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Excellent, I'll add the presets link to the very first post of this thread.

Brilliant service!
And thanks TAD for the new Bechstein Pop!

Now, here's a choir organ. Where you will find that big church choir is up to you!


BIG CHOIR ORGAN R1.0 (CA93 only)

Dual Voice: Church Organ, volume 5 + Principal Choir, volume 5

1 Basic Settings
1 - 3 Tone control: low +6, mid +3, high +3

2 Virtual Technician
2 - 1 Voicing: mellow 1
2 - 5 Touch: off

3 Key Settings
3 - 4 Layer dynamics: 7

Reverb: Hall 2

Effects: Delay 2, time 5, depth 10

Hi all, i'm a new ca93 owner from Italy.

I recently swapped my vertical acoustic piano with this CA93, but i'm not very impressed by grand piano sound (maybe i'm too used to acustic sound).

So i'm looking for the best presets for classical music. any suggestions?

Welcome and congratulations, metallox! You came to the right place.
By the way, I see what you mean. I personally never use the standard factory piano setting anymore, at least not without any tweaks...

Let me recommend some selected dual voice presets that you may prefer for performing classical pieces:

* Steinway Grand Devotion R2.1 - Normal Touch Edition CA93
* Shigeru Kawai Concert Grand R2.0 - Heavy Touch Edition
* Take the EX to the Max R1.0 - Heavy(+) Touch
* Warm & Fuzzy Fazioli R2.2
* Warm Baby Medium Grand at Home R1.0

Your feedback is highly appreciated! I'll keep a few acoustic piano presets up my sleeve, in case you're not fully satisfied with at least one of these...

Welcome Metallox,
As a new CA-93 owner as well, I am really interested which of the above settings has your preference, they are all a massive improvement on the standard grand piano sound, thanks to TAD's research.
The Steinway and Fazioli have a warm, more mellow sound and I use them both when playing anything from Mozart to Debussy etc..., Steinway is very complex, with lots of string resonance.
The Shigeru lacks a little bit in body IMHO, but is very nice in the higher register, the EX is a real concert grand! I need to play more with the Warm Baby Medium Grand to form a valid opinion.
I'm sure you will enjoy these presets!
Jasper

Holy ... TAD! This is an amazing boost to the built-in church organ. I'm not much of an organ player, but I think I will download some 'easy' Bach organ sheet music to give this preset the full treatment. The master volume slider needs some serious downgrading though in order to keep my neighbour as friend!

You're not getting personal towards Mr. Shigeru Kawai, right?
I'll have another look, because this remark is of course totally unacceptable for anything bearing his name..

Happy to hear your comments, especially concerning the dynamics. Please note that the sound signature was modelled after a K. Kawai Grand standing in a large living room in Apeldoorn. ...oh no, not my living room!

Allright, here's the update with more body, any feedback is welcome:


SHIGERU KAWAI CONCERT GRAND R2.1 - HEAVY TOUCH EDITION

Dual Voice: Concert Grand, volume 7 + Concert Grand, volume 3

1 Basic Settings
1 - 3 Tone control: low +2, mid +2, high -2

2 Virtual Technician
2 - 1 Voicing: dynamic
2 - 2 Damper resonance: 8
2 - 3 String resonance: 5
2 - 4 Key off effect: 8
2 - 5 Touch: heavy

3 Key Settings
3 - 4 Layer dynamics: 8

Reverb: Hall 2

Effect: Delay 2, time 1, depth 5

Nice update TAD, thanks. It's getting there. I'll keep this one under Reg.3 !

Okay, Let's move on then and do a live take with a pop grand in a large studio room:


BRIGHT POP STUDIO GRAND R1.0

Dual Voice: Pop Piano, volume 2 + Studio Grand, volume 8

1 Basic Settings
1 - 3 Tone control: low -1, mid +2, high 0

2 Virtual Technician
2 - 1 Voicing: dynamic
2 - 2 Damper resonance: 10
2 - 3 String resonance: 10
2 - 4 Key off effect: 10
2 - 5 Touch: normal

3 Key Settings
3 - 4 Layer dynamics: 10

Reverb: Stage

Effect: Delay 2, time 2, depth 2

Cybergene, Mucci, Pinipon, Vabejas & others unite: please check out whether this cool dude is good for your live and/or recording purposes!


AMBIENT STEINWAY EXPERIENCE R1.0

Dual Voice: Mellow Grand, volume 9 + Finger Nylon Gt., volume 1 (CA93 only) + Pick Nylon Gt., volume 1 (CA63/CA93)

1 Basic Settings
1 - 3 Tone control: low +6, mid +2, high +3

2 Virtual Technician
2 - 1 Voicing: dynamic
2 - 2 Damper resonance: 10
2 - 3 String resonance: 10
2 - 4 Key off effect: 5
2 - 5 Touch: normal
2 - 8 Stretch tuning: Wide

3 Key Settings
3 - 3 Layer octave -1
3 - 4 Layer dynamics: 10

Reverb: Hall 2

Effect: Delay 3, time 1, depth 5

let me see...still based on the trusted Steinway Devotion R2.1 with a few tone tweaks, dynamic voicing instead of mellow and delay 3 instead of 2, right?
After a testdrive I'm not certain which one I prefer. It has a wider tonal spectrum for sure, a profound bass, but a little less mellow than the GD Steinway maybe. It's a very nice one TAD, thanks, kind of holds the middle between the Steinway GD and the overwhelming Bösie.
I must say that my personal preference still goes to the mellow, woody sounding piano's like the Steinway GD and the Fazioli when playing classical. These two really make me forget, also because of the action, that I'm playing a DP.

Thanks for your uplifting comments; in the meantime I believe that finally even the Bösendorfer beast has been tamed (at least when you play ppp) and in parallel has gained # sound colours:


BRUTAL BASS BÖSENDORFER R2.2

Dual Voice: Studio Grand, volume 5 + Mellow Grand 2, volume 5

1 Basic Settings
1 - 3 Tone control: low +6, mid +5 (4 for even more control), high +1

2 Virtual Technician
2 - 1 Voicing: dynamic
2 - 2 Damper resonance: 7
2 - 3 String resonance: 7
2 - 4 Key off effect: 10
2 - 5 Touch: normal

3 Key Settings
3 - 4 Layer dynamics: 9

Reverb: Hall 1

Effect: Delay 3, time 1, depth 3

STOP Does this smaller sized organ STOP mean you can keep your neighbour as a friend? STOP


8' PIPE ORGAN R1.0 (CA93 only)

Dual Voice: Diapason, volume 6 + 4' Drawbar , volume 4

1 Basic Settings
1 - 3 Tone control: low +5, mid +4, high -2

2 Virtual Technician
2 - 1 Voicing: mellow 2
2 - 5 Touch: off
2 - 6 Temperament: werckmeister

3 Key Settings
3 - 3 Layer octave: -1
3 - 4 Layer dynamics: 6

Reverb: Hall 1

Effects: Delay 3, time 5, depth 5

Oh yes, it's like a circus lion now, still dangerous, but with the right training, it can be a pussycat as well!
Nice update again, I like it!

I love this new organ, very smooth and deep, indeed! Should be great for organ players to put these two (big church organ and this new pipe) in their presets and switch between them.

Thanks as well for the ultra-speedy update of the setting file, super stuff!

Thanks, and also to ripe_md for his swift list update!

Any fans in da house for electrostatic pick-ups?


AMPED HOHNER PIANET T R1.0

Dual Voice: Classic E-piano, volume 6 + Modern E.P. 3 (CA93 only) + Modern E.P. 2 (CA63/CA93), volume 4

1 Basic Settings
1 - 3 Tone control: low +6, mid +4, high -6

2 Virtual Technician
2 - 1 Voicing: dynamic
2 - 5 Touch: light

3 Key Settings
3 - 3 Layer octave: -1
3 - 4 Layer dynamics: 7

Reverb: Stage

Effects: Tremolo, rate 5, depth 10

Let's use some more fuzzy logic to get those complex but wonderful non-orthogonal CA93/CA63 parameters up and grooving, YEAH!


FUNKY HOHNER CLAVINET D6 R1.0

Dual Voice: Clavi, volume 5 + Classic E-piano, volume 5

1 Basic Settings
1 - 3 Tone control: low +6, mid +2, high -5

2 Virtual Technician
2 - 1 Voicing: dynamic
2 - 5 Touch: light

3 Key Settings
3 - 4 Layer dynamics: 9

Reverb: Stage / Room 2

Effects: Chorus, rate 1, depth 1

Too bad that CA63 owners don't have an octaved harpsichord at their disposal, right? WRONG!!! (...and it's arguably way better than the CA93 single voice version)


OCTOPUSSED HARPSICHORD R1.0

Dual Voice: Harpsichord, volume 6 + Harpsichord, volume 4

1 Basic Settings
1 - 3 Tone control: Bass boost

2 Virtual Technician
2 - 1 Voicing: bright1
2 - 5 Touch: off

3 Key Settings
3 - 3 Layer octave: -1
3 - 4 Layer dynamics: 9

Reverb: Hall 1

Effects: none