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#1542994 - 10/25/10 10:04 AM Best monitors/speakers for V-piano?
Nla91 Offline
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Registered: 10/25/10
Posts: 6
Hi,

I'm about to buy a pair of speakers to a Roland V-piano but the question is what pair of speakers are best for my budget at $1000?
I've tried a Roland V-piano in a shop with Roland DS-8 monitors and thought they sounded good.
I've read about the KRK VXT 6 monitors and they seem to be good monitors for the price. Are they better than the Roland DS-8 speakers or do you recommend another pair of monitors which are better sounding for the V-piano and within my budget?

Hope you can help.

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#1543000 - 10/25/10 10:22 AM Re: Best monitors/speakers for V-piano? [Re: Nla91]
Rimmer Offline
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Registered: 10/15/10
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Krk's are decent for the money. Seriously look at Adam monitors as you'd find them as nearfield's or mains in many studios (they use Ribbons as tweeters so very fast). Event, Dynaudio are both excellent. Roland, not for me if I had a grand to spend. Head for Adam first, then Dynaudio/Event then Krk's. Others to consider but that should keep you going.

Sorry I haven't checked prices but on iPhone in Qatar!!!

Regards. Rimmer


Edited by Rimmer (10/25/10 10:25 AM)

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#1543011 - 10/25/10 10:37 AM Re: Best monitors/speakers for V-piano? [Re: Rimmer]
Nla91 Offline
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I've found the Adam A7. A pair would cost a approx $1000. Are they the way to go..?

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#1543017 - 10/25/10 10:46 AM Re: Best monitors/speakers for V-piano? [Re: Nla91]
Greg Curtis Offline
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I have a pair of Mackie MR5 monitors that sound great with my DP. 30w continuous 55w peak about $300 a pair.
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#1543027 - 10/25/10 10:59 AM Re: Best monitors/speakers for V-piano? [Re: Nla91]
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Have you thought about smaller mains (like the 5 inch Adams), and adding a subwoofer? You'll get more thump.
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#1543137 - 10/25/10 01:35 PM Re: Best monitors/speakers for V-piano? [Re: elecmuse3]
Hideki Matsui Offline
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Registered: 08/19/10
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I used to have Dynaudio BM5As. They are great speakers but for the bass output of piano sounds, you are going to want to add a sub or step up to their bigger models.

I now use the new Mackie HR824MKIIs. I really love them. They measure about as flat as I have seen any speaker measure and have great bass response. I EQ them with a little bump in bass. I picked mine up for $1050 shipped.

FYI. I also use Eggleston speakers which ring in at about $18K a pair and have owned a myriad of high end home audio speakers. Those tweeters made by Dynaudio are awesome and perfect for the high end on pianos.


Edited by Hideki Matsui (10/25/10 01:38 PM)
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#1543572 - 10/25/10 11:33 PM Re: Best monitors/speakers for V-piano? [Re: Nla91]
Rimmer Offline
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Registered: 10/15/10
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Loc: United Kingdom
Originally Posted By: Nla91
I've found the Adam A7. A pair would cost a approx $1000. Are they the way to go..?



The A7's are lovely speakers. One of my personal favourites.

As always you have to listen to this stuff as what people hear is subjective. Do you have a decent stockist of monitors near you? Seriously check all those brands out and put the Rolands aside as they are not in the same league.

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#1543770 - 10/26/10 08:38 AM Re: Best monitors/speakers for V-piano? [Re: Rimmer]
Nla91 Offline
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Registered: 10/25/10
Posts: 6
Thanks for all the replies, they were really helpful!

The A7's seem to be the perfect match for me:-)

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#1543881 - 10/26/10 10:56 AM Re: Best monitors/speakers for V-piano? [Re: Nla91]
Rimmer Offline
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Registered: 10/15/10
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Loc: United Kingdom
Originally Posted By: Nla91
Thanks for all the replies, they were really helpful!

The A7's seem to be the perfect match for me:-)


Again. Do check them out. Adam have been peaking over the last years IMO.. I haven't heard anything they make I don't like, a lot. They are however trying hard to be flat in their performance so honesty is their game.

I just sold my Markbass 121P bass amp. To me, that was honesty in a box. Some people apparently don't like them much for that reason. They want some colour to their sound. If I have a great sounding instrument, then I'm all over honesty myself!!

Best of luck. Rimmer

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#1544017 - 10/26/10 02:06 PM Re: Best monitors/speakers for V-piano? [Re: Nla91]
ChrisA Offline
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Registered: 12/28/08
Posts: 3841
Loc: Redondo Beach, California
Originally Posted By: Nla91
Hi,
I'm about to buy a pair of speakers to a Roland V-piano but the question is what pair of speakers are best for my budget at $1000?


I think the first thing you have to think about is your goal.

Who is listening, where are they relative to the piano and what size is the room? And lastly what kind of "sound" are you going for? You can't buy speakers without knowing all of the above. Without the above information the advice you will get will all be of the form "I have X, they work for me".


If this is the simplest case of you needing to hear what you play in a typical living room. Then you have to decide if you want monitor style near feild speakers or larger ones that "fill the room". Moniors are acturate almost to the point of being harsh and the sound will resemble what you hear in headphones. Physically larger speaers of the type designed for stereo music listening will sound more like a real piano.

It is good to understand how a real acoustic piano sounds in a room. A real acoustic piano sends the sound in all directions 360 degrees. More then 99% of the acoustic piano's sound goes some direction other than to the listener. (yes almost ALL of it) But the sound hits a wall, ceiling or floor and then comes back to you and this is what you and everyone else in the room hears.

Monitor speakers are more directional and you aim them directly at your ears. Bigger stereo speakers are typically set up to fill the room so that most of the sound you hear is reflected from the room. SO you have to choose which you want, a very acuate "digital" sound or a simulation of an acoustic piano that is "colored" by it's acoustic surroundings.

There are many "shades of gray" too. At one extreme are headphones. The sound goes straight to the ears. At the other end of the spectrum is the Yamaha Avent Grand N3. It's speakers are vertically mounted and don't face the listeners at all, the sound first goes into the case and then is re-radiated into the room like it would be in an acoustic instrument. With $1K to spend you can afford any point along this spectrum you like.

I have both kinds of speakers. I use the monitors for "post production" type tasks like editing and the larger 40" tall speakers for live play.

The neat thing is that the cost is about the same

If these are to be used for a public performance then you have many other considerations. Thinks like "will they fit in my car" come into play. But heck if you can fit a v-piano in it's road case you must already own a delivery van.

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#1544071 - 10/26/10 03:40 PM Re: Best monitors/speakers for V-piano? [Re: ChrisA]
Nla91 Offline
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Registered: 10/25/10
Posts: 6
Originally Posted By: ChrisA
Originally Posted By: Nla91
Hi,
I'm about to buy a pair of speakers to a Roland V-piano but the question is what pair of speakers are best for my budget at $1000?


I think the first thing you have to think about is your goal.

Who is listening, where are they relative to the piano and what size is the room? And lastly what kind of "sound" are you going for? You can't buy speakers without knowing all of the above. Without the above information the advice you will get will all be of the form "I have X, they work for me".


If this is the simplest case of you needing to hear what you play in a typical living room. Then you have to decide if you want monitor style near feild speakers or larger ones that "fill the room". Moniors are acturate almost to the point of being harsh and the sound will resemble what you hear in headphones. Physically larger speaers of the type designed for stereo music listening will sound more like a real piano.

It is good to understand how a real acoustic piano sounds in a room. A real acoustic piano sends the sound in all directions 360 degrees. More then 99% of the acoustic piano's sound goes some direction other than to the listener. (yes almost ALL of it) But the sound hits a wall, ceiling or floor and then comes back to you and this is what you and everyone else in the room hears.

Monitor speakers are more directional and you aim them directly at your ears. Bigger stereo speakers are typically set up to fill the room so that most of the sound you hear is reflected from the room. SO you have to choose which you want, a very acuate "digital" sound or a simulation of an acoustic piano that is "colored" by it's acoustic surroundings.

There are many "shades of gray" too. At one extreme are headphones. The sound goes straight to the ears. At the other end of the spectrum is the Yamaha Avent Grand N3. It's speakers are vertically mounted and don't face the listeners at all, the sound first goes into the case and then is re-radiated into the room like it would be in an acoustic instrument. With $1K to spend you can afford any point along this spectrum you like.

I have both kinds of speakers. I use the monitors for "post production" type tasks like editing and the larger 40" tall speakers for live play.

The neat thing is that the cost is about the same

If these are to be used for a public performance then you have many other considerations. Thinks like "will they fit in my car" come into play. But heck if you can fit a v-piano in it's road case you must already own a delivery van.


Well the monitors will be used only at home in a normal sized room. I'm no expert in technology and how things creates the best sound, all I know is that I've fallen in love with the V-piano. A grand was my first choice but the size and handling isn't something I can deal with right now - so V-piano is the perfect match for me. I want the best reproduction of a grand, so what would you suggest? Is the Adam A7 fine for that? (Of course I will check them out before I purchase:-))

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