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#1634588 - 03/06/11 12:49 AM
Problems recording through MIDI.
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Full Member
Registered: 01/18/11
Posts: 25
Loc: Philippines
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I just got a MIDI-USB cable so I could plug my piano to my PC for better sound output and recording, since my cheap keyboard's speakers stink. I downloaded VMPK (Virtual MIDI Piano Keyboard). It plays perfect, but there's a very noticeable delay, like 0.2secs which really throws me off. Afterwards, I downloaded the 2 week trial for Mixcraft 5 . I can configure it so I can get unnoticeable delay, but no matter what the configuration, the playback just feels wrong. At RANDOM times, even if I'm holding the key, the playback of the note suddenly halts. Here are recordings in comparison: VMPK, sounds perfect, but the playback is laggy, although you can't tell from here: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15626407/BaltoVMPK.mp3Mixcraft. I played it the same way, some notes suddenly halt, like at 0:08. Starting at 0:11, all notes get cut short even if I'm holding the keys long. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15626407/BaltoMixcraft.mp3So it's either I have laggy playback, or have a crappy quality. I tried Sibelius demo as well but I get the same resutls as Mixcraft. Tried it with Sequetron. Still the same problem as Mixcraft. edit: Tried it with a lot more programs. It feels like I can only have a single note play at any given time, which explains why notes get cut off. Only VMPK doesn't do this, but it's laggy.
Edited by Lord Akela (03/06/11 03:26 AM)
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#1634674 - 03/06/11 06:00 AM
Re: Problems recording through MIDI.
[Re: Lord Akela]
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Registered: 03/22/09
Posts: 10
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sounds like latency mate, have a look in the settings at things like your computer's buffer size and stuff, i'm not sure about how you use those programs you mentioned, do you press "record" when you play? do you get the same delay when you're not recording? have a look at your ASIO drivers as well
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#1634688 - 03/06/11 06:41 AM
Re: Problems recording through MIDI.
[Re: Lord Akela]
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5000 Post Club Member
Registered: 09/06/07
Posts: 5089
Loc: Hamamatsu, Japan
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Lord Akela, what are the specs of your PC? CPU, memory, HD, soundcard, OS, etc. All of these can influence the latency experienced when using software instruments, so if we can spot a bottleneck in your system, we may be able to recommend some changes.
Cheers, James x
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#1634761 - 03/06/11 10:24 AM
Re: Problems recording through MIDI.
[Re: Lord Akela]
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Registered: 01/18/11
Posts: 25
Loc: Philippines
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Lord Akela, what are the specs of your PC? My computer's specs: AthlonX2 5000+ (2.6GHz) Palit 9600GT Sonic 256MB 2GB Kingston DDR800 640GB SATA Western Digital Caviar Black (top class) Windows 7 Pro 64-bit I doubt it's my computer since I play games fine on it, like Team Fortress 2 on maximum settings. have a look in the settings at things like your computer's buffer size and stuff, i'm not sure about how you use those programs you mentioned, do you press "record" when you play? How do I change the buffer size for the computer itself? I can only change the buffer sizes for individual programs such as Mixcraft, which is how I got rid of the lag for those programs. The problem is that for those programs, I can't play more than one note at a time. Playback in and out of recording is the same. So yeah, it really baffles me why VMPK is the only program that lets me play more than one note at a time, but that thing can't change buffer size.
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#1634777 - 03/06/11 10:53 AM
Re: Problems recording through MIDI.
[Re: Lord Akela]
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Registered: 09/24/09
Posts: 2343
Loc: Florida
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#1635365 - 03/07/11 12:48 AM
Re: Problems recording through MIDI.
[Re: Lord Akela]
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3000 Post Club Member
Registered: 12/28/08
Posts: 3768
Loc: Redondo Beach, California
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Neither of those two MP3 are very good. The built-in sound of most DPs is better. The "free" sampled pianos on my Mac are better. I think what you need is a good software virtual instrument. There are many and some of them have free demo version you can download. You will also need a good external USB or Firewire audio interface box and the low latency audio drivers. I looks like you've surveyed the low-end of the virtual software pianos and found they aren't great. No surprise.
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#1637341 - 03/09/11 11:19 AM
Re: Problems recording through MIDI.
[Re: Lord Akela]
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Junior Member
Registered: 03/09/11
Posts: 3
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Can understand the latency, but notes cutting off sounds odd. Have you got MIDI out from the PC connected back into your piano, causing a loop? If you've got the Sequetron, click 'Diagnostics, Start' then tick the checkboxes to trace MIDI Input and Notes. You should see note on & off events scrolling up as you play - might help with the diagnosis. HTH.
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