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She was 7 years and 10 months old when this video was recorded. After 1 year piano education.

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Yes, she's really good. smile

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She's very good, but this kid was much better at the same age. He made his recital debut at 5 in a program of all the Bach Inventions plus sonatas by Hadyn and Mozart. Here he is at 11:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2Nr_yuneFQ

It would great to see a video of Kissin made earlier than his famous performance of the Chopin Concerti, but I don't think there is one. Or of Josef Hofmann playing Carnegie Hall at around 10.


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Well, all that was asked is if she's really good.... smile

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Yup.

Is she your daughter?



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I think i entered in a prejudice empire. Well, she is not my daughter. In fact, I never married.I know her family since she was 3 years old.I am a Clinical Psychologist. Just sense of responsibility. I wonder if there is a specialist who can say something about musicianship, pharasing, control or etc?

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I'm wondering what you mean by 'sense of responsibility'?

But in any event, since you asked for more: She is doing very well, and she's definitely "really good" for someone of her age, but I'm not sure how much higher we could put her beyond that. She does some excellent and interesting things with the rhythm, the 'energy' is excellent, and she shows a terrific dynamic range. As for phrasing (and other things like sensitivity), she has learned the basics of how to phrase, but there's some crudeness and a sense of some things being sort of "forced" rather than natural which we usually don't see in the young children whose playing is most extraordinary. As for "control," it seems excellent, as does her technique.

Don't get me wrong -- she definitely gets an "A" smile and it's a lot better than I played at that age! If she continues with her music, she will be a very fine pianist.
And also BTW I'm not a "specialist" but I figured I'd answer anyway. smile

P.S. Not sure what you meant by "prejudice empire" either....

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This kid is much better




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my eyes........................... @%#$



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She plays quite well. It would seem to me that she doesn't yet fully understand rubato and how to use it effectively in playing Chopin, but that is not something one would expect of a child her age. That will undoubtedly come with time as she matures as a musician. This performance sounds a little perfunctory at the moment in certain spots.

On the other hand, she has very good balance between the hands, and the melody is nicely shaped, for the most part.

She has a habit of "sucking in" her lips while playing that I find distracting, but that might be less evident in a live performance where one doesn't have the (dis)advantage of close-ups.

But, yes, overall, she plays very well.

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This kid is much better



Batuhan, this kid is better than yours...!

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I think i entered in a prejudice empire. Well, she is not my daughter. In fact, I never married.I know her family since she was 3 years old.I am a Clinical Psychologist. Just sense of responsibility. I wonder if there is a specialist who can say something about musicianship, pharasing, control or etc?
I left my remarks at PS.

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This kid is much better



Batuhan, this kid is better than yours...!


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yes, simgekivilcim .. she is VERY good. I hope she pursues music.


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It depends what you mean by really good. Is she in the top 1% for her age? Maybe so. Is that really good?

She is poor compared to the best in the world for her age. Chopin Waltz in A flat and Waltz in C sharp minor are particularly easy Chopin as compared to the Chopin Etudes.

Here are a few links to really good children of a similar age playing the Chopin Etudes at full tempo.

Haochen Zhang
(already posted by pianoloverus)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2Nr_yuneFQ

George Li
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHzZDdhQSnk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlUiYUOuwKg

Jordan Adams
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4td_Zn6G3U&playnext=1&list=PLFA89444843987CF3&index=16

Anna Larsen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfUBNCUoakw

Now that is really good.

Do they have Psychologists in Turkey? I don't know about us being called a bunch of racists on someone's 4th post.

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ok..

i definitely feel like an amateur now.


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So many talented young musicians! The future of classical music! thumb

By the way, I was just looking at Anna Larsen's video and it says "second grade" when she was 8, but the Youtube Homepage says:
Anna Larsen was born in March of 2000. She started playing the piano when she was three.
Well, maybe she started formal lessons at 6...?

Question to the teachers (in particular): Do you think the comment they left on the YouTube page is true, that is to say that pieces like Chopin's Etudes can harm very young kids who still haven't developed a full technique?



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It depends what you mean by really good. Is she in the top 1% for her age? Maybe so. Is that really good?

She is poor compared to the best in the world for her age. Chopin Waltz in A flat and Waltz in C sharp minor are particularly easy Chopin as compared to the Chopin Etudes.

Here are a few links to really good children of a similar age playing the Chopin Etudes at full tempo.

Haochen Zhang
(already posted by pianoloverus)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2Nr_yuneFQ

George Li
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHzZDdhQSnk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlUiYUOuwKg

Jordan Adams
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4td_Zn6G3U&playnext=1&list=PLFA89444843987CF3&index=16

Anna Larsen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfUBNCUoakw

Now that is really good.

Do they have Psychologists in Turkey? I don't know about us being called a bunch of racists on someone's 4th post.


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I don't want to hear any comment who plays Chopin Polonaise like this.
Sorry, but you are very poor about understanding world - especially music- even than me. (So I am poor in English too).

In Poland and France, you get at least two years in prison for insulting to Chopin. (This is a joke).

My dear friend who told you to compare a new started musician with the others who started playing the piano at the age of 3.
Does the music mean only contest?
So,what does "similar age" means?
Even a month is very important in the development of such children. I think everyone -except you- in this forum knows this reality.
George Li.. probably your best example. Yes he is very very good. I hope he will be better in the future. But he is exactly 6 years older than this girl and his videos has been recorded 3 years ago.
Even if it is not like that what does it matter?
Give a simple answer to a question or keep silent



And my dear friend who told you that I am the Psychologists of this girl?
Do not hate the people my friend and please don't play Chopin because Chopin will hate you.

P.S.: "Do they have Psychologists in Turkey? I don't know about us being called a bunch of racists on someone's 4th post."

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