"Nor can you adjust the rotation speed or acceleration rate."

I'm surprised. You can do this on MP8ii; assignable to expression pedal or mod wheel, or slow-or-fast as a front panel switch or pedal switch.

It takes some mining in the manual to find this out, and purchase of the exp pedal (not included) if you want to use it that way.

You can switch between slow and fast. I think he means you can't adjust what the speed of "slow" is, what the speed of "fast" is, or the amount of time it takes to transition from one to the other when you make the switch. These are all things that are adjustable on assorted other organ-oriented keyboards.

Yes, that's exactly what I meant. Thanks, anotherscott.

Looking into this more (at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_memory for example), SD cards and SSD drives apparently use cheaper NAND flash memory, which functions essentially as a hard drive replacement; whereas more expensive NOR flash memory is essentially "ROM replacement" rather than "drive replacement" -- the contents can be executed "in place" just as RAM and ROM are, the data does not first have to be copied into "real" RAM to be used in real time. I suspect this is the reason that the flash RAM in the few keyboards that use it seems relatively meager as well as relatively expensive.

For example, the 512 mB flash RAM board for a Yamaha Motif XF sells for $150, a far cry from the slow SD card's 8 gB for $13, or even 16 gB for $80 (the cheapest SSD drive I could find... much faster, but still much slower than RAM, and still accessed as a storage medium rather than as direct memory). You can see even by looking at the Yamaha board that there's much more circuitry there then could fit on an SD card despite the relatively miniscule capacity. It appears to have what I would guess are four 128 mB chips on it. http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-Flash-Board-MOTIF-TYROS4/dp/B0049P23Y8

I know, software based pianos are streaming off storage media in real time. But they also have $500 to $1000 worth of other computer circuitry in the box to make it happen, as well as an underlying operating system that supports it, and even then, it can be glitchy. Basically, if it was as easy as you say to get a huge piano sample into a keyboard for an extra dollar's worth of component, I have a feeling *someone* would have done it. :-)

Yes I am still very happy with the Piano. I did buy a new Yamaha StagePas 300 For my amp. I have started customizing the Rhodes sound and it is killer. In addition I bouth a Yamaha FP7 expression pedal. It really makes the Wah Wah sond work well with Both the Rhodes and the the Clavinet. I have got it set so I can use a contact footswitch control the Leslie effect. I do like the clonewheel organ sounds. the keyboard is great. My ES4 is headed to college next year. So I have no regrets buying the instrument. I also have tweaked the piano sounds and dialed them in more to my taste. So the more I play it the more I like it. The overdrive effect is pretty cool for the "Dirty" Rhodes sound. It is really been worth the money. I still play my Fender Rhodes and I cannot get over how close the two sounds. In ways I really prefer the Kawai Rhodes over ther real thing. This may be the fisrt keyboard I bounght that I cannot find anything to complain about.

About the 3 pedal unit; that must have been a CME GPP3. It has been discontinued for quite a while.

The follow-up looked very promising : GPP-3 V2-Grand Piano Style MIDI Pedal. However I've been trying to find it though many inquiries and throughout the year (2010) , but it's nowhere to be found in any of the listings. Too me it's a classic example of VAPOR-ware. Perhaps it will see the light of day anywhere in the far future, but it doesn't give you much confidence if this is how CME does business.

It happens to more products. For example I feel sorry for the guys who ordered a Kurzweil PC3K8 in the end of 2009 and are still waiting for delivery...

Thanks for the Mail Franky Boy,

Im gonna start a new 'KAWAI MP6 Log.'thresd. Think it would be a good thing if the OP or a moderator could lock this one and someone could then start a new MP10 thread.
Well unless peeps wat to talk here to infinity.............

You can start all the threads you want, puff. Mods usually don't lock a thread unless it goes into a death spiral. A steady rain of dust falls on them; most are buried after awhile and become fossil threads, waiting for thread archeologists of the future to dig them up and write PhD theses on them.

Yeah Im just getting ahead of my self.. all excited about my new bit of technology...great analogy Jeff...just thought like ..my MP6 aint new no more so ... OK ill shut up now an go to bed.

May the Mods be with you.
I used to consider myself one once..back in ...zzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZ

Hi,

After a very long time of looking around for a piano with a good action which can simulate an acoustic piano in a agreeable way I decided to go for a Kawai MP10.
I received the MP10 this day, but there is a huge problem, namely, the piano doesn't produce any sound.
I don't have any monitors yet so I tested it with two different type of headphones. I've read the manual extensively, still no clue.
Now this is my first stage piano, so maybe there is something which I am not aware of?
I plugged in the headphones, set the most left volume slider to 50%, turned on the piano section, set that volume slider to 50%, choosen a piano type and variation, played the keys, but no sound.

If anyone owns a MP10 and has a clue, please let me know.

Now, if I will be able to get sound out of this piano I could tell some more about the action and sounds.
The action is quite heavy, but I can't say much about it without sound, can say one thing though, that is that without sound the action makes a lot of noise (it is more noticable ofcourse) when the keys hit the bottom. This will be less obvious when there is sound, but I am certainly wondering whether this could be irritating in the long run.
Never noticed how much noise the keys of an acoustic makes, usually these sounds work.

Think this will be my first and last Kawai, first there are few dealers, so the availability sucks, and then, it seems, they manage to let this thing pass to the customer.

edit:
It could be the case that the headphone output, is broken, so I also tried the mono output (not the fixed output) and plugged it into my hi-fi installation. I used a stereo jack (I haven't got these large mono jacks),guess this should work on one chan??
Still no sound.

Have you done a factory reset? Try toggling the local button. Maybe also the panic button.

Based on what you described, you should have sound. Like SpanishBudda said, the only thing I can think of is toggling the LOCAL OFF button in the MIDI section. If it's illuminated, there will be no sound.

That's a longshot. I believe it defaults to off with the factory settings.

If that doesn't do it, then probably time to call the dealer.

If you haven't already, it may be worth reading KawaiDon's post on this forum: Link

Sounds like another DOA to me...

The local off button was off indeed by default. Also tried the panic button, still no sound.
The strange thing is that if only for instance the piano section is on, still some buttons on the e.piano and sub section are on. I don't know whether when you turn off or on a whole section the buttons that belong to that sections should all be/go off?

Did try the factory reset, still no sound.

Thanks for the advise.

Anyway, the MIDI does work, so at least something works.
Will be contacting the dealer.

The other e. Piano and sub section lights will stay illuminated as they were when the section was last active. The main button for the section just toggle the section on/off. You can still change parameters within an inactive section, which is probably why the lights stay on.

Sorry to hear about the broken board. The noisy action you mentioned earlier might also be a defect. Mine has a quiet thump when you play with the sound off. If you're getting a click or clack, then there may be a problem with the action.

The noisy action is exactly like wat you hear in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rr-ezfk9FCw

Now that I have sound the noise is less obvious, but it comes more to the foreground on the higher notes, ofcourse the noise get's harder when the key is struck harder.
Since the MP8 on the video has the same noisy action I wonder whether this is something one has to get used of.
I take it you have an MP10 and the keys don't make these noises, or in a lesser extend compared to what you hear on the video?

The sound quality isn't fantastic in the video, and it sounds like he had the volume turned down pretty far.

But even with the volume turned way down on the MP10, I don't hear the key noise anywhere near that loud over the audio. At normal piano volume, I don't hear the keys noise at all.

Also, mine's a lower pitch thump. The best way I can describe it is if I rest my fist across my chest and thump it by just bending at the wrist (and a bit more muffled still). I only approach a Tarzan style chest thumping sound if I bang some two-handed chords at fff.

Another way of describing it is to place a thumb on the casing in front of the keys. And then with a finger on the other hand tap on the thumbnail and then a key. Should be about the same volume.