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#1641627 - 03/15/11 04:55 PM Re: Private Messages - censored? [Re: Pogorelich.]
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There's another word that got twisted to have a "bad" meaning, bluekeys - prick (afaik poking someone/something with a sharp instrument enough to leave a mark). shocked In my post above I mentioned that's something I really wish wouldn't happen. Words like gay (happy), pussy (a cat), Dick (nickname for Richard), cock (male chicken, also some other birds) also have different meanings that as far as I'm aware are perfectly acceptable in general all-ages conversation, shown in the parentheses after each word. Also the word piss appears twice in the King James Bible, hell and damn (or various forms of it) appear more times than I think I could count, and cock is in there too (one place being where Jesus told Peter the cock would not crow till Peter had denied Jesus); due to my respect for the Bible none of those words are offensive to me, especially the way they're used there. (I'm not even offended by passages in some of the prophets that use sexual imagery, or some graphic descriptions of battle scenes and other things, but for the sake of the youngsters here I'm not going to narrow down any further where they are or what they say at this time, unless requested.)

P.S. I hope due to the way the words are used, my post is not offensive. It is not intended to be - I was just trying to point out that those words have not always had bad uses. (IMO, if they always have been bad, they would not have been put in the Bible, even if said translation including one of the 7 dirty words was originally translated around 1611 AD.)


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#1641651 - 03/15/11 05:26 PM Re: Private Messages - censored? [Re: Pogorelich.]
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Okay, I understand public forums being "censored". But private messages, really? That's so unfair. I have friends here that I would like to talk to freely and vent with - and I can't! Noody sees these messages anyway, what's the problem?

Freedom of speech...?


Here is a perspective you may not have considered.

When you are here, it is not dissimilar to being at someone's house. There are rules to which you must abide. If the owner does not approve of how you behave, you may be ejected and your "welcome" status will be revoked. The rules are designed for the benefit of the entire community. Not everyone will agree with them, but they must be followed to retain your welcome status.

Freedome of speech? Not exactly. You cannot say anything you want, claiming freedom of speech -- just the same as you can't yell "I have a bomb on an airplane." That's the purpose of the profanity filters. They are a gentle reminder that your are crossing the line that the forum administrator have drawn (i.e. the "rules").

You erroneously think a PM is to communicate privately amongst friends and while this is true most of the time, a PM can also be sent to a total stranger threatening to cut their throat. Of course that is an extreme example, but the rules that apply to the public area also apply to the private area as well. I believe this software design is well thought out and the fact that the filters apply to public and private areas is very intentional, for the reasons I mentioned above.

It's okay if you want to tell me to lighten up. Just wanted to share a perspective you may not yet have considered. smile

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#1641657 - 03/15/11 05:31 PM Re: Private Messages - censored? [Re: Akira]
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Originally Posted By: Akira
Freedome of speech? Not exactly. You cannot say anything you want, claiming freedom of speech -- just the same as you can't yell "I have a bomb on an airplane." That's the purpose of the profanity filters. They are a gentle reminder that your are crossing the line that the forum administrator have drawn (i.e. the "rules").


That got me thinking... I understand laptop computers are allowed as carry-ons on aircraft, but... I wonder how well it would go over if several people that were (maybe NOT) sitting together (if there was a way they could wirelessly network - maybe WiFi? some airlines have that, I think) started playing Counter-Strike: Source together, using speakers instead of headphones, and communicating over in-game voice chat? wink
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#1641714 - 03/15/11 06:34 PM Re: Private Messages - censored? [Re: Pogorelich.]
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Do lighten up, will ya?
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