Welcome to the Piano World Piano Forums
Over 2.5 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments
Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers (it's free)
It's Fun to Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!

Gifts and supplies for the musician

SEARCH
the Forums & Piano World

Trying Something New with Search
(125ad)
Piano Life Saver - Dampp Chaser
Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver
(ad) Lindeblad Piano
Lindeblad Piano Restoration
Ad
Let Your Piano Sing
Let Your Piano Sing
(ad)
Piano Buyer Guide
Acoustic & Digital Piano Buyers Guide
Who's Online
112 registered (anamnesis, Albunea, alwatson, accordeur, Adypiano, 30 invisible), 2196 Guests and 6 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
(ad) Estonia Piano
Estonia Pianos
Quick Links to Useful Piano & Music Resources
Our Classified Ads
Find Piano Professionals-

*Piano Dealers - Piano Stores
*Piano Tuners
*Piano Teachers
*Piano Movers
*Piano Restorations
*Piano Manufacturers
*Organs

Quick Links:
*Advertise On Piano World
*Free Piano Newsletter
*Online Piano Recitals
*Piano Recitals Index
*Piano & Music Accessories
*Live Piano Venues
*Music School Listings
* Buying a Piano
*Buying A Acoustic Piano
*Buying a Digital Piano
*Pianos for Sale
*Sell Your Piano
*How Old is My Piano?
*Piano Books
*Piano Art, Pictures, & Posters
*Directory/Site Map
*Contest
*Links
*Virtual Piano
*Music Word Search
*Piano Screen Saver
*Piano Videos
*Virtual Piano Chords
Topic Options
#1573736 - 12/10/10 02:04 AM Playing a chord, confused
Artur Gajewski Offline
Full Member

Registered: 12/07/10
Posts: 336
Loc: Helsinki, Finland
So I wathed a video on youtube about piano improvization and I got confused.

Lets say I want to play a chord of C-major. So there are two ways among others I can play it?

C-E-G and C-G-C

Am I corrent or did I miss something here?

Would E-major then also be E-B-E in addition to E-G-B?

Video link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Q2yQKXRRTs&feature=fvsr


Edited by Artur Gajewski (12/10/10 02:05 AM)
_________________________
- Artur Gajewski

Author of Piano Lessons Package & Child's Piano Play
Facebook page

Top
(ad)
Piano & Music Accessories
piano accessories music gifts tuning and moving equipment
#1573763 - 12/10/10 03:58 AM Re: Playing a chord, confused [Re: Artur Gajewski]
Tobiasm Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 07/17/09
Posts: 12
Loc: Denmark
No you're correct. It's a matter of what is called voicing - how you play a given chord. If you play a chord like c-major in the left hand C-E-G it will often sound "muddled" because the notes are to close, so you omit the 3rd( E in this case) and play C-G-C instead.
The E will then often be played by the right hand. Or you could voice the chord C-G-E.

Top
#1573764 - 12/10/10 03:58 AM Re: Playing a chord, confused [Re: Artur Gajewski]
Dror Perl Offline
Full Member

Registered: 03/20/10
Posts: 272
Loc: NY
Hello Arthur

You are right there are many ways to play a C major chords.

C-E-G is a basic C major chord and C-G-C is indeed another way to accompany yourself when playing C major.

As for the E major, E-B-E would work (the parallel to our C-G-C from earlier)

however, E-G-B is actually an Em chord and if you want to play an E major you need to play E-G#-B
_________________________
Dror Perl. Pianist, Composer, Teacher.

http://www.sheerpiano.com/

Sheer Piano: The First Full Color Piano Music Books





Top
#1573780 - 12/10/10 05:13 AM Re: Playing a chord, confused [Re: Artur Gajewski]
Artur Gajewski Offline
Full Member

Registered: 12/07/10
Posts: 336
Loc: Helsinki, Finland
Thanks for the clarification guys, I have heard of open voicing before but never understood it.
_________________________
- Artur Gajewski

Author of Piano Lessons Package & Child's Piano Play
Facebook page

Top
#1573832 - 12/10/10 08:03 AM Re: Playing a chord, confused [Re: Artur Gajewski]
rocket88 Offline
3000 Post Club Member

Registered: 09/04/06
Posts: 3690
The C major chord has three notes....C - E - G.

When played like that, it is called "root position."

If you take the C from the bottom of the chord, and put it on top, so the chord is E - G - C, that is called "first inversion."

If you take the E from the bottom of the first inversion, and put it on the top, so the chord is G - C - E, that is called "second inversion."

As was mentioned in a post above, that is called the "voices" of a chord.

You can also mix the notes up in other ways, such as playing C - G with your left hand, and the E, and perhaps another C and/or G with your right hand an octave higher...still technically a C chord.

That is because when you play music, you are much of the time playing some combination of the notes of a chord, with some other non-chordal notes mixed in.
_________________________
Piano teacher and Blues and Boogie-Woogie pianist.

A Blues tune with my trio: https://www.box.com/s/43da5e4ca6432d021eb8

Top
#1574004 - 12/10/10 12:56 PM Re: Playing a chord, confused [Re: Artur Gajewski]
EJR Offline
500 Post Club Member

Registered: 10/20/06
Posts: 861
Loc: Bristol, UK
Another reason to be familiar with inversions is that when following a chord progression, you smoothly move the minimum number of notes between chords rather than going clunk - root position chord - clunk - another root position chord - clunk - etc
_________________________


Daily ramblings....

Top
#1574059 - 12/10/10 02:24 PM Re: Playing a chord, confused [Re: Artur Gajewski]
Maharishi Offline
Full Member

Registered: 08/31/10
Posts: 439
Loc: France


Hello Artur,

I don’t know what resources you have available to you but I wrote these chord sequences out for someone on this forum a few weeks ago. They demonstrate a little of what has already been talked about here and might help you.






There are a few more examples here (with higher definition).

Good luck!!
_________________________
Maharishi wink
A mere novice..

And my faithful friend..


Hellas upright, CP5
Some of my practice sessions : Grieg, Schubert, Chopin, Schumann

Top
#1574064 - 12/10/10 02:31 PM Re: Playing a chord, confused [Re: Artur Gajewski]
carpediem Offline
Full Member

Registered: 10/09/07
Posts: 69
Loc: Midwest
Thanks for a good question and an interesting thread. I agree with the comments above, but would clarify one thing. If you choose to play the C-G-C version in the left hand, you have to have an E as one of your right hand notes. The reason is that in any chord triad, the 3rd note (E in the example of C-E-G) gives the character of the chord, namely whether it will be a major or minor chord. A C major is C-E-G (the 1, 3, and 5 notes of that scale), a C minor is C-E flat-G (the 1, flatted third, and 5th), so you need the third note somewhere to know whether you are playing a major or minor key. The C and G are common to both.
When using Arabic numbers like that you are referring to the steps of the scale (a C scale of C-D-E-F-G-A-B means C=1, D=2, etc.) When using Roman numerals in Maharishi's posting you are referring to the comparable chords. So, in key of C the IV chord is a F, the V chord is a G chord, and the I chord is back to C major.

Hope this helps.

Top
#1574105 - 12/10/10 03:24 PM Re: Playing a chord, confused [Re: Maharishi]
EJR Offline
500 Post Club Member

Registered: 10/20/06
Posts: 861
Loc: Bristol, UK
Nice!
_________________________


Daily ramblings....

Top
#1574134 - 12/10/10 04:06 PM Re: Playing a chord, confused [Re: carpediem]
Maharishi Offline
Full Member

Registered: 08/31/10
Posts: 439
Loc: France

Hello again!

Yes, there are some more of these inversions further down the page of my original file – If you click on the link in my post above!

Happy playing!
_________________________
Maharishi wink
A mere novice..

And my faithful friend..


Hellas upright, CP5
Some of my practice sessions : Grieg, Schubert, Chopin, Schumann

Top

Moderator:  BB Player, casinitaly 
What's Hot!!
Some New Piano World STATS

-------------------
Posting Pictures on the Forums
-------------------
Forums RULES & HELP
-------------------
ADVERTISE
on Piano World

-------------------
Piano Classified Ads
(ad)
Defining National Piano Schools - Perceptions
Defining National Piano Schools - Perceptions
(ad)
Piano Lamps - Piano Lights
Piano Lamp by cocoweb - free shipping
New in Piano World's online store PianoSupplies.com , beautiful piano lamps from cocoweb. Free shipping! (continental U.S.).
(ad)
Pianoteq
Grotrian Concert
Royal
for Pianoteq out now
(ad)
Pearl River
Pearl River Pianos
Piano Acc. & Gift Items in
Piano World's Online Store
In PianoSupplies.com ,(a division of Piano World) our online store for piano and music gifts and accessories, party goods, tuning equipment, piano moving equipment, benches, lamps Caster Cups and more.


Free Shipping on Jansen Artist Piano Benches
New Topics - Multiple Forums
Changing Positions / Moving Hands
by TomInCinci
12/07/16 10:49 AM
Fingering in Bach Invention 13 BWV 784
by pinkfloydhomer
12/07/16 04:01 AM
Stride Piano
by john f
12/07/16 03:54 AM
Pomodoro technique for pianists
by ldiebold
12/07/16 12:48 AM
Don't know what to say
by chasingrainbows
12/06/16 08:48 PM
(ad)
Sheet Music Plus
Sheet Music Plus Featured Sale
Forum Stats
85,798 Registered Members
44 Forums
176,844 Topics
2,576,799 Posts

Most users ever online: 15,252 @ 03/21/10 11:39 PM

Visit our online store for gifts for music lovers

 
Help keep the forums up and running with a donation, any amount is appreciated!
Or by becoming a Subscribing member! Thank-you.
Donate   Subscribe
 
Our Piano Related Classified Ads
|
Dealers | Tuners | Lessons | Movers | Restorations | Pianos For Sale | Sell Your Piano |

Advertise on Piano World
| Subscribe | Piano World | PianoSupplies.com | Advertise on Piano World | Donate | Link to Us | Classifieds |
| |Contact | Privacy | Legal | About Us | Site Map | Free Newsletter | Press Room |


copyright 1997 - 2016 Piano World ® all rights reserved
No part of this site may be reproduced without prior written permission