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First pass, without repeating any tones: 5.4 hz 16th percentile  2nd pass, with repetitions: 0.375 hz 97.5th percentile.  Anyway, when tuning a piano I hear to beats so I do little use of pitch discrimination. Sometimes in the high treble I use to pluck strings to hear which is higher or lower. But most of the time I go by discriminating if the beat rate increased or decreased.
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It would be interesting to see if scores would change based on a higher or lower tone. I wonder if our ears are more discriminating in the upper octaves of the piano or more in the midrange.
It would also be interesting to have a test to see how sensitive the ear is to a detuned unison.
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This was fun - I also got into that same range as many others here: Pass 0.75, fail 0.375.
I did one pass with headphones, then with monitor speakers and I found the latter harder to take.
And yes, Ryan, I also think it would be interesting if there where other pitch ranges too.
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0.525 and I don't understand the pass/fail postings either.
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I took this test last year, using monitor speakers.
I think that the guys who post "fail" and "pass" frequencies here, didn't proceed to the results page. They only used the pitch difference that they could mostly recognize, and the one that they mostly couldn't. But, once you're done with the test, you can proceed to a results page. The software calculates, from your exact numbers of "fails" and "passes", your individual threshold.
Without repeating test notes, I came to about 1 to 2 Hz. With repeats, I came to 0.3 Hz.
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Sort of reminds me of when I was learning to tune. My teacher detuned one string of a unison a bit and another a bit more. Then he muted different strings and asked me if the unison was in tune or not. We only did this once and for just a few minutes.
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Thanks for the links to the tone test. Neat.
I was unreliable at the .09 hz level, and ended up with a score of .2 Hz in the final score.
But in tuning we tuners do much better than this. I want to do the test with both tones sounding at once, then put them in tune to find out which was sharp or flat. Easy!
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