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re: the black key issue, I tried a real grand briefly, and I thought it felt more difficult than the Casio, but easier than the MP9000. I think that key length issue we have recently discussed might be contributing to this - I am playing near the back of the key, softly and rapidly, and with my weak 4th finger. I am also holding other notes with the same hand, which makes it more difficult. I really noticed the inertia of the grand's keys after playing the Casio. There is no risk of me turning into a concert pianist if I were to play the Casio exclusively I don't think. smile

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My PX 130 arrived yesterday.

In a word, I am thrilled!

I don't have the budget (yet) for something bigger/better/fancier, so this was in itself a big step.

I love the action.

The sound thru the speakers is decent and thru headphones really quite nice. (My wife bought me the headphones 'as a hint')

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What's to say? Knock yourself out. I've been enjoying my Casio AP-45 for three years, and it's still ticking.

Have a ball!


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Hi guys, newbie here, I want to get my first digital piano and budget wise, the px 130 can really do it for me. Problem is, I can get more features with the px330 for $200+ extra,now here is my concern:
1. How far I'll be limited with the USB MIDI on the px130?
2. Can I record a song and transfer it to my pc? and bring it back again?
3. Can I import songs from my pc and play it on the px130? (other than .midi files)

one last thing, px130 can only record 1 song, 2 tracks while px330 can store 5 songs and 16 tracks, will, I didn't get how this works but here's my opinion:
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1 song ( combining maximum of two tracks -two layers played separately)
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5 songs ( combining maximum of 16 tracks - 16 layers played separately, so storing five songs in total with each that can get up to 16 tracks)

Am I right?

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As I understand it, there is a limit on the number of notes only. You have a total of 16 tracks to work with to put your songs together. I think I would just do basic stuff with the on board sequencer and transfer that to computer so you can add other better sounds, effects, etc.

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Originally Posted by MartyOCS
1. How far I'll be limited with the USB MIDI on the px130?


You'll have no problem in connecting your DP to a computer but with only USB I think it's not easy connecting it to another keyboard (unless there is a USB to MIDI adapter, I don't know if this exists)

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2. Can I record a song and transfer it to my pc? and bring it back again?


Yes. You can connect your DP to a computer trough USB in storage mode and it will behave as a disk drive so you can copy, paste files.

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3. Can I import songs from my pc and play it on the px130? (other than .midi files)


I'm not sure about this.

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one last thing, px130 can only record 1 song, 2 tracks while px330 can store 5 songs and 16 tracks, will, I didn't get how this works but here's my opinion:
px130:
1 song ( combining maximum of two tracks -two layers played separately)
px330:
5 songs ( combining maximum of 16 tracks - 16 layers played separately, so storing five songs in total with each that can get up to 16 tracks)

Am I right?


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Originally Posted by MartyOCS
1. How far I'll be limited with the USB MIDI on the px130?

If you're using a computer, not at all. However, if you want to connect the PX130 to another MIDI keyboard (or sound module) without getting a computer involved, you won't be able to do that (or, at least, not without an adapter that costs over $100). There is also a long term compatibility issue. Serial, parallel, SCSI, and other ports have come and gone, but standard MIDI has remained a standard for 30 years. Ten years from now, will computers still have USB? Who knows? But it's a pretty safe bet that there will still be some way to connect standard MIDI.

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thanks guys on your quick response, I guess I'm going with PX330, extra $200 seems worth it for the features.. shall I be aware of something ahead?? power adapter is included,right?

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[THREAD BUMP]

I may as well dump this here:

I decided to have a go on my old Kawai MP9000, after having played my PX-330 exclusively for a very long time. The MP9000 has an early form of Kawai's "premium" style of wooden action (hammers above the keys - not the folded underneath style). The main reason was to see how it went with a particular rapid repeat I was finding challenging on the PX-330, consisting of alternating thumbs on a black key. (possibly bad technique, but that's the way I want to play it). I tried very hard, but almost always, I failed to do the repeat on the Kawai. However, I then had a bit of a noodle round on the Kawai, and to my great surprise, the action did not feel much heavier than the Casio, and it was actually easy and comfortable to play. I really expected to have a lot of trouble, because I thought the Kawai had a much heavier action than the Casio.

I then went back to the Casio, and yes, I could still do this particular repeat much easier. (not 100% reliably though - needs more practise). Inspecting the MIDI, it's not the third sensor that is making it easier - I recorded the repeat for a few goes and none of them had any third-sensor repeats in the MIDI stream.

This is just a tidbit of feedback. I realise it's not fair to compare such an old/used keyboard with a much newer, and less used one.

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Here are the reviews for the updated versions of these digital pianos from the folks at digitalpianocompare:

- Casio PX-150: http://www.digitalpianocompare.co.uk/casio-px-150-digital-piano-review
- Casio PX-350: http://www.digitalpianocompare.co.uk/casio-px-350-digital-piano-review
- Casios PX-730, PX-735 and PX-750: http://www.digitalpianocompare.co.uk/casio-px-730-casio-px-735-casio-px-750-digital-piano-review/

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My PX-330 is in for repairs (the action needs to be replaced in it's entirety - will take 4 weeks for the replacement action to arrive - fortunately it's still under warranty), so I've lugged my 13 year old 73lb Kawai MP9000 back up on the stand.

But, here's a tad more bit of evidence that the Casio action is assisting me in some way - I found another song for which the repeats were simply not happening on the Kawai, when I played in the same way as I played on the Casio. I don't know whether it's the third sensor on the Casio, or whether it's just the lighter action, but it feels like I need to lift my fingers further on the Kawai. Whatever is happening, it's definitely more effort on the Kawai. The repeats aren't super rapid - it's just a finger lifting effort issue, in my opinion. (it's the boom-di-di, boom-di-di bass line of Madona's "Hung Up" - I don't think I have the strength to stamina to play the entire song on either action, mind you - it's just too repetitive)

Greg.

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