
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shocked wow. You know, there might be 1 buyer in the whole state of LA, but what chance does this piano have in Miami?
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#1536967 - 10/16/10 11:00 PM Re: Slap to the face to old Steinway Lovers [Re: Brandon_W_T]
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Oh God...
That is certainly a monstrosity...
Especially because it's a vintage Steinway... They've ruined something of which there are only a finite number of.

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#1536970 - 10/16/10 11:05 PM Re: Slap to the face to old Steinway Lovers [Re: Brandon_W_T]
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Signs of the times...
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#1536995 - 10/17/10 12:02 AM Re: Slap to the face to old Steinway Lovers [Re: Brandon_W_T]
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WTF!!!!!!????

Isnt that illegal?????

What is this world coming to?
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#1537009 - 10/17/10 12:32 AM Re: Slap to the face to old Steinway Lovers [Re: Brandon_W_T]
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I tried to not like it, but the gold lettering and gold trim actually bring out the gold of the plate and the gold feature on the music desk in the picture with the lid open.
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#1537055 - 10/17/10 04:14 AM Re: Slap to the face to old Steinway Lovers [Re: Brandon_W_T]
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Wow. That's even more atrocious than the electric green Steinway with orange naturals and yellow sharps! When it's already so difficult to sell pianos, why make it harder for yourself?
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#1537058 - 10/17/10 04:30 AM Re: Slap to the face to old Steinway Lovers [Re: beethoven986]
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Originally Posted By: beethoven986
Wow. That's even more atrocious than the electric green Steinway with orange naturals and yellow sharps! When it's already so difficult to sell pianos, why make it harder for yourself?


hahah... I saw the electric green Steinway when I was at the store the other day. I wanted to play it but it had a big "do not play" sign on it.

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#1537087 - 10/17/10 06:41 AM Re: Slap to the face to old Steinway Lovers [Re: Brandon_W_T]
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#1537097 - 10/17/10 07:28 AM Re: Slap to the face to old Steinway Lovers [Re: Brandon_W_T]
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Looks more like an A1 85 note, not an O

Hard to tell from the pictures, but looks like a transition bridge section in the low tenor.

Philosophical question, who here would buy an 85 note piano?

It would not be my choice, BTW, to alter the piano. But, imagine yourself as a dealer looking for a way to create an interest in that 85 note piano. Art case pianos have been popular for a long time.


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#1537100 - 10/17/10 07:46 AM Re: Slap to the face to old Steinway Lovers [Re: Brandon_W_T]
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Hey this design aesthetic could work really well with the mammoth piano!perhaps the orange and yellow key tops would also be a great addition to that behemoth!
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#1537126 - 10/17/10 09:08 AM Re: Slap to the face to old Steinway Lovers [Re: Brandon_W_T]
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And what was this all about on that Craigslist ad:-

"Piano comes with free bench, free 1st in house tuning (piano must be tuned every 6 months for warranty)"

Surely regular tuning isn't mandatory on S&S pianos in order to ensure continued warranty cover?
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#1537128 - 10/17/10 09:16 AM Re: Slap to the face to old Steinway Lovers [Re: Brandon_W_T]
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Hmmmph...

Nobody interested in a Steinway will want that monstrosity.

No football fan is going to pay Steinway bucks for a gargantuan trophy.

Hope the seller has lots of room in HIS house, cause unless he refinishes it back to what it should be, that's where it will end up!

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#1537147 - 10/17/10 09:58 AM Re: Slap to the face to old Steinway Lovers [Re: Larry Buck]
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Originally Posted By: Larry Buck
Looks more like an A1 85 note, not an O

Hard to tell from the pictures, but looks like a transition bridge section in the low tenor.

Philosophical question, who here would buy an 85 note piano?

It would not be my choice, BTW, to alter the piano. But, imagine yourself as a dealer looking for a way to create an interest in that 85 note piano. Art case pianos have been popular for a long time.




That would depend on the piano, of course. There's plenty of 85 key pianos that I'd love to own.
I love the sound of those old pianos (If they are in good condition, that is.), and I'd gladly trade in 4 keys for one.
It's not like I'd really miss them, the majority of music I'd play on it was composed on 85 key pianos, so it's not a big deal.
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#1537164 - 10/17/10 10:36 AM Re: Slap to the face to old Steinway Lovers [Re: Brandon_W_T]
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FWIW, I happen to like the A1's in either 88 or 85 note.

Absolutely great scale!

Sure, why not have all 88 notes, still, I think the 85 noter's have been unfairly vilified.
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#1537166 - 10/17/10 10:37 AM Re: Slap to the face to old Steinway Lovers [Re: Brandon_W_T]
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What a way to destroy a beautiful piano. As Greg said, a sign of the times. As has been previously noted, I would think the intersection of "rabid Saints fan" and "Steinway lover" and "deep pockets" is precisely zero.

One of the things about doing an off the wall custom anything is you'd better really like it because you're probably going to own it for a while...
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#1537200 - 10/17/10 11:42 AM Re: Slap to the face to old Steinway Lovers [Re: Larry Buck]
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Originally Posted By: Larry Buck
Philosophical question, who here would buy an 85 note piano?
I think unless one has 100K+ to spend, buying a piano usually involves tradeoffs. Last time I looked(5-10 years ago) 85 note rebuilt Steinways were selling at around 10K less than the exact same model/case finish/styling with 88 keys. PW threads have indicated that the number of pieces in the standard classical repertoire than use the top three notes are miniscule, so there is a definite incentive for someone to have three less keys but be able to afford a piano that otherwise would be too expensive.

Would I buy an 85 note piano? I don't know.


Edited by pianoloverus (10/17/10 11:44 AM)

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#1537227 - 10/17/10 12:36 PM Re: Slap to the face to old Steinway Lovers [Re: Brandon_W_T]
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Philosophically then, why wouldn't one buy an 85 note piano?

Especially considering the scale of the A1.
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#1537237 - 10/17/10 12:50 PM Re: Slap to the face to old Steinway Lovers [Re: Brandon_W_T]
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Well, if the intersection of those three sets (Steinway Lover, Saints Fan, and Deep Pocket) is indeed zero, then this piano's asking price will eventually fall, and fall significantly. That leads to another question.

At what price would someone be willing to buy this piano (with its 85 note scale) and then pay to refinish it more tastefully? .... say, back to how a 19th century piano would have been finished.
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#1537239 - 10/17/10 12:55 PM Re: Slap to the face to old Steinway Lovers [Re: Brandon_W_T]
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I tried to look at it, but it was so ugly I had to turn away. wow
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#1537250 - 10/17/10 01:03 PM Re: Slap to the face to old Steinway Lovers [Re: Brandon_W_T]
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Not even proper football either. That American toned-down and padded-up modification of what we call rugby.

This is football!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KN6zTox-hhk

0:30s to 0:40s - WTF!!!

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#1537260 - 10/17/10 01:17 PM Re: Slap to the face to old Steinway Lovers [Re: Brandon_W_T]
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My first question would be "how much?"

The second would be "how much to strip off the crap and refinish the offended parts?"

It might actually be worth doing, especially if the shop is getting tired of looking at it (and who wouldn't be?)
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#1537291 - 10/17/10 01:54 PM Re: Slap to the face to old Steinway Lovers [Re: Brandon_W_T]
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#1537294 - 10/17/10 01:59 PM Re: Slap to the face to old Steinway Lovers [Re: Larry Buck]
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Originally Posted By: Larry Buck
Philosophically then, why wouldn't one buy an 85 note piano?

Especially considering the scale of the A1.
I don't know if it's "philosphically"...I think it's more psychologically many don't want an 85 note piano. Kind of like a grand without a sostenuto pedal. Not as extreme perhaps, but many don't use that pedal much but still might not want to buy a piano with only two pedals.

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#1537326 - 10/17/10 02:56 PM Re: Slap to the face to old Steinway Lovers [Re: Brandon_W_T]
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I never ever thought this Steinway would sell for $500,000 but it did!!!!!!




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#1537330 - 10/17/10 03:01 PM Re: Slap to the face to old Steinway Lovers [Re: pianoloverus]
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Perspective is everything I guess.

Just my opinion, the A1 scale is extraordinary that to ignore the absolute benefits ...

OK, most piano's these days don't have the transition bridge. One could make the same argument, why buy a piano with out it .... same as desiring 3 vs 2 pedals or 88 vs 85 notes ..... only 2 bridges ... not 3??

Many speculate that Steinway did away with the transition bridge to save money, rationalizing that people wouldn't notice the loss musically.
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#1537338 - 10/17/10 03:12 PM Re: Slap to the face to old Steinway Lovers [Re: Brandon_W_T]
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Larry,

Consider me an A1 lover as well. 85 notes do not bother me at all.

That finish however... that bothers me quite a bit.
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#1537343 - 10/17/10 03:21 PM Re: Slap to the face to old Steinway Lovers [Re: pianoloverus]
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Originally Posted By: Larry Buck
Philosophical question, who here would buy an 85 note piano?
I think unless one has 100K+ to spend, buying a piano usually involves tradeoffs. Last time I looked(5-10 years ago) 85 note rebuilt Steinways were selling at around 10K less than the exact same model/case finish/styling with 88 keys. PW threads have indicated that the number of pieces in the standard classical repertoire than use the top three notes are miniscule, so there is a definite incentive for someone to have three less keys but be able to afford a piano that otherwise would be too expensive.

Would I buy an 85 note piano? I don't know.


I'd definitely drop the 3 keys and save 10k.
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#1537422 - 10/17/10 05:20 PM Re: Slap to the face to old Steinway Lovers [Re: Rod Verhnjak]
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Originally Posted By: Rod Verhnjak
I never ever thought this Steinway would sell for $500,000 but it did!!!!!!




But this one looks more like a piece in a museum's primitive collection, not a sports jersey.
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