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#1981552 - 11/01/12 10:13 PM
Re: So, what did you do today?
[Re: Sam Casey]
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Registered: 06/01/01
Posts: 3634
Loc: Orlando FL
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Last year, after hearing their 10 year old play, I told the client to sell the Kranich and Bach ASAP and get the child prodigy a better piano. They listened! I arrived today, expecting the Kranich, and found a Yammi G-1 in it's place. Their son, now 11 is winning competitions against kids 14 years old. Being part of his success makes my day.
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www.APerfectpiano.comPiano Technician serving Orlando and Central Florida 1927 Steinway M, rebuilt/refinished 2005 - Selling 20k
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#1981579 - 11/02/12 01:04 AM
Re: So, what did you do today?
[Re: Sam Casey]
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Registered: 04/13/05
Posts: 3185
Loc: Canton, MI
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Cleaned a Yam G5 full of drywall dust, then tuned. Had to put all the balance rail punchings under the felt punchings... who does that?
Repaired two broke keys on a Wurlitzer consolette.
Repaired a music desk.
Replaced a set of hammer flange cords.
Full day.
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Les Koltvedt LK Piano Servicing the S. Eastern Michigan Area PTG Associate www.KingsKeyboard.com
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#1981589 - 11/02/12 02:03 AM
Re: So, what did you do today?
[Re: Sam Casey]
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Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Registered: 06/07/03
Posts: 18702
Loc: Oakland
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Gave the old upright that I restrung last month its one-month tuning. It really had not dropped that much.
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#1981633 - 11/02/12 07:05 AM
Re: So, what did you do today?
[Re: Sam Casey]
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Registered: 03/14/08
Posts: 4211
Loc: France
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cleaned a very dirty C3, polished the case and plate, cleaned soundboard, rebushed the mortises, sanded and polished the ivorites, mounted new shanks and heads (3 days) WIll change the 2 treble sections plain wire, also..plus tunings, 2 other days... all that on site in a sunny place  nice people (musicians ;)) and childs, and excellent food ...
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#1983583 - 11/06/12 10:23 PM
Re: So, what did you do today?
[Re: Sam Casey]
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2000 Post Club Member
Registered: 04/02/08
Posts: 2023
Loc: Niagara Region, On. Canada
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Seen something new today. One of the worst consoles I ever tuned. All the pins were barely tight enough to hold, rusted strings, over a dozen of them false beating, buzzes in the tenor from loose ribs, 2 broken hammers, broken pedal rod, mangled dampers all out of sync with each other. The unique thing was that a large springy type door stop was screwed into the corner of it to prevent the rooms door from hitting it (not that it would matter if it did). It was hard for me to resist the temptation of asking if the door stop was attached as an accompanying instrument. If any of you can remember back to your early childhood, the springy doorstop was the universal instrument of choice for most of us when nothing else was around.
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#1983585 - 11/06/12 10:28 PM
Re: So, what did you do today?
[Re: Sam Casey]
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Registered: 04/16/07
Posts: 2160
Loc: Olympia, WA
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#1986516 - 11/14/12 07:34 AM
Re: So, what did you do today?
[Re: Sam Casey]
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Registered: 11/13/08
Posts: 4324
Loc: Bradford County, PA
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Never happened to me before, but it was bound to sooner or later. Went to the wrong house and tuned the wrong piano. The person I tuned for had the same first name, a piano I tuned before, but instead I should have gone to the top of the NEXT hill. Third parties were involved with scheduling and directions. And after I called and blurted out an apology, found out I called a brother's house! That family answers their phone by saying their last name... 
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#1986623 - 11/14/12 12:13 PM
Re: So, what did you do today?
[Re: Sam Casey]
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3000 Post Club Member
Registered: 06/01/01
Posts: 3634
Loc: Orlando FL
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I've never tuned a piano at the wrong house, but I've gotten addresses wrong and knocked on the wrong door that way.
I have tuned the wrong piano at a retirement village, but the receptionist pointed me to it........ her bad, not mine!
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www.APerfectpiano.comPiano Technician serving Orlando and Central Florida 1927 Steinway M, rebuilt/refinished 2005 - Selling 20k
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#1986761 - 11/14/12 07:28 PM
Re: So, what did you do today?
[Re: Sam Casey]
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Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Registered: 06/07/03
Posts: 18702
Loc: Oakland
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One of my customers today had retrieved her 1914 Dometsch clavichord, which I had a chance to play today.
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#1986833 - 11/14/12 10:04 PM
Re: So, what did you do today?
[Re: Sam Casey]
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Registered: 05/28/01
Posts: 1006
Loc: Richfield Springs, New York
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It wasn't today, but last week I spent one very long day tuning and repairing in The Church of the Holy False Beat.
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Eric Gloo Piano Technician Certified Dampp-Chaser Installer Richfield Springs, New York
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#1987502 - 11/16/12 02:36 PM
Re: So, what did you do today?
[Re: Sam Casey]
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Registered: 11/07/07
Posts: 6828
Loc: Grand Rapids Michigan
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Well, today was one of those "interesting days." An older customer, in his mid 80's, a doctor, well, used to be anyway. Poor hearing. Wears hearing aides, yes, you know what's coming next don't you?
I sent in a technician that works for me to tune his piano, I'm booked solid through January 23rd. He called back complaining that the piano was out of tune. So, I sent the tech back again. After talking with the tech, I called the gentleman. He was adamant that from C-6-C-7, every single note was ONE FULL TONE SHARP!!!! So, I went over there today.
The piano was perfectly in tune. All octaves matched and nothing was 1 tone sharp. He kept playing Bb 6 and C-5 together saying, there, that's a closer match in tone. My mind went to "tone" instead of tune which is what I suspected all along seeing as how customers never know how to describe anything anyway. I tried to get him to describe it to the best of his ability but, well, he wasn't able to accomplish much other than to continually say that it was one tone sharp. I voiced C-7 a tad softer just to see if it made any difference. Nothing. Still 2 notes sharp. Bb is right, he said.
After spending nearly 30 minutes talking with him, he is rather tart in his statements and just wants to be right no matter what because I continually kept being interrupted even though he was looking right at me while I talked directly to him, I finally said, well John (not his real name), it isn't the piano, it's your hearing. You may not want to hear that, especially being a doctor but, beginning on C-6, is where you lose it first and up from there. You can barely hear me talking to you when I'm looking directly at you let alone facing away from you. All of the C's are on the correct "pitch" and they are "in tune" with one another as are the surrounding notes.
All that to no avail. He kept insisting he was right. "I'm not going to argue with you "BUT", he would say...
He even tried to get his house maid to agree with him by saying "does the TONE of these two notes sound the same?" I said, you're asking the wrong question. "Does the PITCH of these two notes sound the same?" She said yes, they do sound the same. At first, she had said, the tone did not sound the same. Of course not. The piano needs $3,500 worth of work including hammer filing, major regulation, voicing etc.. It's an Emerson grand by the way. After I described it correctly to the maid, she agreed that the pitch was the same. C, was C...
Frustrating! I did find that the soft pedal was not working at all however so, I did fix that, free of charge which did make him happy... He is one of those clients that well, things are right when he says that it is right... Move C-7 down to Bb-6 and it sounds "better." Still not right but, better.... Ya, right....
Edited by Jerry Groot RPT (11/16/12 10:34 PM)
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#1987543 - 11/16/12 04:51 PM
Re: So, what did you do today?
[Re: Sam Casey]
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Registered: 04/02/08
Posts: 2023
Loc: Niagara Region, On. Canada
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Sounds like a fun day Jerry, I've been lucky with most of my customers and haven't had to deal too much with this sort of thing.
I have had some unusual learning experiences dealing with a handicapped customer of mine, he is unfortunately blind but extremely well adapted and plays the piano like an angel. Well earlier on I learned that all removed piano parts need to go under the piano...he took a flip over the fallboard that was set down by the couch. Stupid me. Next there is the difficulty of explaining that his piano was covered in filth and needed a cleaning, think about how much this matters for him along with anything else on the piano that is visually aesthetic. The piano sounds really nice for its almost 100 year age but its ~35 y/o strings are dark colored and slightly rusty. The associated issues with this and the hammers that have already been sanded years ago certainly doesn't allow the piano to live up to its full potential.
Well he has an incredibly sharp ear and pointed out a half dozen notes in the lower tenor that he says has a slight metallic ringy sound on the decay. He's not ready to restring the whole piano yet budget wise, but was wonderring if there was anything I could do with it. Well I checked everything I could in regards to the bridge and its pins and other things and still this metallic sound is kind of there. Not sure where to go with this since I could try and voice this away by close needling either side of the crown, resanding some hammers, fluffing the strike point a bit ect...but there is no guarantee that ring won't go away. After discussing it with a colleague, he simply mentioned that this is detective work, make sure I get paid for it, and make sure the client understands there is no guarantee it will work with a piano this age in this condition. I'm somewhat uncomfortable with this arrangement as I am a results oriented guy, but he had a good point and I followed his advice.
Well, the voicing helped a lot but didn't cure it totally. The customer was satisfied with what I did in about an hour with it. I'm kind of glad I didn't turn the work away for fear of leaving an unsatisfied customer. We are so lucky to have unique experiences almost every day in this work.
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Piano Technician George Brown College /85 Niagara Region
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#1987557 - 11/16/12 05:14 PM
Re: So, what did you do today?
[Re: Emmery]
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Registered: 10/22/06
Posts: 1531
Loc: Maine
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... We are so lucky to have unique experiences almost every day in this work. ' Unique. Yes, some of them are uniquer than others!
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#1987643 - 11/16/12 10:41 PM
Re: So, what did you do today?
[Re: Sam Casey]
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6000 Post Club Member
Registered: 11/07/07
Posts: 6828
Loc: Grand Rapids Michigan
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Ha-Ha Emmery. I flipped over one of those myself one time landing onto the couch. Lucky for me, nobody was around to see it at the time. I learned years ago, that way, not to place things behind me!! It is unique alright... Kind of makes me want to unique away.... It is unfortunate that we are unable to make them all happy but in cases such as this one, we sure can't help it that their hearing is bad and playing tricks with their ears either.. Nothing else can be done. This is where I like to be able to come back in and change things. I wrote it quickly before I had to leave to go elsewhere and came back later to find lots of mistakes! I THINK I fixed um all!
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Jerry Groot RPT Piano Technicians Guild Grand Rapids, Michigan www.grootpiano.comWe love to play BF2.
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#1987673 - 11/17/12 12:47 AM
Re: So, what did you do today?
[Re: Sam Casey]
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2000 Post Club Member
Registered: 04/02/08
Posts: 2023
Loc: Niagara Region, On. Canada
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I often wonder if we are all hearing the same thing in the same way, and I'm not talking about our hearing accuity as this varies with everyone. I mean it in a way much like we all see colors slightly differently, some people being even color blind to some degree. A study done on this years ago indicated that some primitive tribal cultures do not even see some colors simply because they never had a defining term for it. Can a person hear a buzzing or ringing on some frequencies because of how their ears internals work? It would be nice to know this, otherwise we may be chasing ghosts that arn't there.
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Piano Technician George Brown College /85 Niagara Region
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#1987785 - 11/17/12 11:46 AM
Re: So, what did you do today?
[Re: Sam Casey]
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4000 Post Club Member
Registered: 03/14/08
Posts: 4211
Loc: France
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Age can make strange things with the pitch recognition, I have seen an inversion in the scale ex (6th octave) CDEFG sounding CDFEG, not really franckly, but with a really large doubt
And it was a musician.
Indeed not playing a seventeen expecting an octave...
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#1990449 - 11/24/12 07:09 PM
Re: So, what did you do today?
[Re: Sam Casey]
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Registered: 04/02/08
Posts: 2023
Loc: Niagara Region, On. Canada
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Had a customer yesterday who's husband is bedridden with maybe a few more months to live. I popped my head in to just say hello to him and the old timer says "I wish they made pianos I could play in bed, my fingers work fine". Well I came up with this photo of an old solution to that which would have done the trick. I don't think there is anything available now for this problem, which is a shame. (Imagine getting a call to regulate one...lol) http://www.flickr.com/photos/nationaalarchief/4192748677/
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Piano Technician George Brown College /85 Niagara Region
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#1991746 - 11/27/12 10:50 PM
Re: So, what did you do today?
[Re: Sam Casey]
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Registered: 10/07/08
Posts: 134
Loc: Las Vegas, Nevada
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Tuned a S&S "D" in the middle of a Fry's Electronics store. What a racket in there! Two isles away was a Blue Ray and big screen demo going with a Celine Dion concert. I tracked her just before the 6th octave on one of her screeching solos. And at the same time about 5 isles away was the car stereo display with goons trying to find out exactly how much bass is enough. The "D" sits in the computer isle and has a QRS thingee on it. A pianist comes in once or twice a week to play. He also owns a tuning hammer and "fixes" a few notes where he wants them. They pay me pretty good otherwise I would just say no.
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David Chadwick RPT Las Vegas, Nevada 1923 Steinway "M" 1931 Mason Hamlin AA Wing & Sons Upright (undergoing the full treatment)
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#1992151 - 11/28/12 09:10 PM
Re: So, what did you do today?
[Re: Sam Casey]
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Registered: 06/01/01
Posts: 3634
Loc: Orlando FL
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David, that reminds me of the Baldwin set ups in Sears stores. They would have a small area with a dozen pianos or so, usually right by one of the entrances. Noisy, with constant interruptions from curious people, but most annoying were the over the shoulder peepers....... I'd give out a business card or two but had to do it on the sly, because Baldwin frowned on it! The Baldwin service Dept was supposed to get referral tunings, so they could grab some money out of it. ha ha........those were the days......
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www.APerfectpiano.comPiano Technician serving Orlando and Central Florida 1927 Steinway M, rebuilt/refinished 2005 - Selling 20k
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#1992219 - 11/29/12 12:08 AM
Re: So, what did you do today?
[Re: Bob]
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Registered: 10/07/08
Posts: 134
Loc: Las Vegas, Nevada
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Noisy, with constant interruptions from curious people, but most annoying were the over the shoulder peepers....... That's exactly what happens to me! After a while I have to just ignore the "are you the tuner" questions and just try to get through the job without going insane. I didn't know that Baldwins were marketed in Sears stores. Must've been a delight. 
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David Chadwick RPT Las Vegas, Nevada 1923 Steinway "M" 1931 Mason Hamlin AA Wing & Sons Upright (undergoing the full treatment)
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#1992227 - 11/29/12 12:19 AM
Re: So, what did you do today?
[Re: Sam Casey]
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6000 Post Club Member
Registered: 11/07/07
Posts: 6828
Loc: Grand Rapids Michigan
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Funny that people even bother to ask us that isn't it? "Are you the tuner?" No, I'm the plumber....
Had another one today ask if I could make a living at that? Yes. How many pianos do you tune in a day? Then, how much do you charge per tuning? "None of your business how many I tune in a day.... and none of your business how much money I can make in a week either." I think from now on, I'll start answering those questions with this question.. How much money do YOU make a week??? See how they like it...
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Jerry Groot RPT Piano Technicians Guild Grand Rapids, Michigan www.grootpiano.comWe love to play BF2.
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#1992546 - 11/29/12 06:36 PM
Re: So, what did you do today?
[Re: Sam Casey]
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Registered: 05/15/12
Posts: 2354
Loc: Rochester MN
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I PM'd Jerry Groot and asked him if he could fix a leak in my piano.
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It's much easier to bash a Steinway than it is to play one.
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#1992558 - 11/29/12 07:13 PM
Re: So, what did you do today?
[Re: Sam Casey]
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6000 Post Club Member
Registered: 11/07/07
Posts: 6828
Loc: Grand Rapids Michigan
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I can fix anything Marty! I'd recommend, adding so much water to your piano that you need a new piano! hehehe!
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Jerry Groot RPT Piano Technicians Guild Grand Rapids, Michigan www.grootpiano.comWe love to play BF2.
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#1992947 - 11/30/12 06:04 PM
Re: So, what did you do today?
[Re: David Jenson]
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Registered: 04/02/08
Posts: 2023
Loc: Niagara Region, On. Canada
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He might get away with it if Tony Orlando isn't standing nearby.
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Piano Technician George Brown College /85 Niagara Region
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#1992997 - 11/30/12 09:09 PM
Re: So, what did you do today?
[Re: Sam Casey]
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6000 Post Club Member
Registered: 11/07/07
Posts: 6828
Loc: Grand Rapids Michigan
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A couple goes on vacation to a fishing resort in northern Minnesota.The husband likes to fish at the crack of dawn - the wife likes to read.
One morning the husband returns after several hours of fishing and decides to take a nap.
Although not familiar with the lake, the wife decides to take the boat out. She motors out a short distance, anchors, and continues to read her book.
Along comes a game warden in his boat. He pulls up alongside the woman and says, "Good morning Ma'am. What are you doing?"
"Reading a book," she replies, (thinking, "Isn't that obvious?")
"You're in a restricted fishing area," he informs her.
"I'm sorry officer, but I'm not fishing, I'm reading."
"Yes, but you have all the equipment. For all I know you could start at any moment. I'll have to take you in and write you up."
"If you do that, I'll have to charge you with sexual assault," says the woman.
"But I haven't even touched you," says the game warden.
"That's true, but you have all the equipment. For all I know you could start at any moment."
"Have a nice day ma'am", and he left.
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Jerry Groot RPT Piano Technicians Guild Grand Rapids, Michigan www.grootpiano.comWe love to play BF2.
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#1993003 - 11/30/12 09:56 PM
Re: So, what did you do today?
[Re: Emmery]
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Registered: 10/22/06
Posts: 1531
Loc: Maine
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He might get away with it if Tony Orlando isn't standing nearby. I hate it when people out-funny me! 'Good one.
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