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#1559717 - 11/17/10 05:32 PM Can you do this, this fast?
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Here's the--reputedly--fastest version of The Flight Of The Bumblebee.

I've heard that scientists say the Bumblebee should not be able to fly. Due to it's weight and wing size, I suppose.

Is anyone supposed to be this fast on the piano?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKCZZf6ixj4&feature=related

Bech


Edited by Bech (11/17/10 05:33 PM)
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#1559723 - 11/17/10 05:42 PM Re: Can you do this, this fast? [Re: Bech]
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Cziffra played it faster.
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#1559725 - 11/17/10 05:44 PM Re: Can you do this, this fast? [Re: Bech]
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I don't know if it was faster, but Cziffra certainly played it better...
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#1559750 - 11/17/10 06:21 PM Re: Can you do this, this fast? [Re: Bech]
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What an inspiration! Now I am back to playing my piano......with renewed rigor
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#1559759 - 11/17/10 06:30 PM Re: Can you do this, this fast? [Re: terminaldegree]
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Originally Posted By: terminaldegree
I don't know if it was faster, but Cziffra certainly played it better...


Agreed.
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#1559770 - 11/17/10 06:43 PM Re: Can you do this, this fast? [Re: Bech]
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Some things need more time to be properly expressed!

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#1559782 - 11/17/10 06:59 PM Re: Can you do this, this fast? [Re: Bech]
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No, that is not supposed to be physically possible. This is clearly a rip in continuum of reality, resulting in an anomaly of physics.

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#1559784 - 11/17/10 07:01 PM Re: Can you do this, this fast? [Re: Bech]
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Anything you can play, I can play faster.
As a piano teacher once told me in class: I simply don't understand you, the harder it gets, the faster you go.
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#1559787 - 11/17/10 07:07 PM Re: Can you do this, this fast? [Re: Bech]
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Look at the body language of the lady in pink with glasses on the right part of your screen.
She is sitting there asking; what am I doing here?

This kind of acts give me mix-emotions in one hand I admire the ability of the player on the other hand musically leaves me in limbo. I always found useless put that many hours of practice into a circus act.
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#1559857 - 11/17/10 09:48 PM Re: Can you do this, this fast? [Re: Bech]
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Talking about her...



her performance of Etude 10/4 by Chopin is at least... different.


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#1559977 - 11/18/10 04:02 AM Re: Can you do this, this fast? [Re: Mati]
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For me in bumblebee musicality is sacrificed for speed. It turns it into an exercise. I switched off half way through because once I had seen the speed I thought "Impressive. Enough of that. Now, how about some music?".
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#1559991 - 11/18/10 04:45 AM Re: Can you do this, this fast? [Re: Bech]
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it sounds like a very fast nightmare.
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#1560001 - 11/18/10 05:15 AM Re: Can you do this, this fast? [Re: Bech]
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I don't know about her, but I get paid by the hour, not by the note. smile
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#1560039 - 11/18/10 07:40 AM Re: Can you do this, this fast? [Re: Bech]
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i love her shiny black look... and she IS awesome.
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#1560075 - 11/18/10 08:52 AM Re: Can you do this, this fast? [Re: Bech]
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If never ceases to amaze me that pieces written out can be played so fast if worked out and of course a lot of talent to go with it.

But it does not satisfy as much as Bud Powell improvising something twice as fast and more complex chords while doing it.

Art Tatum was another one who could play stuff fast on an upright which would be thought to be impossible back then, gravity issue.

I still think it's harder to play something slower and expressive.
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#1560104 - 11/18/10 10:07 AM Re: Can you do this, this fast? [Re: terminaldegree]
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Originally Posted By: terminaldegree
I don't know if it was faster, but Cziffra certainly played it better...

Cziffra played it both faster and better. It actually sounds like music!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n19dejb5dj0
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#1560111 - 11/18/10 10:28 AM Re: Can you do this, this fast? [Re: jazzyprof]
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Cziffra is definitely one of my favorites. I just listened to his version and it is very fast. His is more musical.

Nothing wrong with a few pieces that challenge the speed of the instrumentalist.

A piece with a beautiful melody played with great expressiveness is what I, and I think most people, enjoy most. Music at it's best.

Bech
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#1560112 - 11/18/10 10:28 AM Re: Can you do this, this fast? [Re: Bech]
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Like3 I said. Cziffra played it faster. It's very easy to get out the metronome and clock both versions.
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