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#1641539 - 03/15/11 02:05 PM New March 2011 Yamaha U1 price?
dp69 Offline
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I was wondering if the price of $5800.00 USD for a new 2011 Yamaha U1 in polish ebony out the door (including tax and delivery) and two tuning in the Bay Area, CA a great deal?? Can I go lower?? I heard people have paid $5500 out the door?? Is this true?? If so, which store, please...

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#1641554 - 03/15/11 02:33 PM Re: New March 2011 Yamaha U1 price? [Re: dp69]
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Originally Posted By: dp69
Can I go lower?? I heard people have paid $5500 out the door?? Is this true?? If so, which store, please...


Most likely the one going out of business.......
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#1641558 - 03/15/11 02:44 PM Re: New March 2011 Yamaha U1 price? [Re: dp69]
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dp69,

Six K is fairly typical in south bay. Some times higher or lower depending on wind velocity and direction, and various astrological readings . . .


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#1641625 - 03/15/11 04:53 PM Re: New March 2011 Yamaha U1 price? [Re: dp69]
RonaldSteinway Offline
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It is normal price. Anything below 6K for U1 is good.

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#1641682 - 03/15/11 06:04 PM Re: New March 2011 Yamaha U1 price? [Re: RonaldSteinway]
Rod Verhnjak Offline
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WOW your Yamaha U1 prices are cheap in your area. Here they are way higher.
Sorry for my smug remark in my first reply. blush
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#1641771 - 03/15/11 07:52 PM Re: New March 2011 Yamaha U1 price? [Re: dp69]
dp69 Offline
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Thanks for all your replies. I will be closing my deal very soon. Is there anything negative about the Yamaha U1 that I should know about??

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#1641830 - 03/15/11 09:42 PM Re: New March 2011 Yamaha U1 price? [Re: dp69]
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The price sounds "impossibly" low. It's a great piano with the bright signature Yamaha sound that millions love. No negatives unless you dislike bright pianos. I assume that is not the case.
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#1641858 - 03/15/11 10:46 PM Re: New March 2011 Yamaha U1 price? [Re: TX-Dennis]
RonaldSteinway Offline
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Originally Posted By: TX-Dennis
The price sounds "impossibly" low. It's a great piano with the bright signature Yamaha sound that millions love. No negatives unless you dislike bright pianos. I assume that is not the case.


Yamaha U1 in CA is such a commodity, like selling peanut.
The buyers there are usually from certain ethnicity and they are so well informed about the price, therefore, the dealers do not have too much room for negotiation. If the dealers do not take the normal price there, they will lose the business to other dealers. In other parts of the country, the price is not that well known so that it is easier for dealers to make more profit.

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#1641859 - 03/15/11 10:51 PM Re: New March 2011 Yamaha U1 price? [Re: dp69]
RonaldSteinway Offline
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The new Yamaha U1 is not bright like in the past.
I tried two of them in Nov, they were so lovely.

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#1641907 - 03/15/11 11:51 PM Re: New March 2011 Yamaha U1 price? [Re: RonaldSteinway]
Les Koltvedt Offline
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Originally Posted By: RonaldSteinway
The new Yamaha U1 is not bright like in the past.
I tried two of them in Nov, they were so lovely.


I agree, we have two in the store and they sound great.
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#1647564 - 03/25/11 01:25 AM Re: New March 2011 Yamaha U1 price? [Re: dp69]
summer2 Offline
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Registered: 03/22/11
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Hi,
I am also looking for a Yamaha U1 (NEW) in the Bay Area, do you mind telling me which store or who that you are dealing with that offer you $5800 out the door.. Thanks

Lovetoplaypiano in san jose

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#1647565 - 03/25/11 01:25 AM Re: New March 2011 Yamaha U1 price? [Re: dp69]
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#1647894 - 03/25/11 03:17 PM Re: New March 2011 Yamaha U1 price? [Re: summer2]
master88er Offline
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Rather than worrying about paying the absolute lowest price, and making sure you paid lower than anybody in the history of the piano - why don't you try to buy the best piano at a given budget?

Have you tried playing other pianos? I'll bet not! As a suggestion, why don't you take the new edition of the Piano Book (pianobuyer.com) and go listen to all the pianos that are listed as comparable to the U1. If you do that, I am sure you can find a comparable piano for a lower price than the U1. Or is it simply the name YAMAHA that you are looking for?

If that's the case, then why don't you get 50 of your friends together and make the guy an offer like others on this forum have intimated they have done. For 50, you probably can buy the piano for less than wholesale.


Edited by master88er (03/25/11 03:19 PM)
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#1648174 - 03/26/11 04:00 AM Re: New March 2011 Yamaha U1 price? [Re: dp69]
summer2 Offline
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Have you tried playing other pianos? I'll bet not!
If that's the case, then why don't you get 50 of your friends together and make the guy an offer like others on this forum have intimated they have done. For 50, you probably can buy the piano for less than wholesale

I have no intend to pay the absolute lowest price in the history of piano.
As you can see from other comments, $6k is a normal price in CA.
I did check out other pianos, but I like yamaha U1.
I don't understand why are you making this comment and suggest me to do a 50 people group purchase.

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#1651157 - 03/30/11 04:52 PM Re: New March 2011 Yamaha U1 price? [Re: summer2]
Piano Parent Offline
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6k for Yamaha U1 sounds like fabulous price. Looks like West Coast has better prices. I am in PA and happened to visit a local store the other day and the sticker price for U1 was 9,999.

Can anyone in PA/NJ/DE share info on what the street price might be?

Thanks

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#1651282 - 03/30/11 08:30 PM Re: New March 2011 Yamaha U1 price? [Re: dp69]
KeepItInC Offline
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Loc: Southeast
Seems to me like the original poster is trolling a ficticious price to stir up the water .. get a few people to say "Yes, that's what it should sell for" then go beat the dealer up with it.
So glad I'm out of the biz.
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#1651541 - 03/31/11 09:31 AM Re: New March 2011 Yamaha U1 price? [Re: dp69]
ssyahb Offline
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Registered: 02/21/11
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I am amused by some of you that think buying/selling pianos should be some sacred rite, and should not be just as competitive as any other sale/purchase.
It is somewhat like the discussion of whether amatuer players should try to tune their own piano.

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#1651634 - 03/31/11 11:34 AM Re: New March 2011 Yamaha U1 price? [Re: ssyahb]
Mike Carr Offline
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Buying a piano is business. No different than buying cars, stocks, or real estate. Buyers should treat the transaction as business, with due care taken at all turns of the purchase. While the many nice and honest dealers who pose post on piano world would like to be your friend for life, the reality is that they are in business as well . . .

Anything a buyer can use to beat the seller into submission is fair game, just as any sales tricks the piano dealer uses to lull the buyer into submission and close the deal . . .

When the clueless piano shopper walks into a dealership, the person coming at them with the grip and grin smile, lime-green sansabelts, shiny white loafers, dusting cracker crumbs off a yellow tie is the enemy, a highly motivated sales-pro, and should be treated accordingly . . .

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#1651698 - 03/31/11 12:59 PM Re: New March 2011 Yamaha U1 price? [Re: Les Koltvedt]
Roy123 Offline
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Loc: Massachusetts
Originally Posted By: Les Koltvedt
Originally Posted By: RonaldSteinway
The new Yamaha U1 is not bright like in the past.
I tried two of them in Nov, they were so lovely.


I agree, we have two in the store and they sound great.


Hmmm--I just wonder how they will sound after a year or two. Fighting brightness in a Yamaha can be frustrating.

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#1651894 - 03/31/11 05:08 PM Re: New March 2011 Yamaha U1 price? [Re: Roy123]
RonaldSteinway Offline
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Originally Posted By: Roy123
Originally Posted By: Les Koltvedt
Originally Posted By: RonaldSteinway
The new Yamaha U1 is not bright like in the past.
I tried two of them in Nov, they were so lovely.


I agree, we have two in the store and they sound great.


Hmmm--I just wonder how they will sound after a year or two. Fighting brightness in a Yamaha can be frustrating.


I will not be able to tell you, because one of the pianos is played only one a week, and the other one is played by a little boy. Therefore, it is not a good test. I also wonder after a year or two how these pianos sound. I wish the two pianos sound the same after two years, but I doubt it.

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#1651907 - 03/31/11 05:26 PM Re: New March 2011 Yamaha U1 price? [Re: RonaldSteinway]
Kurtmen Offline
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Loc: San Mateo, CA
Quote:
was wondering if the price of $5800.00 USD for a new 2011 Yamaha U1 in polish ebony out the door (including tax and delivery) and two tuning in the Bay Area, CA a great deal?? Can I go lower?? I heard people have paid $5500 out the door?? Is this true?? If so, which store, please...


I'm sorry for challenging the poster but this is not accurate.
This poster is just fishing for information by throwing a price that was not given by the dealer.
The authorized Yamaha dealer in San Jose does NOT sell the U1 for $5,800.00
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#1651916 - 03/31/11 05:43 PM Re: New March 2011 Yamaha U1 price? [Re: dp69]
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I'm sorry for challenging the poster but this is not accurate.
This poster is just fishing for information by throwing a price that was not given by the dealer.
The authorized Yamaha dealer in San Jose does NOT sell the U1 for $5,800.00


In this case, OP is doing a great disservice to those sincerely shopping for best piano at best price.

Plus putting in shock those who had paid much more for same piano before. Not nice feeling...

To resolve this, I would immediately buy the U1 for stated price and post/demonstrate this find right here for proof!

Congratulatory notes to swiftly follow after...

Norbert thumb


Edited by Norbert (03/31/11 05:49 PM)
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#1651920 - 03/31/11 05:50 PM Re: New March 2011 Yamaha U1 price? [Re: Kurtmen]
dp69 Offline
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Loc: San Jose, CA
Wanted to update everyone on my Yamaha U1 purchase. Finalized the deal at $5800.00 out the door as mentioned before. Already took delivery of the piano and happy to say that we LOVE it!! The kids love playing on their new piano and we are happy to see them play. The Yamaha U1 sounds awesome!! Great price and great service, A+.

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#1651934 - 03/31/11 06:08 PM Re: New March 2011 Yamaha U1 price? [Re: dp69]
gnuboi Offline
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Congrats! Was this a group buy? Just curious.

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#1651984 - 03/31/11 07:35 PM Re: New March 2011 Yamaha U1 price? [Re: dp69]
Les Koltvedt Offline
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It's picture time now!!!
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#1652009 - 03/31/11 08:25 PM Re: New March 2011 Yamaha U1 price? [Re: dp69]
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Sure!
14 minutes after I posted; abruptly appears the OP saying I purchased the piano.
Interesting!
I continue challenging the credibility of this poster.
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#1652344 - 04/01/11 09:20 AM Re: New March 2011 Yamaha U1 price? [Re: Les Koltvedt]
KeepItInC Offline
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Originally Posted By: Les Koltvedt
It's picture time now!!!


I agree ... but not a picture of the piano .. how about the sales .. , oh never mind, that will be #% as well ... I also continue to challenge the credibility of this poster.


Edited by KeepItInC (04/01/11 10:14 AM)
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#1652410 - 04/01/11 10:36 AM Re: New March 2011 Yamaha U1 price? [Re: Kurtmen]
Mike Carr Offline
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Originally Posted By: Kurtmen
Quote:
was wondering if the price of $5800.00 USD for a new 2011 Yamaha U1 in polish ebony out the door (including tax and delivery) and two tuning in the Bay Area, CA a great deal?? Can I go lower?? I heard people have paid $5500 out the door?? Is this true?? If so, which store, please...


I'm sorry for challenging the poster but this is not accurate.
This poster is just fishing for information by throwing a price that was not given by the dealer.
The authorized Yamaha dealer in San Jose does NOT sell the U1 for $5,800.00


I don't know, Kurtmen, when a Kawai dealer starts telling us what the price of a Yamaha won't be, folks might get the impression, who knows, that there's collusion or price fixing going on . . . and why would anyone believe what one of your competitors told you in the first place? (Or have you been shopping for a U1 your own self?)

Anyway, db69 didn't say where he bought the U1 . . . Maybe thirty miles north-east of you he found one's been sitting on the floor for a while . . .

No dealer is beholden to a price quoted on a chat room and the more you seemingly jump up and down demanding proof the more it might give the impression that you're the one that's trying to manipulate prices . . .

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#1652494 - 04/01/11 12:03 PM Re: New March 2011 Yamaha U1 price? [Re: Mike Carr]
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Originally Posted By: Mike Carr
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I don't know, Kurtmen, when a Kawai dealer starts telling us what the price of a Yamaha won't be, folks might get the impression, who knows, that there's collusion or price fixing going on . . . and why would anyone believe what one of your competitors told you in the first place? (Or have you been shopping for a U1 your own self?)

Anyway, db69 didn't say where he bought the U1 . . . Maybe thirty miles north-east of you he found one's been sitting on the floor for a while . . .

No dealer is beholden to a price quoted on a chat room and the more you seemingly jump up and down demanding proof the more it might give the impression that you're the one that's trying to manipulate prices . . .

Mie


I don't know why a competitive dealer's knowledge of price would be any more supect than the word of a non-industry non-insider who writes:

"Six K is fairly typical in south bay. Some times higher or lower depending on wind velocity and direction, and various astrological readings . . ."

I mean, are you present at the point of sale of most new Yamaha U1 transactions in the south bay area? Do you bring your anemometer and astrological charts with you? laugh Your blanket statement lacks credibility coming from your stated non-insider perch.

Your 'one sitting on the floor for a while' explanation seems plausible, but the OP claims it's a fresh 2011 manufacture. Actually, the OP specifies the brand, model, year of birth, and price. (Such a kind service for the readership here! thumb ) Who knows? Maybe the OP took in Fresno Piano's closing sale. Maybe his shopping cart was right behind yours and Kurtmen's in the checkout line. Is Fresno 30 miles away or more?

The potential for mischief is great in these [hello/goodbye] [I'm just looking/I bought] inquiries on PM. You can damage Yamaha retailers and Kawai retailers with the same stone since many price-first shoppers are amenable to either brand. "Look, honey! We can get a U1 for just a bit more than that K3 that Kurtmen showed us. Let's check it out."

Maybe Kurtmen's antennae are picking up false signals, but I'd say there's a reasonable chance looking at the OP's entries here that Kuretmen's finely-tuned antennae are detecting something bogus. I'm glad he has the guts to ask the OP to verify.
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#1652509 - 04/01/11 12:29 PM Re: New March 2011 Yamaha U1 price? [Re: turandot]
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Now it takes guts to harass a new poster? Maybe you can put Kurtmen in for a medal . . .

The prices I heard recently on my great bay area piano shopping tour gave me the impression that 6k was doable . . . my impression was warehouses were not exactly empty of this particular model . . . it is not an unreasonable price by any stretch of the imagination . . .

If low prices quotes an a chat room, whether true or false, give the shopper an edge or an implied edge over the piano retailer or makes the retailer sweat or work a little harder for someone's business or makes the shopper consider other brands and proposals, all the better . . .

And Norbert calling for transparency from a new poster, now that is rich . . .


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