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Please check on a regular basis, as I will update the list as soon as TADutchman shares his newest creations! So it's not longer necessary to make a posting for each update of the list.
Excellent, I'll add the presets link to the very first post of this thread.
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Please check on a regular basis, as I will update the list as soon as TADutchman shares his newest creations! So it's not longer necessary to make a posting for each update of the list.
Excellent, I'll add the presets link to the very first post of this thread.
Brilliant service! And thanks TAD for the new Bechstein Pop!
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Kawai CA-93
'Music can name the unnameable and communicate the unknowable' (Leonard Bernstein)
TADutchman
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Registered: 03/26/10
Posts: 759
Loc: Apeldoorn, The Netherlands
Welcome and congratulations, metallox! You came to the right place. By the way, I see what you mean. I personally never use the standard factory piano setting anymore, at least not without any tweaks...
Let me recommend some selected dual voice presets that you may prefer for performing classical pieces:
* Steinway Grand Devotion R2.1 - Normal Touch Edition CA93 * Shigeru Kawai Concert Grand R2.0 - Heavy Touch Edition * Take the EX to the Max R1.0 - Heavy(+) Touch * Warm & Fuzzy Fazioli R2.2 * Warm Baby Medium Grand at Home R1.0
Your feedback is highly appreciated! I'll keep a few acoustic piano presets up my sleeve, in case you're not fully satisfied with at least one of these...
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vabejas
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Registered: 12/09/10
Posts: 65
Loc: FRA
Originally Posted By: metallox
Hi all, i'm a new ca93 owner from Italy. ... So i'm looking for the best presets for classical music. any suggestions?
Originally Posted By: TADutchman
.. Let me recommend some selected dual voice presets that you may prefer for performing classical pieces:
* Steinway Grand Devotion R2.1 - Normal Touch Edition CA93 * Shigeru Kawai Concert Grand R2.0 - Heavy Touch Edition * Take the EX to the Max R1.0 - Heavy(+) Touch * Warm & Fuzzy Fazioli R2.2 * Warm Baby Medium Grand at Home R1.0 ...
Welcome Metallox, As a new CA-93 owner as well, I am really interested which of the above settings has your preference, they are all a massive improvement on the standard grand piano sound, thanks to TAD's research. The Steinway and Fazioli have a warm, more mellow sound and I use them both when playing anything from Mozart to Debussy etc..., Steinway is very complex, with lots of string resonance. The Shigeru lacks a little bit in body IMHO, but is very nice in the higher register, the EX is a real concert grand! I need to play more with the Warm Baby Medium Grand to form a valid opinion. I'm sure you will enjoy these presets! Jasper
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Kawai CA-93
'Music can name the unnameable and communicate the unknowable' (Leonard Bernstein)
Holy ... TAD! This is an amazing boost to the built-in church organ. I'm not much of an organ player, but I think I will download some 'easy' Bach organ sheet music to give this preset the full treatment. The master volume slider needs some serious downgrading though in order to keep my neighbour as friend!
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Kawai CA-93
'Music can name the unnameable and communicate the unknowable' (Leonard Bernstein)
TADutchman
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Registered: 03/26/10
Posts: 759
Loc: Apeldoorn, The Netherlands
Originally Posted By: vabejas
The Shigeru lacks a little bit in body IMHO, but is very nice in the higher register
You're not getting personal towards Mr. Shigeru Kawai, right? I'll have another look, because this remark is of course totally unacceptable for anything bearing his name..
Originally Posted By: vabejas
I need to play more with the Warm Baby Medium Grand to form a valid opinion.
Happy to hear your comments, especially concerning the dynamics. Please note that the sound signature was modelled after a K. Kawai Grand standing in a large living room in Apeldoorn. ...oh no, not my living room!
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vabejas
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Registered: 12/09/10
Posts: 65
Loc: FRA
Originally Posted By: TADutchman
Cybergene, Mucci, Pinipon, Vabejas & others unite: please check out whether this cool dude is good for your live and/or recording purposes!
AMBIENT STEINWAY EXPERIENCE R1.0
let me see...still based on the trusted Steinway Devotion R2.1 with a few tone tweaks, dynamic voicing instead of mellow and delay 3 instead of 2, right? After a testdrive I'm not certain which one I prefer. It has a wider tonal spectrum for sure, a profound bass, but a little less mellow than the GD Steinway maybe. It's a very nice one TAD, thanks, kind of holds the middle between the Steinway GD and the overwhelming Bösie. I must say that my personal preference still goes to the mellow, woody sounding piano's like the Steinway GD and the Fazioli when playing classical. These two really make me forget, also because of the action, that I'm playing a DP.
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Kawai CA-93
'Music can name the unnameable and communicate the unknowable' (Leonard Bernstein)
TADutchman
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Registered: 03/26/10
Posts: 759
Loc: Apeldoorn, The Netherlands
Originally Posted By: vabejas
It's a very nice one TAD, thanks, kind of holds the middle between the Steinway GD and the overwhelming Bösie. I must say that my personal preference still goes to the mellow, woody sounding piano's like the Steinway GD and the Fazioli when playing classical. These two really make me forget, also because of the action, that I'm playing a DP.
Thanks for your uplifting comments; in the meantime I believe that finally even the Bösendorfer beast has been tamed (at least when you play ppp) and in parallel has gained # sound colours:
BRUTAL BASS BÖSENDORFER R2.2
Dual Voice: Studio Grand, volume 5 + Mellow Grand 2, volume 5
1 Basic Settings 1 - 3 Tone control: low +6, mid +5 (4 for even more control), high +1
vabejas
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Posts: 65
Loc: FRA
Originally Posted By: TADutchman
[/quote] ... in the meantime I believe that finally even the Bösendorfer beast has been tamed (at least when you play ppp) and in parallel has gained # sound colours:
BRUTAL BASS BÖSENDORFER R2.2
Oh yes, it's like a circus lion now, still dangerous, but with the right training, it can be a pussycat as well! Nice update again, I like it!
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Kawai CA-93
'Music can name the unnameable and communicate the unknowable' (Leonard Bernstein)
vabejas
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Registered: 12/09/10
Posts: 65
Loc: FRA
Originally Posted By: TADutchman
...
8' PIPE ORGAN R1.0 (CA93 only) ...
I love this new organ, very smooth and deep, indeed! Should be great for organ players to put these two (big church organ and this new pipe) in their presets and switch between them.
Thanks as well for the ultra-speedy update of the setting file, super stuff!
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Kawai CA-93
'Music can name the unnameable and communicate the unknowable' (Leonard Bernstein)
TADutchman
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Registered: 03/26/10
Posts: 759
Loc: Apeldoorn, The Netherlands
Too bad that CA63 owners don't have an octaved harpsichord at their disposal, right? WRONG!!! (...and it's arguably way better than the CA93 single voice version)
vabejas
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Registered: 12/09/10
Posts: 65
Loc: FRA
Originally Posted By: TADutchman
Too bad that CA63 owners don't have an octaved clavichord at their disposal, right? WRONG!!! (...and it's arguably way better than the CA93 single voice version)
OCTOPUSSED CLAVICHORD R1.0 ...
How did you get this idea????
Great settings , however I need to give you a quick lecture on these old instruments! The clavichord was the predecessor of the harpsichord. It had a single keyboard and sounded of course very different from the twin-keyboard harpsichord.
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Kawai CA-93
'Music can name the unnameable and communicate the unknowable' (Leonard Bernstein)
TADutchman
500 Post Club Member
Registered: 03/26/10
Posts: 759
Loc: Apeldoorn, The Netherlands
Originally Posted By: vabejas
The clavichord was the predecessor of the harpsichord. It had a single keyboard and sounded of course very different from the twin-keyboard harpsichord.
You're quite right, mixing and blending the name of a clavinet with a harpsichord does not render a clavichord, especially since that voice doesn't even exist in the CA93/C63 soundlist. It does render something else (you'll hear about that one later), but I'd better call it a day for now!
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Registered: 02/21/10
Posts: 68
Loc: Lisbon, Portugal
Hi TAD, since the Bechstein last week you're going with 9 new settings in one single week!!! As someone said before: "Man, you are a machine!!! " Unfortunately, I don't have enough time to try all of them, but I'm impatient to take a time very soon...
Since I've the TAKE EX TO THE MAX heavy touch version in the "autoload" (1-10 User Memory) I like it every time even more: this setting have an incredible playability from pp to ff entire range, very good dynamics and tone colors, enough deep bass, "clean" mid and high tones (it makes me to remember dewdrops rolling out of a petal), no "Yamaha bells" , and you can get "soft mellow" sound in pp, and progressively growing to "soft bright" and "studio-like" sound in f-ff ...
This setting is one of the best setting to me. If I should choose, this setting would be one of my top 3 and it's a very nice christmas gift, thanks TAD once again
Registered: 02/21/10
Posts: 68
Loc: Lisbon, Portugal
Originally Posted By: vabejas
Originally Posted By: TADutchman
... in the meantime I believe that finally even the Bösendorfer beast has been tamed (at least when you play ppp) and in parallel has gained # sound colours:
BRUTAL BASS BÖSENDORFER R2.2
Oh yes, it's like a circus lion now, still dangerous, but with the right training, it can be a pussycat as well! Nice update again, I like it!
I would say the previous versions is not for everyone because the p-pp playability is not the best, indeed. But this setting have a very beautiful sound, and what it is very funny is you can get a nice wooden soundboard resonant effect as more as you play f-ff.
I'm still impatient to play "with" this R2.2 new beast
@TAD, thank you, very nice and fresh sounding patches. But you know what - I still love your original "good old" Steinway patch the most! That's what I play most of the time without headphones. With headphones on I usually just take the original single layer Concert Grand with some additional reverb.
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TADutchman
500 Post Club Member
Registered: 03/26/10
Posts: 759
Loc: Apeldoorn, The Netherlands
Originally Posted By: mucci
@TAD, thank you, very nice and fresh sounding patches. But you know what - I still love your original "good old" Steinway patch the most!
You're welcome! Yes, I remember, that Steinway patch was love at first sight for you. It's nice to see that the huge amount of diversity in sound signatures offered now makes every individual make his/her own personal choices.
By the way, just curious: is the Steinway just too much for your headphones or do you experience a fundamental difference in perception compared to playing live?
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TADutchman
500 Post Club Member
Registered: 03/26/10
Posts: 759
Loc: Apeldoorn, The Netherlands
Originally Posted By: Pinipon
Hi TAD, since the Bechstein last week you're going with 9 new settings in one single week!!! As someone said before: "Man, you are a machine!!! " Unfortunately, I don't have enough time to try all of them, but I'm impatient to take a time very soon...
Since I've the TAKE EX TO THE MAX heavy touch version in the "autoload" (1-10 User Memory) I like it every time even more: this setting have an incredible playability from pp to ff entire range, very good dynamics and tone colors, enough deep bass, "clean" mid and high tones (it makes me to remember dewdrops rolling out of a petal), no "Yamaha bells" , and you can get "soft mellow" sound in pp, and progressively growing to "soft bright" and "studio-like" sound in f-ff ...
This setting is one of the best setting to me. If I should choose, this setting would be one of my top 3 and it's a very nice christmas gift, thanks TAD once again
You're welcome, just take your time to digest all those new and spicy harmonics and report back to us whenever you like.
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TADutchman
500 Post Club Member
Registered: 03/26/10
Posts: 759
Loc: Apeldoorn, The Netherlands
Originally Posted By: vabejas
Originally Posted By: TADutchman
Too bad that CA63 owners don't have an octaved harpsichord at their disposal, right? WRONG!!! (...and it's arguably way better than the CA93 single voice version)
OCTOPUSSED HARPSICHORD R1.0 ...
How did you get this idea????
Great settings
Thanks, I guess it's your 'fault', look what happened (just kidding), and there's more upcoming (not kidding).
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