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#1632404 - 03/03/11 11:43 AM Yamaha P155 - replace or upgrade?
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Hi everyone - I recently had the chance to help out a family member by "partially gifting" my Yamaha P155 to her. (She gave me what she'd saved so far towards a new one, which was about $500, and I ate the loss to me as a gift to her.)

She's happy, I'm happy, and I have no DP as of right now.

My choices are to either replace my P155 with another one just like it, or spend a fair bit more and perhaps upgrade to something like a Roland FP7F, or perhaps an FP7, DP990, or something along these lines. I liked my P155 just fine - I'm an adult learner and it seemed to work pretty well, especially when I set it up with external speakers or just with good hadphones. I thought the keyboard action was fine, but I read and hear that the PHAIII is definitely better, and that PHAII might be as good or better.

What might you do? I'm not really interested in going to anything less than a P155, and I want to keep the entire outlay between $1200 and $2300. The idea of saving some serious cash and just going with another P155 is appealing, but the gearhead in me is looking up the price chain. My priority is a nice grand piano mode, and to have a DP with decent feel/action, and the other bells/whistles/features are of relatively little importance to me.

Thanks for your thoughts...


Edited by UpNorth (03/03/11 11:47 AM)

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#1632412 - 03/03/11 11:54 AM Re: Yamaha P155 - replace or upgrade? [Re: UpNorth]
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In keeping with the slab style tradition of your old DP it seems like the FP7f would be a good choice. You said you have a pair of external speakers so maybe a Kawai MP6, RD300NX, or Yammy CP50 would be good as well, but they are stage pianos. Do you have a music store in your area with any of the DP's in the $1700 price range that you could try out?

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#1632426 - 03/03/11 12:06 PM Re: Yamaha P155 - replace or upgrade? [Re: KHen]
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No - no options for trying out DP models anywhere near me. Not too sure if I want to get into a stage piano. If money were no object, I'd grab an FP7F immediately. But, money is sort of an issue, although not a completely determining factor. Thanks...

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#1632440 - 03/03/11 12:19 PM Re: Yamaha P155 - replace or upgrade? [Re: UpNorth]
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I'd say stick to your P155. They are really great little home pianos, and since money is an option, and you don't have the ability to test various comparable boards (are there any??), I'd say you're best bet is to go for the P155 again.
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#1632443 - 03/03/11 12:22 PM Re: Yamaha P155 - replace or upgrade? [Re: UpNorth]
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Another slab style DP you could look at would be the Kawai ES6. It is getting a little older and may be getting an update soon, Frankfurt Musikmesse this April would tell, but it's a good DP and worth mentioning.

I think the best Slab style out right now in terms of sound quality would be the Roland FP7f with it's supernatural piano technology.

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#1632520 - 03/03/11 01:52 PM Re: Yamaha P155 - replace or upgrade? [Re: UpNorth]
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Originally Posted By: UpNorth
No - no options for trying out DP models anywhere near me. Not too sure if I want to get into a stage piano. If money were no object, I'd grab an FP7F immediately. But, money is sort of an issue, although not a completely determining factor. Thanks...


I've seen this said before. Where do you live that there are no music stores.

The FP7F is different enough from the P155 that you really need to try it out first. If you absolutely can't get away from the house (I can understand, by bother is disabled and it would be hard for him to go very far) then a safe upgrade is the Yamaha CP50. The keys are close to the P155, the black keys slightly smaller so fatter fingers fit between them and the sound is improved. If you have speakers left over from the old P155 they will work with the CP50.

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#1632550 - 03/03/11 02:22 PM Re: Yamaha P155 - replace or upgrade? [Re: ChrisA]
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Originally Posted By: ChrisA
...

I've seen this said before. Where do you live that there are no music stores.


Happily, a long way away from cities and urban areas. Disabled? Not at all. Maybe 6+ hours drive from stores that stock these DPs.

Thanks for letting me clear that up.

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#1632838 - 03/03/11 08:06 PM Re: Yamaha P155 - replace or upgrade? [Re: UpNorth]
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Originally Posted By: UpNorth

Happily, a long way away from cities and urban areas. Disabled? Not at all. Maybe 6+ hours drive from stores that stock these DPs.


Then a weekend trip to the city would be in order. Spend two days spend doing research before spending $2K seems reasonable. Second idea is to buy three pianos from on-line stores that accept returns. Set all three up in the house then send the two back you like least.

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#1633512 - 03/04/11 04:09 PM Re: Yamaha P155 - replace or upgrade? [Re: ChrisA]
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Originally Posted By: ChrisA
Originally Posted By: UpNorth

Happily, a long way away from cities and urban areas. Disabled? Not at all. Maybe 6+ hours drive from stores that stock these DPs.


Then a weekend trip to the city would be in order. Spend two days spend doing research before spending $2K seems reasonable. Second idea is to buy three pianos from on-line stores that accept returns. Set all three up in the house then send the two back you like least.


This is now becoming annoying. I understand the concept and advantages of playing a piano in person, and that driving to a store, or having them shipped to me, can make this possible.

What next? A reminder for me to drop my drawers next time I go to take a dump?

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#1633557 - 03/04/11 05:10 PM Re: Yamaha P155 - replace or upgrade? [Re: UpNorth]
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Originally Posted By: UpNorth

This is now becoming annoying. I understand the concept and advantages of playing a piano in person, and that driving to a store, or having them shipped to me, can make this possible.

What next? A reminder for me to drop my drawers next time I go to take a dump?


Nah, I'll just recommend my suggestion again...get another P155! smile
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#1633558 - 03/04/11 05:10 PM Re: Yamaha P155 - replace or upgrade? [Re: UpNorth]
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Now now.

Like most people here, I would feel uncomfortable recommending a DP that you buy sight-unseen. There are just too many personal issues involved, it is a musical instrument after all, and we can't read your mind. You at least know what the P155 is.
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#1633578 - 03/04/11 05:23 PM Re: Yamaha P155 - replace or upgrade? [Re: UpNorth]
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Loc: UK
Originally Posted By: UpNorth
Originally Posted By: ChrisA
Originally Posted By: UpNorth

Happily, a long way away from cities and urban areas. Disabled? Not at all. Maybe 6+ hours drive from stores that stock these DPs.


Then a weekend trip to the city would be in order. Spend two days spend doing research before spending $2K seems reasonable. Second idea is to buy three pianos from on-line stores that accept returns. Set all three up in the house then send the two back you like least.


This is now becoming annoying. I understand the concept and advantages of playing a piano in person, and that driving to a store, or having them shipped to me, can make this possible.

What next? A reminder for me to drop my drawers next time I go to take a dump?


You said money was an issue. Take the good advice offered and don't be such a grouch. Otherwise gamble away.

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#1633607 - 03/04/11 05:47 PM Re: Yamaha P155 - replace or upgrade? [Re: spanishbuddha]
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I vote for the FP7F - Unless you really like the thin bright Yamaha sound, with looping and stretching, go for something new and different. The Roland sound is quite a bit mellower than Yammie, but it is much more sophisticated in design. If you are willing to buy it sight unseen, accept it's sound and feel and make it work, it's a good choice.

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#1633655 - 03/04/11 06:44 PM Re: Yamaha P155 - replace or upgrade? [Re: UpNorth]
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Originally Posted By: UpNorth
... I want to keep the entire outlay between $1200 and $2300.

I'm not sure how to interpret your budget. Is that in USD or something else? I.e. are you in the States, Canada, BFE guarding the sand, what?

Originally Posted By: UpNorth
If money were no object, I'd grab an FP7F immediately.

You can get an FP-7F all day long here in the US for $1900 USD delivered. So if you're in the States, it's game over man!

Unless you haven't played an FP-7F. In that case we're back to guessing what you might want and how much you might actually want to pay for it.
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#1633700 - 03/04/11 08:17 PM Re: Yamaha P155 - replace or upgrade? [Re: UpNorth]
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hey, UpYours,

You want some advice?

A)- Take your act over to The Keyboard Corner forum.
You'll fit right in with the preponderance of prix there.

B)- You might be mature enough for a DP like the FP-7F.
Even a P-155-eating FP-4 will get you out of the bush.

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#1633717 - 03/04/11 08:50 PM Re: Yamaha P155 - replace or upgrade? [Re: UpNorth]
Kawai James Offline
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Originally Posted By: dewster
...it's game over man!


One of the best action movies of all time!

James
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#1633838 - 03/05/11 12:06 AM Re: Yamaha P155 - replace or upgrade? [Re: Kawai James]
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Originally Posted By: Kawai James
One of the best action movies of all time!

I saw the original in the theater, but the director's cut is one of the best movies I've ever seen. Seriously outdid everything else in the quadrilogy. IMO 3 killed the franchise, and the DC of it is just more of a bad thing. 4 is a breath of fresh air in comparison.
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#1633872 - 03/05/11 01:00 AM Re: Yamaha P155 - replace or upgrade? [Re: UpNorth]
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I actually rather like the mood and pacing of '3' - it's a real contrast to the second film. If you watch 1, 2 (director's cut), and 3 back-to-back, the final film (4 doesn't count) bookends the trilogy nicely.

I agree with you about the DC/SE version though - the sentry guns part alone is real edge-of-the-seat stuff!

Looks absolutely terrific on Blu-ray too! wink

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#1634011 - 03/05/11 09:23 AM Re: Yamaha P155 - replace or upgrade? [Re: UpNorth]
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Hmmm. I think I owe ChrisA and others here an apology for my less-than-cordial remarks. Having a bad day yesterday was no excuse for being ornery here. This is a nice forum with nice people - I apologize for my comments.

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#1634056 - 03/05/11 11:03 AM Re: Yamaha P155 - replace or upgrade? [Re: UpNorth]
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Outside of a Madonna video or two, I can't get into anything Fincher has ever done.

For me the additional backstory in A2 DC gives the whole thing a different feel.

</ot - sorry!>
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