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Well, I'm obviously not going to promise anything, however let's just see what happens in 2011.  James x
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Hello, after some background discussions with TADutchman I would like to share with you a PDF document collecting all Kawai CA93/CA63 Custom Dual Voice Mode Presets. I will update the document on a regular basis and provide the updates in this thread. I'm aware of the Google Docs document another user posted earlier, but for me it was more convenient to have a proper printout in my hands while sitting at my piano. Looking forward to your feedback either via PM or within this thread. ripe_md Update: Now it's linking to commercial-free box.net. I will use that one also for future updates.
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Thanks for your initiative, ripe_md. This compact presentation format comes in quite handy! 
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C A - 9 3 ......... A X - 7 ...... X B O A R D - 4 9
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for me it was more convenient to have a proper printout in my hands while sitting at my piano. me too! I like your doc, it's very useful to have all settings for fast reading and it have piano and e-piano separated sections: nice job  another tool to enjoy the features of our instrument...
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Hi, for some reason I couldn't download your pdf. The site gave me an error in german when I tried to use a free account... Otherwise, the google docs documents can be printed on 1 page containing all the settings (just use print or "download as pdf" to get a printable pdf). However, it is incomplete. Cédric
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Hello, after some background discussions with TADutchman I would like to share with you a PDF document collecting all Kawai CA93/CA63 Custom Dual Voice Mode Presets. I will update the document on a regular basis and provide the updates in this thread. I'm aware of the Google Docs document another user posted earlier, but for me it was more convenient to have a proper printout in my hands while sitting at my piano. Looking forward to your feedback either via PM or within this thread. ripe_md Back from a few days skiing guys, thanks a lot for the pdf ripe_md! very useful document. I wish you all a great 2011 with lots of CA63/93 presets, love them! Jasper
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BTW A nice trick with visitors: play your favourite piece on the standard grand piano sound and ask them if they like it: they all do (so far). Then play the opening bars of Rach's 2nd Concerto (that's all I can play from this piece btw  ) with the Brutal Bösendorfer patch to make them fall of their chairs.  2. Bösendorfer. Impressive but difficult to play pianissimo with the light touch, not a very subtle patch IMHO, but still nice The BRUTAL BASS BÖSENDORFER is indeed not intended to be subtle in any kind of way, more like blowing everything else out of the water, so let's keep it that way!  3. Shigeru Kawai very wide-ranging, nice and clear piano sound, but again, difficult to play ppp. The SHIGERU KAWAI CONCERT GRAND on the other hand just has to be perfect, it's in the name! Therefore, I've added a preset variation to also accomodate for heavy touch. Just let me know what you think of that: Happy New Year to everybody!  I've waited with sharing this patch until after midnight, otherwise ripe_md would have to directly update the preset list on the day of public release. By the way, please help him (and yourself) by checking for any remaining typos in the preset list, in order to iron them out before the next update. In case you happen to prefer Google Docs, then you could add some of your favourites to Stilgar's list. Talking about good intentions for 2011. SHIGERU KAWAI CONCERT GRAND R2.0 - HEAVY TOUCH EDITION Dual Voice: Concert Grand, volume 7 + Concert Grand, volume 3 1 Basic Settings 1 - 3 Tone control: low 0, mid +1, high 0 2 Virtual Technician 2 - 1 Voicing: dynamic 2 - 2 Damper resonance: 9 2 - 3 String resonance: 5 2 - 4 Key off effect: 5 2 - 5 Touch: heavy 3 Key Settings 3 - 4 Layer dynamics: 9 Reverb: Hall 2 Effect: Delay 2, time 1, depth 5
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...the EX TO THE MAX R1.0   is a really gorgeous sound and goes directly to my favorites Hi Pini, glad you like the Christmas gift! Looking backwards, I really enjoyed working on this 2010 paper together: http://www.attacca.eu/images/settings_CA63_93.pdf Maybe we could think of doing something like that in 2011 again, with a slightly different focus?
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SHIGERU KAWAI CONCERT GRAND R2.0 - HEAVY TOUCH EDITION
Dual Voice: Concert Grand, volume 7 + Concert Grand, volume 3
1 Basic Settings
1 - 3 Tone control: low 0, mid +1, high 0
2 Virtual Technician
2 - 1 Voicing: dynamic
2 - 2 Damper resonance: 9
2 - 3 String resonance: 5
2 - 4 Key off effect: 5
2 - 5 Touch: heavy
3 Key Settings
3 - 4 Layer dynamics: 9
Reverb: Hall 2
Effect: Delay 2, time 1, depth 5 nice one TAD, it really sings with the heavy touch, thanks!
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Talking of singing: what about a convincing acoustic guitar? No pitch bends, but still very expressive picking and strumming, playing open voices with sustain pedal! ACOUSTIC GUITAR WITH BODY R1.0 Dual Voice: Ballad Guitar, volume 7 + Modern Piano, volume 3 1 Basic Settings 1 - 3 Tone control: low +2, mid +4, high +6 2 Virtual Technician 2 - 1 Voicing: dynamic 2 - 3 String resonance: 10 2 - 5 Touch: heavy 3 Key Settings 3 - 3 Layer octave: +1 3 - 4 Layer dynamics: 10 Reverb: Stage Effect: Tremolo, rate 3, depth 1
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ACOUSTIC GUITAR WITH BODY R1.0
I've just tried it, bravo! For sure an improvement on the standard guitar sound, much richer. Guitar sounds are difficult on most DP's. I've tweaked the balance to 2-8 (a bit less piano). If you hit the 6th string (low E) hard, it gives you a nice distorted sound Another useful preset, thank you TAD!
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I've just uploaded my first Youtube video with the Steinway CA93 (so far my favourite) preset. This is how I did it: Not liking the result of the internal USB recording, even in WAV mode, I've used my faithful Zoom H2 behind the Soundboard, wav 44hz/16bit, mic height 20cm below the edge, then Audacity, just normalizing, I've synchronized the sound with the iMovie HD vid. The result is to be judged for yourself..., anyway it comes nowhere near to the real thing live. My playing is a bit rusty as well, having been away from the piano for a long time. I've chosen this Schumann piece because it stays away from extremes (basses and trebles) so the singing quality of the Steinway patch should come out pure. Let me know what you think... Schumann Kinderszenen I intend to upload more with different settings, to compare the dual voice piano presets (I'm kind of addicted to the Fazioli patch as well) , Best regards, Jasper
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Thanks for your video, vabejas! Despite of the obvious H2 recording limitations, your authentic playing style sounds great in combination with the Steinway patch. By the way, I'm curious what the differences would be like if you could also record at the players' position (close to your head)...
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... By the way, I'm curious what the differences would be like if you could also record at the players' position (close to your head)... Thank you TAD, and thanks for the tip, good idea, I'll try your proposed position with the same piece and preset, maybe the result will be less boomy in the basses. I have no experience with recording piano yet, just trying different settings. My classical guitar recordings are much appreciated on youtube btw, even with the Zoom H2! Oops, slightly going off-topic here...
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Here you can find the latest update to the CA93/CA63 list of presets. It includes the latest presets from TADutchman as well as some minor updates. I've added a new column to highlight those settings which are new, moved or updated since the last release. It should make life easier to find the modified presets. Have fun with the presets....
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ripe_md, this is a great overview! Thanks for compiling this!
<~ don't test forever - play and enjoy! ~>
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Thank you Ripe-md!Nice work!
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Good to know that you like the format of the preset list. If you have any comments or suggestions feel free to contact me.
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Great stuff, ripe_md! Let's add some more, first thinking of one of the funkiest pop pianos ever:  DOES BECHSTEIN RING A BELL? R1.0 Dual Voice: Modern Piano, volume 5 + Pop Piano, volume 5 1 Basic Settings 1 - 3 Tone control: low +1, mid -1, high -5 2 Virtual Technician 2 - 1 Voicing: dynamic 2 - 2 Damper resonance: 9 2 - 3 String resonance: 9 2 - 4 Key off effect: 9 2 - 5 Touch: normal 3 Key Settings 3 - 4 Layer dynamics: 9 Reverb: Stage Effect: Delay 3, time 1, depth 2
K A W A I ..... R O L A N D ......... E - M U
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All previous and future versions of the Kawai CA93/CA63 Custom Dual Voice Mode Presets Lists are available under this URL. Please check on a regular basis, as I will update the list as soon as TADutchman shares his newest creations! So it's not longer necessary to make a posting for each update of the list.
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