2022 our 25th year online!

Welcome to the Piano World Piano Forums
Over 3 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments.
Over 100,000 members from around the world.
Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers (it's free)
It's Fun to Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!

SEARCH
Piano Forums & Piano World
(ad)
Who's Online Now
37 members (Erinmarriott, David Boyce, 20/20 Vision, Animisha, beeboss, Cominut, brennbaer, crab89, aphexdisklavier, admodios, 4 invisible), 1,329 guests, and 280 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Page 1 of 2 1 2
#1535642 10/14/10 10:03 PM
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 11
P
Junior Member
OP Offline
Junior Member
P
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 11
I am about to see and listen to a 5 year old Schimmel K169T in mint condition (well kept and almost never played). I had heard Schimmel C182 and liked the sound and tone. I am expecting Koncert to sound even better.
I am wondering what would be a reasonable price for a 5 year old K169T. It is in a fancy wood finish. I had read some posts here that in 2005, a new Koncert was only sold in the 20s or 30s depending on the size. However 2010 models were listed in the 50s and 60s.
The other question is, if the price are similar, would it be better to get a new Classic or used Koncert?
Thanks in advance for any info and advice.

Last edited by piano1750; 10/22/10 09:12 PM.
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 4,564
4000 Post Club Member
Offline
4000 Post Club Member
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 4,564
Both are excellent, but there are noticeable differences side by side. Schimmel doesn't get enough recognition for their phenomenal actions. Between the 2, the Classic tends to be a little lighter touch. I think the action on the Konzert gives you greater dynamic range, but for home use, some of our customers prefer the sweet, balanced Classic. IMO, the C182 is lyrical and effortless, the K169 is precision and potential.

The more technical the player, the more they tend to prefer the Konzert. You can push it really far if you choose. Even though the C182 is longer, the extra width of the K169 makes up for much of that size difference. The difference between the C182 and the K189, however, is huge. The Konzert series used to be a bargain and the Classic is now. I'll look forward reading your impressions of the used Schimmel after you've seen it.


Sam Bennett
PianoWorks - Atlanta Piano Dealer
Bösendorfer, Estonia, Seiler, Grotrian, Hailun
Pre-Owned: Yamaha, Kawai, Steinway & other fine pianos
Full Restoration Shop
www.PianoWorks.com
www.youtube.com/PianoWorksAtlanta
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 11
P
Junior Member
OP Offline
Junior Member
P
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 11
Finally we got to see and listen to the K169T. It looks beautiful and sounds wonderful! It definitely sounds bigger than it looks. Every single note came out with depth and full, and at the same time very clear. We didn't try the C182, as the dealer recommended C208 to us. C208 sounds "bigger", after all it is over a foot longer.
Sam, I think you are absolutely right about the action. I don't play, my kids do. My 11 year old felt it's 'easier' to play on the C208, and the piano sounds louder and fuller when she intended it to.
Both pianos sound very clear, balanced and sweet. 6'10" might be a bit too big for the room it is going to be in. Also I expect my kids to continue study piano and be more technical and demanding, and Koncert might have advantage in the long run.
Haven't made the final decision yet, but I think we are close :-).

We are going to sell our 5 year old Yamaha U1. If anyone is interested, PM me.

Joined: May 2007
Posts: 169
Full Member
Offline
Full Member
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 169
Well your kids are very lucky whichever way you go!

My piano teacher has a Koncert Schimmel (he is a concert pianist) and he is very happy with it. I love it too!


Daffodil - Onslow's twin.
Hailun 178
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 11
P
Junior Member
OP Offline
Junior Member
P
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 11
Decision is made!!!!!!
We are getting the Schimmel K169DE in Babinga Satin finish (it's actually a Diamond Edition, not Traditional), and it's newer than we thought, less than 4 years! Every part of the piano says "bring me home and you won't regret".
Anxiously waiting for the piano to arrive.

Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 695
D
500 Post Club Member
Offline
500 Post Club Member
D
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 695
Can't wait to see the pictures. Congratulations on a very fine piano.

Dan


Dan and Laura Larson
Fazioli and Ibach grands
Larson Piano Studio
http://www.stoneformsart.com/
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 791
500 Post Club Member
Offline
500 Post Club Member
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 791
Well done, and welcome to Schimmel's Diamond Edition Family smile

And in Bubinga satin.... how posh!

Pictures please grin


Schimmel Konzert 189 Tradition
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 11
P
Junior Member
OP Offline
Junior Member
P
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 11
This is a very happy day! Our new (well, lightly used) Schimmel K169DE is finally home. Thanks to Mr. Vladimir Zaslavsky from Forte Piano (NJ), we have our dream piano.

Here are our kids playing on the new piano.




[img]http://picasaweb.google.com/yichen1750/Piano?authkey=Gv1sRgCNLc1teW47fnygE#5531050086211479922[/img]
[img]http://picasaweb.google.com/yichen1750/Piano?authkey=Gv1sRgCNLc1teW47fnygE#5531050103419255506[/img]
[img]http://picasaweb.google.com/yichen1750/Piano?authkey=Gv1sRgCNLc1teW47fnygE#5531050116830311298[/img]

Last edited by BB Player; 10/24/10 09:56 AM. Reason: Embed videos
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 4,564
4000 Post Club Member
Offline
4000 Post Club Member
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 4,564
Congrats! Your kids are doing well, and the Schimmel will help them go as far as they can.


Sam Bennett
PianoWorks - Atlanta Piano Dealer
Bösendorfer, Estonia, Seiler, Grotrian, Hailun
Pre-Owned: Yamaha, Kawai, Steinway & other fine pianos
Full Restoration Shop
www.PianoWorks.com
www.youtube.com/PianoWorksAtlanta
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 187
Full Member
Offline
Full Member
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 187
Your children are doing wonderful wow The Piano is gorgeous! Best of luck and Happy playing for many, many years


Music is my Sanctuary
2010 Mason & Hamlin A Monticello
2001 Baldwin R1
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 169
Full Member
Offline
Full Member
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 169
Congratulations,the Schimmel is beautiful!

Your kids are wonderful little piano players - they certainly deserve a great piano, given they can play like they can at such a young age.

Hope you all enjoy the lovely addition to your home. smile


Daffodil - Onslow's twin.
Hailun 178
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 19,862
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 19,862
your Schimmel is gorgeous and your children play SO well. I am very impressed with their skills (maybe you can keep the other piano for 2-piano works).


(i love Schimmels)

Last edited by apple*; 10/23/10 09:36 AM.

accompanist/organist.. a non-MTNA teacher to a few

love and peace, Õun (apple in Estonian)
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 1,840


Gold member until Dec. 2012
1000 Post Club Member
Offline


Gold member until Dec. 2012
1000 Post Club Member
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 1,840
Thanks for the post. Your children are off to a great start. They are lucky to have supportive parents and you have chosen a piano that will accommodate their growth. Congratulations!








Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 695
D
500 Post Club Member
Offline
500 Post Club Member
D
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 695
What talented kids, and what a gorgeous piano.


Dan and Laura Larson
Fazioli and Ibach grands
Larson Piano Studio
http://www.stoneformsart.com/
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 16,105
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 16,105
Congratulations!

I watched the video of your daughter playing the piano, and she is very good! The piano is beautiful and sounds fantastic!

Thanks for sharing your joy with us!

Rick


Piano enthusiast and amateur musician: "Treat others the way you would like to be treated". Yamaha C7. YouTube Channel
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 504
P
500 Post Club Member
Offline
500 Post Club Member
P
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 504
Yes, your kids are very good. They are extremely luck to have parents that provide them with such quality pianos.


Jack in TN

Plays:
Yamaha C5 grand (home)
Kawai KG5 grand (church)
Roland RD300GX digital (jazz group)
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 5,870
W
5000 Post Club Member
Offline
5000 Post Club Member
W
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 5,870
Nice!
Just curious, why did you go for the 169 and not the larger ones, there seems plenty space?


[Linked Image][Linked Image][Linked Image][Linked Image]
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 184
P
Full Member
Offline
Full Member
P
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 184
Beautiful kids, beautiful playing, and the piano sounds fantastic -- sweet, clear, and singing. Congrats.

Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 11
P
Junior Member
OP Offline
Junior Member
P
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 11
Wouter79, You are right, the room can accomodate a larger piano, we actually had a template measuring it out. K189 would have been our best choice. However this particular K169DE is a very lightly used piano in excellent condition, and priced very reasonably. After all, we have a budget to work with. smile

Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 8,453
8000 Post Club Member
Offline
8000 Post Club Member
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 8,453
Originally Posted by piano1750
This is a very happy day! Our new (well, lightly used) Schimmel K169DE is finally home. Thanks to Mr. Vladimir Zaslavsky from Forte Piano (NJ), we have our dream piano.

Here are our kids playing on the new piano.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fh11u8DbCzQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwkDClzsWWs

[img]http://picasaweb.google.com/yichen1750/Piano?authkey=Gv1sRgCNLc1teW47fnygE#5531050086211479922[/img]
[img]http://picasaweb.google.com/yichen1750/Piano?authkey=Gv1sRgCNLc1teW47fnygE#5531050103419255506[/img]
[img]http://picasaweb.google.com/yichen1750/Piano?authkey=Gv1sRgCNLc1teW47fnygE#5531050116830311298[/img]


[Linked Image]
[Linked Image]
[Linked Image]

[img] tags don't work if the URL does not end in an image type (.jpg .png for example). wink Lovely piano too. laugh



Close only counts in horseshoes, hand grenades, and nuclear weapons.
Page 1 of 2 1 2

Moderated by  Gombessa, Piano World, platuser 

Link Copied to Clipboard
What's Hot!!
Piano World Has Been Sold!
--------------------
Forums RULES, Terms of Service & HELP
(updated 06/06/2022)
---------------------
Posting Pictures on the Forums
(ad)
(ad)
New Topics - Multiple Forums
Country style lessons
by Stephen_James - 04/16/24 06:04 AM
How Much to Sell For?
by TexasMom1 - 04/15/24 10:23 PM
Song lyrics have become simpler and more repetitive
by FrankCox - 04/15/24 07:42 PM
New bass strings sound tubby
by Emery Wang - 04/15/24 06:54 PM
Forum Statistics
Forums43
Topics223,385
Posts3,349,183
Members111,631
Most Online15,252
Mar 21st, 2010

Our Piano Related Classified Ads
| Dealers | Tuners | Lessons | Movers | Restorations |

Advertise on Piano World
| Piano World | PianoSupplies.com | Advertise on Piano World |
| |Contact | Privacy | Legal | About Us | Site Map


Copyright © VerticalScope Inc. All Rights Reserved.
No part of this site may be reproduced without prior written permission
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5
When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community.