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I regret to say that for the longest time, I was very ignorant to Cziffra's recordings/interpretations besides the super-virtuoso stuff, like Chopin etudes or his transcriptions... But I was recently very moved by his take on Ravel's Jeux d'Eau and Chopin's B Flat Minor Scherzo Op. 31.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIZRDOUQrME (Jeux d'Eau)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIZRDOUQrME (Chopin Scherzo 2)

What are some other Cziffra recordings you recommend that display this kind of musicianship?

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The recording quality is pretty crap but i find this interpretation beautiful. I'm a big Cziffra fan!!



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I used to be the opposite. I LOVED Cziffra, and I imported the complete studio recordings and everything. Eventually my tastes changed.

The problem with Cziffra is that for the romantic composers, he basically Cziffrizes everything. It's hard to find a piece by Schumann/Chopin/Liszt that he doesn't play with the exaggerated tempo fluctuations of a Hungarian rhapsody.

I recommend his French Baroque stuff, like Lully and Rameau. Very sensitive, thoughtful interpretations. His Rachmaninov G Minor Prelude is pretty awesome as well.

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Originally Posted by mr_roberts_z

The problem with Cziffra is that for the romantic composers, he basically Cziffrizes everything. It's hard to find a piece by Schumann/Chopin/Liszt that he doesn't play with the exaggerated tempo fluctuations of a Hungarian rhapsody.


And he exaggerates those! I do like his 4:33.

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I do like his 4:33


You don't think he exaggerates that piece? Have you ever "heard" cursing him perform it?


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Originally Posted by mr_roberts_z
I used to be the opposite. I LOVED Cziffra, and I imported the complete studio recordings and everything. Eventually my tastes changed.

The problem with Cziffra is that for the romantic composers, he basically Cziffrizes everything. It's hard to find a piece by Schumann/Chopin/Liszt that he doesn't play with the exaggerated tempo fluctuations of a Hungarian rhapsody.

I recommend his French Baroque stuff, like Lully and Rameau. Very sensitive, thoughtful interpretations. His Rachmaninov G Minor Prelude is pretty awesome as well.


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Originally Posted by mr_roberts_z

The problem with Cziffra is that for the romantic composers, he basically Cziffrizes everything.

One could look at it that way. But like with Virgil Fox on the organ, Cziffra's idiosyncrasies either 'work' for you or they don't.

I've enjoyed most of the Cziffra recordings I've heard (hardly all of them). He is certainly very unique, and always brings something fresh to my listening experience. That said, I wouldn't want to make a steady diet of his recordings!


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Originally Posted by Pogorelich.
Originally Posted by mr_roberts_z
I used to be the opposite. I LOVED Cziffra, and I imported the complete studio recordings and everything. Eventually my tastes changed.

The problem with Cziffra is that for the romantic composers, he basically Cziffrizes everything. It's hard to find a piece by Schumann/Chopin/Liszt that he doesn't play with the exaggerated tempo fluctuations of a Hungarian rhapsody.

I recommend his French Baroque stuff, like Lully and Rameau. Very sensitive, thoughtful interpretations. His Rachmaninov G Minor Prelude is pretty awesome as well.


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Oh, agreed. He's definitely one of the immortals (especially in terms of technique...talk about fingers of steel). There's no lack of personality in his playing, unlike a number of today's top pianists.

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Originally Posted by mr_roberts_z

The problem with Cziffra is that for the romantic composers, he basically Cziffrizes everything.

One could look at it that way. But like with Virgil Fox on the organ, Cziffra's idiosyncrasies either 'work' for you or they don't.

I've enjoyed most of the Cziffra recordings I've heard (hardly all of them). He is certainly very unique, and always brings something fresh to my listening experience. That said, I wouldn't want to make a steady diet of his recordings!


That's a good point. Perhaps I've become disenchanted with Cziffra precisely because I did (at one point). I guess if you listen to him only occasionally (or a small selection of his repertoire) you don't really notice how his Cziffrism kind of seeps through every note (an exception are his Beethoven/Mozart recordings, which are amazingly humble, straightforward, and dare I say, bland).


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