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#1635056 - 03/06/11 05:19 PM A newbie doubt about Yamaha P95
Kirikou Offline
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Registered: 11/25/10
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Loc: Spain
Sorry if I ask a silly question.
I've just received my new P95.
The matter is that while grand piano voices sound well, the other ones (e.piano, organs, etc.) seem to my inexperienced ears as if bass notes sounded fainter than medium ones.

I don't know if it's only my perception, if this voices must sound this way or if the piano may be somehow defective.
I'm not able to explain the issue better due to my poor English.

Thank you very much.
Kirikou.


Edited by Kirikou (03/06/11 05:30 PM)

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#1635252 - 03/06/11 09:47 PM Re: A newbie doubt about Yamaha P95 [Re: Kirikou]
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Registered: 12/28/08
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Originally Posted By: Kirikou
Sorry if I ask a silly question.
I've just received my new P95.
The matter is that while grand piano voices sound well, the other ones (e.piano, organs, etc.) seem to my inexperienced ears as if bass notes sounded fainter than medium ones.

I don't know if it's only my perception, if this voices must sound this way or if the piano may be somehow defective.
I'm not able to explain the issue better due to my poor English.

Thank you very much.
Kirikou.


The small built-in speakers do not reproduce bass very well. The effect is there for the grand piano too but the piano is rich in overtones and the ear does not notice the lack of bass on the piano sound.

If you get external speakers (or good headphones) that can reproduce bass the problem goes away. The ability of a speaker to reproduce bass depends on it's physical size. You can't put large speakers in a portable instrument.

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#1636412 - 03/08/11 09:01 AM Re: A newbie doubt about Yamaha P95 [Re: ChrisA]
Kirikou Offline
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Thanks ChrisA.
I know what you say about speakers.
I've tried with pretty decent headphones and the issue improves a little, but the left most keys, in some voices, remain very weak compared to the medium notes.
Anyone owning a P95 could help, please?
I've purchased my DP online and it's not easy for me to try another P95 to compare with mine.

Thank you very much.
Kirikou.

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#1636414 - 03/08/11 09:04 AM Re: A newbie doubt about Yamaha P95 [Re: Kirikou]
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Kirikou, perhaps you could record (from the headphone jack) an MP3 - I'm sure we'll soon be able to tell you if there's a problem with your P95.

Cheers,
James
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#1636468 - 03/08/11 10:28 AM Re: A newbie doubt about Yamaha P95 [Re: Kirikou]
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Kirikou: I think you're asking:
Is the P95's weak in the bass range?
Or are my headphones weak in that range?

As KJ suggests, if you can record the piano from its headphone output, someone here can listen to the recording to see if the piano is weak in the bass.

And, if you can identify the make/model of headphones, someone might be able to tell you if that model has weak bass.

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#1636678 - 03/08/11 02:23 PM Re: A newbie doubt about Yamaha P95 [Re: MacMacMac]
Kirikou Offline
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Thanks James and Mac. I'll try to do so.
Mac, the question is not if P95 is weak in the bass range, as grand piano voices sound well. But if the other voices (i.e. pipe organ) have poor samples in that range or the piano doesn't work properly or, no less probable, it's all OK and the problem is me thinking it had to sound in a way it actually must not sound.
By the way, I have Sony MDR CD1000 and Shure E4c headphones.
Thank you very much,
Kirikou.

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#1636869 - 03/08/11 07:09 PM Re: A newbie doubt about Yamaha P95 [Re: Kirikou]
Kawai James Online   content
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I'd say that's probably normal.

James
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#1637065 - 03/09/11 12:03 AM Re: A newbie doubt about Yamaha P95 [Re: Kirikou]
Ovidiu M Offline
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Registered: 10/24/10
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Originally Posted By: Kirikou
Thanks James and Mac. I'll try to do so.
Mac, the question is not if P95 is weak in the bass range, as grand piano voices sound well. But if the other voices (i.e. pipe organ) have poor samples in that range or the piano doesn't work properly or, no less probable, it's all OK and the problem is me thinking it had to sound in a way it actually must not sound.
By the way, I have Sony MDR CD1000 and Shure E4c headphones.
Thank you very much,
Kirikou.


Just saying....no way the bass of a pipe organ in a 6 watts stereo system will sound even close to the real thing... Perhaps to much expectations from it...

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#1637653 - 03/09/11 06:11 PM Re: A newbie doubt about Yamaha P95 [Re: Ovidiu M]
Kirikou Offline
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Registered: 11/25/10
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Originally Posted By: Ovidiu M


Just saying....no way the bass of a pipe organ in a 6 watts stereo system will sound even close to the real thing... Perhaps to much expectations from it...


I agree. But it's not the point. Electric_piano_1 voice is even worse (pipe organ was just an example).
Besides, I don't expect it sounds close to the real thing but close to itself in the medium range (respecting the volume, I mean).

Well, anyway, the question is solved.
After connecting the piano to my hifi system, bass have noticeably improved, as ChrisA said. Sorry I haven't been able to test this before (I hadn't the proper cable). By the way, Electric_Piano_1 voice remains sounding very weird in the bass range, but it doesn't matter a lot.

Thank you all for your help.
Kirikou.

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