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#1788480 - 11/13/11 11:20 PM Re: To Splice or Not to Splice? [Re: rysowers]
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Very impressive James.
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#1788549 - 11/14/11 02:37 AM Re: To Splice or Not to Splice? [Re: James Carney]
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I agree with the others. This is impressive work.

Originally Posted By: James Carney
Although the one thing I don't like is that there is a greater deflection of the wire at the V-bar now, due to the loops, so only time will tell if it holds up.

Making the knot the other way round could have helped. One can see in your knot that the top wire (the new leader) runs over / in front of the loop of the lower wire, but the lower wire runs under / behind the loop of the top wire. If you had changed this around, the lower wire would possibly have had less of a kink at the v-bar. I thought I'd mention it, but I realize that talk is cheap in such a confined space!
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#1788608 - 11/14/11 07:32 AM Re: To Splice or Not to Splice? [Re: rysowers]
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Very good, nice to look at!

Since this is a non-wound string, I would have taken the easier way out. I would have replaced the string, left it appropriately high (depending on what I could mute), and schedule a drop by touch up in a month.
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#1788626 - 11/14/11 08:03 AM Re: To Splice or Not to Splice? [Re: rysowers]
James Carney Offline
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Thanks for the feedback, everyone.

David, mercifully I wasn't sweating bullets because the temp at the piano location was a very nice 64 degrees - just the way I like it...

Mark R, that's a very interesting point you bring up. I'm wondering if it's possible to have that kind of control with the direction of the knot, and if that control can be maintained even after forming the new coil and transferring. It's certainly worth a try...

Jeff, I hear you! If this were a new or valuable piano I would likely have replaced with new wire. Definitely easier. (Although splice repairs mean dealing with just one coil on loop strung pianos, which kind of splits the difference.) However, in this case, the piano is in a commercial recording studio and I was tuning on Saturday for a Sunday session. So it had to be as stable as possible. The "funkiness" and lo-fi character of this particular piano - which they got for free - was to be exploited by the band coming in.
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